Flushed but now I'm N- help?

Lower leaves die because:

A: Some type of damage has occurred in the root zone and the plant is using these leaves to make up the difference.

B: These lower leaves aren't getting enough light to sustain a healthy growth.

C: Something was put in the plant pot that is not good.

D: Poor drainage and/or root bound.

E: Insufficient watering or over watering.

F: Clones do this...no matter what, as there lower leaves were used in the cloning process.

I'm sure there are many more. When a person uses a peat moss vermiculite mix the ph of the watering/fertilizer mix should be 5.8-6ph. Use a liquid fertilizer. Cut the fertilizer mix at 1/6 per gallon of water as recommended for outside on the fertilizer bottle/container. Water every watering with this solution until you see run off. Be sure the plant pot does not sit in stagnant water. Drain to waste. It is OK to cut in with some straight ph 6 water for a watering when you suspect too much fertilizer. Get a $5Can hygrometer and stick it in the soil of the plant pot. This will give you some idea on when to water if you are uncertain.

Thanks for that info. I am not seeing much improvement these last few days and the yellowing of leaves is moving up the plant. I'm concerned about root damage and not really sure how to check that out.

PotatoBug said:

Nutrient Tests, and PH meters are essential tools. Not just for "Newbies"

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It's pretty hard to go without a ph tester of some sort. But once you know it all the writing should be on the wall...somewhere I can go with out all that other test stuff by using rules of thumb...much the same as biasing a transistor

I have a ph tester

It's a kind of fun learning process but it's always something new to me for now. I started new seedlings exactly as I started these except I avoided a transplant and started them in 3 gallon pots instead of 6" pots like the others. Now they are nute burned, maybe because more soil = more nutes? It's a blast lol.

Harvester315 said:

Thanks for that info. I am not seeing much improvement these last few days and the yellowing of leaves is moving up the plant. I'm concerned about root damage and not really sure how to check that out.

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You may have to transplant into some new soil if there is root damage due to contamination. Contamination effects all parts of the plant. If so, is better to water more often with less water until the root zone has recovered after the transplant. So whatever you use for a watering divide it up through out that watering day and add about a third more so the roots get a constant supply of moisture and airing until she's well again.

I only concern myself with upper growth problems as it is not unusual to lose a few lower fans until you got everything happening. Lower leaf problems are a tweaking thing. I prune the moms before all the leaves die in the center of the hedge. I know which leaves are gonna die on the moms because they aren't getting enough light to sustain a proper growth. It's best to get them while they're still a bit green as they can create bug problems if left to clump up in the hedge.

I'll certainly pluck those lowers. But these are autos and I'm terrified to transplant them a second time, they barely made it thru the first.

Blue lab or nothing...

pinner420 said:

Blue lab or nothing...

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Is that because they cost so much and you hate me? Lol. Options are endless, got something in mind for my soil grow?

Ahh happiness is never second guessing your gear. "A craftsman is known by the sharpness of his tools"

I reckon I'll throw that on my shopping list that I pick at as the funds appear.

So an update on my plants...not doing so well. The roots through the drainage holes are dry and stringy. Both plants were very dry as I had planned. I watered one plant and left the other to test I suppose (I left the one that still had a very little moisture) if the first plant picks up at all I'll water the other and hope to see them make it, if not I may call it and see what the next ones do. I do enjoy the learning process but boy would that be disappointing

You shouldn't be terrified of up canning put them in a big pot and let it ride. I would look into some compost tea as you can't screw up with that.

Update:

Both plants were dry. I watered one last night and left the other as a test. The watered one perked up slightly so I watered the other this morning. Hopefully after their dark cycle they both feel better.

Alright. So watered the other one this morning and after a 4 hour dark cycle they have both perked up. Definitely following some of the advice from you guys, thanks for saving my plants.

Bought a couple cheap hygrometers just to help out my heavy watering hand. Watering straight for a while and then maybe 25% strength after I feel they are safe. You guys have all been a great help.

I'll try to keep my journal updated if you have any interest in following this grow. Looking forward to my next grow more so now that I'm learning from my mistakes. But hey that's what these first few grows are for, I'm all for making these mistakes early.

Hey dude just thought I'd tag in on this as on my first grow too, I'm using canna professional soil from local grow shop, pictures attached, my lady's are 30 days from seed 10 day into switch, I've not added a single nute to them as they get enough from the soil, stop panicking and being so loving, 1st 2 weeks of my grow I was prob in my grow room 20 30 times a day, if not more, looking and poking and checking, I even repotted 2 days ago, yes I'm in flower, no stress and the stretch of theses jack herer are explosive, I understand you're worry, I've now chilled a bit and just let them do there thing, it's a weed, it will grow, read up about the strain you're growing and go from there, just my opinion, I can't advice on what to give or what not to, and sure listen to the valuable info some I say SOME of theses guys tell you, but at the end of the day it's you're grow, use Google aswell to check what some dude tells you on here!! I'm sure most the time there right, but you take the wrong advice it's you're grow that suffers not there's!!! It's not a rant of any kind I've learned so much from this forum, my opinion it's the best one out there and not even bothered joining other!! Bong on lady's!!

*BUDS said:

You have a couple of bottom leaves dying and your running multiple threads on the issue . Come back when you really have a problem.

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I concur on that to.

They will shed a leaf or two for various reasons. Mainly if it doesn't serve a purpose.

I noticed when I guerilla grow that my lower leaves get yellow and fade out. Its because the under growth blocks light.

Plants know when a leaf doesn't serve a purpose and will shed it.