FLUSHING before harvest... BS or not?

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thumper60

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[QUOTE="Dr. Who, post: 12405770, member: 378146let me get this straight u were raided by feds last week now u have nothing better to do than this.i just don't get it.:wall:




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GhostBud420

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Damn RIU!! back at it again with that flush bs!!! Had to copy a post i made a while back in a different thread... got no response from it.. maybe ill get one here.

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The plants themselves need nutrients to grow/repair. The nutrients are taken in through the roots as ions in the medium's water. To my understanding these ions or nutrients, are not converted into glucose or starch until photosynthesis happens in the chloroplast. Which means that at any given time a plants stalk has nutrient ions inside.. nitrogen, potassium, phosphorous plus all the macronutrients. It was mentioned way earlier in this thread that nutrients are converted into glucose/starches mostly in the roots. But this is not true as the conversion of nutrients into glucose/starches happens in the chloroplast. Which is primarily located in the leafs. Glucose is used regularly for the growth/repair of the plant. Starches are ultimately stored in the chloroplast as granules. The plant can access these starches when needed.
So now lets talk about the goals of flushing.. the theory or myth as you call it.
The goals when I flush is to

1. Remove excess salts in the medium. Which without a doubt I think everyone can agree that its useful just for this specific reason. Lets not get into a debate about how people should feed their plants. This is a whole different subject from flushing in my opinion.

2. Remove excess nutrient ions in the plants system. (Which does include the flower.)
When you cut a plant down that has been fed recently with nutrient solution and the soil is still somewhat damp. There are nutrient ions within the plant. This means that at some point after the initial cutting of either the whole plant or a branch, photosynthesis stops all together leaving these ions trapped inside or near the chloroplast before or during conversion into glucose/starches.

3. To get the plant to cannibalize itself. This goes hand in hand with the removal of nutrient ions. Once the ions are depleted the plant will begin to use the starches located primarily in the leafs/chloroplast. Whos to say whether the plant is converting new glucose or using the more readily available starches is better? And if you are certain which is better please explain in full detail why.

I understand the argument that plants should be fed until the last day to maximize growth/yield.
But my argument is that the starches will provide enough energy for the plant during the last 10 days of the plants life. In fact it may even be healthier for the plant to use those starches that have been getting stored up since day 1. In some cases it may even provide an explosion in bud growth depending on how fast the starches are being used up.
Having said that.. There are many instances where this exact outcome has happened during my flushes. "
 

Ask Limpy

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Damn RIU!! back at it again with that flush bs!!! Had to copy a post i made a while back in a different thread... got no response from it.. maybe ill get one here.

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The plants themselves need nutrients to grow/repair. The nutrients are taken in through the roots as ions in the medium's water. To my understanding these ions or nutrients, are not converted into glucose or starch until photosynthesis happens in the chloroplast. Which means that at any given time a plants stalk has nutrient ions inside.. nitrogen, potassium, phosphorous plus all the macronutrients. It was mentioned way earlier in this thread that nutrients are converted into glucose/starches mostly in the roots. But this is not true as the conversion of nutrients into glucose/starches happens in the chloroplast. Which is primarily located in the leafs. Glucose is used regularly for the growth/repair of the plant. Starches are ultimately stored in the chloroplast as granules. The plant can access these starches when needed.
So now lets talk about the goals of flushing.. the theory or myth as you call it.
The goals when I flush is to

1. Remove excess salts in the medium. Which without a doubt I think everyone can agree that its useful just for this specific reason. Lets not get into a debate about how people should feed their plants. This is a whole different subject from flushing in my opinion.

2. Remove excess nutrient ions in the plants system. (Which does include the flower.)
When you cut a plant down that has been fed recently with nutrient solution and the soil is still somewhat damp. There are nutrient ions within the plant. This means that at some point after the initial cutting of either the whole plant or a branch, photosynthesis stops all together leaving these ions trapped inside or near the chloroplast before or during conversion into glucose/starches.

3. To get the plant to cannibalize itself. This goes hand in hand with the removal of nutrient ions. Once the ions are depleted the plant will begin to use the starches located primarily in the leafs/chloroplast. Whos to say whether the plant is converting new glucose or using the more readily available starches is better? And if you are certain which is better please explain in full detail why.

I understand the argument that plants should be fed until the last day to maximize growth/yield.
But my argument is that the starches will provide enough energy for the plant during the last 10 days of the plants life. In fact it may even be healthier for the plant to use those starches that have been getting stored up since day 1. In some cases it may even provide an explosion in bud growth depending on how fast the starches are being used up.
Having said that.. There are many instances where this exact outcome has happened during my flushes. "
Finally someone that understands fucking grade nine science, and yes my nugs swell hard the last 10 days while the plant is just getting water, cheers !
 
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