flush/harvest question

kali kid greenthumb

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WOW you really can't read and since you posted a picture with the strain hunters this is from their website they seem to think keeping a EC @.9 and 1.1 before harvest hmmm that doesn't sound like flushing??

In hydroponic mediums (from rock-wool to pebbles to coco fiber) the flushing process is easier to implement, because there is a higher degree of drainage. The texture of hydroponic medium favors flushing, and it is also more necessary than in earth.
When flushing hydroponic medium, it is very important to be exact with the values of the flushing solution. EC, temperature and quantity are very important factors. The EC of the flushing solution must be high enough for the salts to bind with the solution, but not as high as to form more salts. The ideal values are between 0.9 and 1.1.

http://forums.strainhunters.com/site/index.php/index.html/_/articles/grow-articles/francos-tricks-on-flushing-the-medium-r44

This was a answer to a question asked on the Canna website :

ANSER: No, bring the pH up a bit to 5.6, then DO NOT water coco with plain water, it wipes out the buffer and along with your lower pH ranges forces the availability of potassium upwards which is probably where the burn is coming from. So only water with nutrients all the time.
SOURCE CANNA WEBSITE
http://www.cannagardening.com/faq

Even the "great" CANNA coco clearly say do not flush and since your from Coloroado I know you heard of the Dude Grow show they have a guy with a Masters in agriculture speak about flushing with molasses is all you really need because the microbes will do the flushing for you in a sense. Cleary everyone chiming in is saying flushing is irrelevant
 

thenotsoesoteric

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I live in Colorado weed is legal here, I ask the dispensaries that have the best fire buds and they flush, they must not know how to grow too then even tho they are raking in millions and grow in 30,000 square foot warehouses?? Oh yeah you novices on the internet know more about growing then them. They invested millions have horticultural degrees but you guys know more because of a rollitup forum post I forgot...what idiots. I am personal friends with some of the best growers in Colorado I even have met some of the best breeders in the world but then again they all must be wrong.
You're awesome bro! Name drop it like I give two shits. Like you're the only mofo in a meddie/legal state and of course dispensaries are going to say they flush, because hippy ass trendsters want to hear that shit. Do some research yourself instead of asking the "pro", who is making money off you.
 

chuck estevez

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WOW you really can't read and since you posted a picture with the strain hunters this is from their website they seem to think keeping a EC @.9 and 1.1 before harvest hmmm that doesn't sound like flushing??

In hydroponic mediums (from rock-wool to pebbles to coco fiber) the flushing process is easier to implement, because there is a higher degree of drainage. The texture of hydroponic medium favors flushing, and it is also more necessary than in earth.
When flushing hydroponic medium, it is very important to be exact with the values of the flushing solution. EC, temperature and quantity are very important factors. The EC of the flushing solution must be high enough for the salts to bind with the solution, but not as high as to form more salts. The ideal values are between 0.9 and 1.1.

http://forums.strainhunters.com/site/index.php/index.html/_/articles/grow-articles/francos-tricks-on-flushing-the-medium-r44

This was a answer to a question asked on the Canna website :

ANSER: No, bring the pH up a bit to 5.6, then DO NOT water coco with plain water, it wipes out the buffer and along with your lower pH ranges forces the availability of potassium upwards which is probably where the burn is coming from. So only water with nutrients all the time.
SOURCE CANNA WEBSITE
http://www.cannagardening.com/faq

Even the "great" CANNA coco clearly say do not flush and since your from Coloroado I know you heard of the Dude Grow show they have a guy with a Masters in agriculture speak about flushing with molasses is all you really need because the microbes will do the flushing for you in a sense. Cleary everyone chiming in is saying flushing is irrelevant
hes over on the other thread trying to argue his hippy ways
 

kali kid greenthumb

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You're awesome bro! Name drop it like I give two shits. Like you're the only mofo in a meddie/legal state and of course dispensaries are going to say they flush, because hippy ass trendsters want to hear that shit. Do some research yourself instead of asking the "pro", who is making money off you.
Exactly!!!
Thats the same reason his grow store convinces him to buy florakleen
 

kali kid greenthumb

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Yea your right bro im going to the hydro store now and buy florakleen and I'm going to flush my plants so I can lose some smell and weight .Thanks you really helped!!

Im done with this bro keep smoking your weed that hasn't reached its full potential because you flush!
 

thenotsoesoteric

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How does forcing the plant to starve in its most productive budding phase eliminate "chemicals?" The plant will not have any unusually high amounts of trace elements if you keep your ppm/EC at a proper level. Plants always start to yellow and slow down whenever I would flush, which is not good at point where the plant needs those nutrients.

Besides name one other plant product that farmers flush before harvest, because I've looked and have yet to find one farmer of anything besides weed that even talks about, let alone actually, flush their plants. Even during my biology classes, yes Virginia some people on the interweb did go to college too, there was never any talk about flushing anything besides an over fertilized plant or other toxicities but not typical salts. I even asked a couple of my professors on several occasions and they basically said, "How does starving a healthy plant make sense?" And I'm sure one of my prof. knew why I was asking about flushing by the way he chuckled. So yeah, idiots.

I wasn't trying to attack your one idea with my original comment, just stating I used to believe flushing had a positive effect but it doesn't. While you assume us to be idiots, you're the one making himself look dumb. Cheers.
 

kali kid greenthumb

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What do you mean fully developed? Are you talking about the amount of trich production?
Trichome Types

Trichomes grow in numerous shapes and sizes on many types of plants. The cannabis plant has developed three main types (from NationMaster Encyclopedia):

Bulbous: This type is the smallest (15 to 30 micrometers). From one to four cells make up the ‘foot’ and ‘stalk’, and one to four cells make up the ‘head’ of the gland. Head cells secrete a resin, presumably cannabinoids, and related compounds that accumulate between the head cells and the cuticle. When the gland matures, a nipple-like protrusion may form on the membrane from the pressure of accumulating resin. The bulbous glands are found scattered about the surfaces of the aboveground plant parts. [Pictured below.]



Capitate-Sessile: The second type of gland is larger (25 to 100 micrometers) and more numerous than the bulbous glands. They are called capitate, which means having a globular-shaped head. On immature plants, the heads lie flush, appearing not to have a stalk and are called capitate sessile. They have a stalk that is one cell high, although it may not be visible beneath the globular head. The head is composed of usually eight, but up to 16 cells, that form a convex rosette. These cells secrete cannabinoids and related compounds that accumulate between the rosette and its outer membrane. This gives it a spherical shape.

Capitate-Stalked: Cannabinoids are most abundant in the capitate-stalked glands, which consists of a tier of secretory disc cells subtending a large non-cellular secretory cavity. During flowering, the capitate glands that appear on the newly formed plant parts take on a third form. Some of the glands are raised to a height of 150 to 500 micrometres when their stalks elongate. These capitate-stalked glands appear during flowering and form their densest cover on the female flower bracts [specialized leaves that cover the seeds]. They are also highly concentrated on the small leaves that accompany the flowers. The male flowers have some stalked glands, but they are smaller and less concentrated than on the female. (2)
 

shishkaboy

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^^^^This I know. I am asking what you mean by "not fully developed" because in most pics I cant see actual trich heads. Even in person I cant see the trich heads unless they are magnified. In your picture of the GSC I cant see heads. But it was used as a reference for developed trichs? What do you mean developed?
Please I am asking for your own words, not a cut and paste.
@Yodaweed your shit looks top shelf bruh, I would smoke yours first.
 

kali kid greenthumb

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^^^^This I know. I am asking what you mean by "not fully developed" because in most pics I cant see actual trich heads. Even in person I cant see the trich heads unless they are magnified. In your picture of the GSC I cant see heads. But it was used as a reference for developed trichs? What do you mean developed?
Please I am asking for your own words, not a cut and paste.
@Yodaweed your shit looks top shelf bruh, I would smoke yours first.
Meaning that it seems like the trichomes where harvested during the Capitate-Sessile stage instead of the of the Capitate-Stalked stage thus being not fully developed. Of course we can't see trichome heads from the naked eye but we all love buds with plenty of frost and if you see frost like my referenced picture then I think its safe to assume that the trichomes have reached the Capitate-stalked stage. I couldn't see frost until he had a close up pictures then with a 100x microscope you can see right away I have frost and its not even trimmed.
 
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