Flushing with sugar

zem

zem

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Hi, i was looking into flushing products like clearex and flora clean, and it seems that they are made up of glucose and sucrose, and those are useful in promoting bacterial growth for soil and also have some chemical properties that break down salt buildup and help flushing the medium. Although plants are not know to uptake them directly, some people recommend using them for the flush and claim they aid in flushing and replace harsh chemicals with sweetness. I would like to discuss the use of sugars particularly in flushing hydroponic grows, any experience or knowledge about that would be good, thanks
 
Indacouch

Indacouch

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Flushing as in putting 3 times the amount of clean water through a pot compared to the pots volume is worthless and only kills baby rhinos in Africa .........I'm sure you've heard of growers using molasses in there grows especially towards the end ....the reason for this is not to make bud taste any different or make it magically become more frosty overnight .....I use molasses for the sole purpose of feeding the microbes in my soil ...and as far as flushing I just taper off the food toward the end and water with nothing but water with some runoff the last few times before chop .....hope this helps good luck
 
OldMedUser

OldMedUser

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I never flush either. Just feed RO water the last couple weeks in my soilless grows and taper off my ppm in DWC the last 3 weeks.

It's the drying and curing that makes or breaks the taste and smoke-ability of your crop.

How do you flush a plant grown in the earth outside? Those flushing agents are just a money grabbing scam in my mind.

I also use molasses in my soilless/soil grows to feed the microherd and it seems to help. Only organic unsulfured blackstrap molasses tho.

:peace:
 
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churchhaze

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claypipe69

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When I was growing outdoors we used to just before harvest we would let the plants dry out to almost wilting an water each plant with 5 gal water an 1 cup raw sugar mix. cut around about a foot out from stem. once they are standing proud again. Pull em out shake off all the dirt an wash root ball in sugar water an wrap roots in wet fabric hang in the dark airy place to dry an cure always got a smooth smoke,,,, on any strain this works :leaf::peace::leaf:happy gardening
 
2layz2p

2layz2p

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If your running organics there is no need to flush, There is nothing to flush, However when I run anything composed of salts, I run those nutrients all the way to the end of the plants life cycle, Then cut the branch's off and put them in a bucket of RO water as if you were to put roses in a vase, same thing. It flush's them faster and In my opinion, more thoroughly, When your ash's burn a nice gray color they have been flushed properly.
 
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Dr.Nick Riviera

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in soil, there is nothing to flush, In hydro, it may be needed to "rinse' the roots of built up salts. but i would do that about half way thru, not at the end. and i'm not going to get into the whole mol-asses debate, leave the kitchen ingredients in the kitchen.
 
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StormyHaze

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2layz2p said:
If your running organics there is no need to flush, There is nothing to flush, However when I run anything composed of salts, I run those nutrients all the way to the end of the plants life cycle, Then cut the branch's off and put them in a bucket of RO water as if you were to put roses in a vase, same thing. It flush's them faster and In my opinion, more thoroughly, When your ash's burn a nice gray color they have been flushed properly.
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so your saying your ashes are more of a lighter grey because of that technique u use>>? how much water would i place it in? is this for just hydro growers? thnx
 
ruwtz

ruwtz

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churchhaze said:
First off, I don't think there's a purpose to flushing... however....

The purpose of the sugar in clearex is to maintain an isotonic osmotic gradient . There is a blog on scienceinhydroponics about this exact subject. (the guy who made hydrobuddy).

Here it is.

http://scienceinhydroponics.com/2010/09/making-isotonic-solutions-for-draining-preparing-your-own-and-better-clearex.html

This is nice to know, but not very useful for growing weed.
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Great info, thanks for sharing! Might well give this a trial. I've appreciated samples of Clearex and Drip Clean previously but not enough to buy the stuff.
 
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Budzbuddha

Budzbuddha

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Indacouch said:
Flushing as in putting 3 times the amount of clean water through a pot compared to the pots volume is worthless and only kills baby rhinos in Africa .........I'm sure you've heard of growers using molasses in there grows especially towards the end ....the reason for this is not to make bud taste any different or make it magically become more frosty overnight .....I use molasses for the sole purpose of feeding the microbes in my soil ...and as far as flushing I just taper off the food toward the end and water with nothing but water with some runoff the last few times before chop .....hope this helps good luck
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Baby rhinos ? .... *crying
 
esh dov ets

esh dov ets

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zem said:
Hi, i was looking into flushing products like clearex and flora clean, and it seems that they are made up of glucose and sucrose, and those are useful in promoting bacterial growth for soil and also have some chemical properties that break down salt buildup and help flushing the medium. Although plants are not know to uptake them directly, some people recommend using them for the flush and claim they aid in flushing and replace harsh chemicals with sweetness. I would like to discuss the use of sugars particularly in flushing hydroponic grows, any experience or knowledge about that would be good, thanks
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Flushing takes water. Those pruducts are just sugar water.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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they add sugar to stop the solution from being isotonic.....which kind of seems self defeating. in an isotonic solution, there is less dissolved solids than in your plants roots, and the solids will actually migrate out into the medium to balance the solution. thats all the sugar is for, to stop leaching from the roots....which is what the product is for......which doesn't do anything to the buds....
 
Vthippy74

Vthippy74

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OldMedUser said:
I never flush either. Just feed RO water the last couple weeks in my soilless grows and taper off my ppm in DWC the last 3 weeks.

It's the drying and curing that makes or breaks the taste and smoke-ability of your crop.

How do you flush a plant grown in the earth outside? Those flushing agents are just a money grabbing scam in my mind.

I also use molasses in my soilless/soil grows to feed the microherd and it seems to help. Only organic unsulfured blackstrap molasses tho.

:peace:
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I have been using real maple syrup any thaughts? Actually used only maple sap to water the plants in veg and it worked great. The ph of the sap comes out just about perfect naturally.
Did it just to see after a little research it looked like it would work and it did.
 
OldMedUser

OldMedUser

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The sugars in any supplement are made to feed the micro-herd so they can turn organic matter into the salts that your plants need to grow.

Real maple syrup is likely as good as $50/L carbo load stuff flogged by many nute vendors. I like unsulfered blackstrap molasses myself tho I feed hydro nutes so it's more like a gesture than a real additive.

Don't see much difference in soilless but it doesn't seem to hurt so why not eh.

I wouldn't use it for hydro tho.

:peace:
 
Miyagismokes

Miyagismokes

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Vthippy74 said:
I have been using real maple syrup any thaughts? Actually used only maple sap to water the plants in veg and it worked great. The ph of the sap comes out just about perfect naturally.
Did it just to see after a little research it looked like it would work and it did.
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Neat, but for the price of a pint of maple syrup, I can buy a couple gallons of feed molasses
 
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