Flushing

Xs121

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Flushing has its own uses, depending on grower grow situation there might be a need to flush at late bloom. For instance, soil that is still Nitrogen rich, you might need to flush that out from the soil. Salt build-up in inert medium...same problem with soil, need that out from the medium. Same in hydro.

The goal of flushing is to remove excess nutrient from the medium at late bloom. If the grower have done its feeding correctly from the start then there's no need for flushing.

One thing that anti-flushing people are right about, is that....flushing doesn't remove elements(nutrients) from the plant.

Flushing and feeding plant with just ph water at the last week or 2 are two different thing. Feeding it with just water is not flushing, its purpose is to let the plant consume/cannibalize whatever movable element(nutrient) within the plant, specifically Nitrogen and Magnesium to get rid of chlorophyll

Hope this explain it and end the debate between flushing and not to flush
 

NanoGadget

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Very nice thanx for all the help fellas....my triches are still a bit glassy no leaves has faded either but the pistils are almost all orange now and yes the plant must have went through stress because she started flowering at 4 inches tall it is 10 inches now so I'm kinda disappointed in these genetics compared to my purple's that are 4 weeks old and 13 inches tall already..I'm just hoping to get a quarter or so of decent smoking bud so I don't have to buy a sachos next week
Just keep learning and keep growing. Try to really pay attention to all the successes and failures and learn from them all.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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I flush 3x the size of my pot. The first time. Then 3 or 4 days later I flush again until run off. I also only use half strength nutes. I keep that up for at least 2 weeks and never can taste nutes
have you ever "tasted" nutes? put a drop in water and tasted it? then how would you know what they "taste" like in a bud?
anything you taste in a bud isn't excess nutrient....it's poor drying and curing. period. learn the procedure. real farmers use it to clean a contaminated plot of land. because it does nothing, absolutely nothing, to a plant. ever. anywhere. no matter what you say to defend it, you're wrong, and any botany text book will tell you so...any real farmer will tell you so....greenhouses that produce tons of produce, miles of flowers, will all tell you so....
ok, start telling me how i'm wrong now, even though you're wrong, and i'm right.......and you can NEVER prove otherwise....
 

ANC

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Markets are weird. When I've had to lat shit go faster than I like.
To the point, I wouldn't use it myself. I've had rave reviews.
I just don't get it.
 

vtim802

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ive gotten alot of ahitty imported weed, my thought is the people who are growing for the black market are mostly fucktard foreigns who dont give a flying F what the bud is like.

they grow it like a tomato, as soon as they see some orange hairs and ANY trichs, no matter how cloudy or clear (MOSTLY CLEAR) they chop it down and send it over.

if it tastes like shit, or smells like mexi cali merch, its garbage. why did the old mexi cali merch taste like ass? anyone figure that out?
 

xtsho

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Flushing has its own uses, depending on grower grow situation there might be a need to flush at late bloom. For instance, soil that is still Nitrogen rich, you might need to flush that out from the soil. Salt build-up in inert medium...same problem with soil, need that out from the medium. Same in hydro.

The goal of flushing is to remove excess nutrient from the medium at late bloom. If the grower have done its feeding correctly from the start then there's no need for flushing.

One thing that anti-flushing people are right about, is that....flushing doesn't remove elements(nutrients) from the plant.

Flushing and feeding plant with just ph water at the last week or 2 are two different thing. Feeding it with just water is not flushing, its purpose is to let the plant consume/cannibalize whatever movable element(nutrient) within the plant, specifically Nitrogen and Magnesium to get rid of chlorophyll

Hope this explain it and end the debate between flushing and not to flush
There is a use for flushing. Specifically if someone has way over fertilized. I had a friend that dumped a bunch of Alaska fish basically undiluted on his plants. They claim it won't burn plants so he thought he could just pour it on straight from the container undiluted. They were in big pots outdoors and the tips were shriveling up and dying. I told him to take a garden hose to his plants and flush them out. But that was necessary and probably the only time I've recommended flushing. It did save his plants but his yield was crap after that.
 

vtim802

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Markets are weird. When I've had to lat shit go faster than I like.
To the point, I wouldn't use it myself. I've had rave reviews.
I just don't get it.
yeah all the pot i get IMO sucks shit, it hardly gets me high but people where i love cant get enough of it, im growing for my own personal use, if i dont know what went into it, i dont want it anymore.

its 2018 and there are so many money grubbing dirtbags out there nowadays that will sell you anything if they make money off if it.

people have no ethics or standards anymore, especially now that its turning legal everywhere.

lotta fuktards want to put a seed into dirt, grow 100lbs in two grows and convert cannabis to money regardless the quality or consequence.

screw that, i only want quality, quantity of garbage is for the idiots of the world.

which i see plenty of them, people who smoke weed just to smoke. ive been seeing flowers for years that are premature garbage flowers.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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There is a use for flushing. Specifically if someone has way over fertilized. I had a friend that dumped a bunch of Alaska fish basically undiluted on his plants. They claim it won't burn plants so he thought he could just pour it on straight from the container undiluted. They were in big pots outdoors and the tips were shriveling up and dying. I told him to take a garden hose to his plants and flush them out. But that was necessary and probably the only time I've recommended flushing. It did save his plants but his yield was crap after that.
yes. that was necessary....and he wasn't trying flush his plants...he was trying to flush (leach) his medium...
 

xtsho

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yes. that was necessary....and he wasn't trying flush his plants...he was trying to flush (leach) his medium...
The worst thing about it was when I asked him why he put anything on his plants his answer was "I had to do something". His plants were beautiful up until that point and needed absolutely nothing more than water and sunshine which they were getting. Some people just can't leave well enough alone. That "the more I dump on my plants the better" mentality that comes from lack of knowledge ruins more crops than anything. The nutrient companies and all their predatory marketing practices contribute significantly to bad grows.
 

Lordhooha

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The worst thing about it was when I asked him why he put anything on his plants his answer was "I had to do something". His plants were beautiful up until that point and needed absolutely nothing more than water and sunshine which they were getting. Some people just can't leave well enough alone. That "the more I dump on my plants the better" mentality that comes from lack of knowledge ruins more crops than anything. The nutrient companies and all their predatory marketing practices contribute significantly to bad grows.
Lol some people can’t leave well enough alone. Most guy and gals I’ve ran across think if theyre not feeding watering or jacking with their plants they’re not doing something right.
 

youraveragehorticulturist

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Help me understand bros!

Nutrients are like salt water that get into my plants roots through osmosis. Like the salt water crosses into the less dense, less salty water inside my plants tissues. If I over fertilize, there is too much saltiness absorbed by my plants, through osmosis.

If my plant is too salty, can't I pull those salts out with fresh water around the root zone? by like osmosis in reverse?
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Help me understand bros!

Nutrients are like salt water that get into my plants roots through osmosis. Like the salt water crosses into the less dense, less salty water inside my plants tissues. If I over fertilize, there is too much saltiness absorbed by my plants, through osmosis.

If my plant is too salty, can't I pull those salts out with fresh water around the root zone? by like osmosis in reverse?
no....the salts carry the nutrient ions, which the roots break loose and absorb. they don't absorb the carrier salts...the salts DO remain in your medium, and can damage your roots, which is why it's a good idea to water till you get a little run off every second or third time you water
 

xtsho

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Help me understand bros!

Nutrients are like salt water that get into my plants roots through osmosis. Like the salt water crosses into the less dense, less salty water inside my plants tissues. If I over fertilize, there is too much saltiness absorbed by my plants, through osmosis.

If my plant is too salty, can't I pull those salts out with fresh water around the root zone? by like osmosis in reverse?
It doesn't work that way.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

Well-Known Member
Help me understand bros!

Nutrients are like salt water that get into my plants roots through osmosis. Like the salt water crosses into the less dense, less salty water inside my plants tissues. If I over fertilize, there is too much saltiness absorbed by my plants, through osmosis.

If my plant is too salty, can't I pull those salts out with fresh water around the root zone? by like osmosis in reverse?
you can pull the nutrients out of your roots doing that, if you set up an isotonic condition in your medium, where you've washed it clear of nutrients. the weaker solution will draw nutrients back out of your roots, but that's not a good thing. the roots won't draw "excess" nutrients out of the rest of your plant, they'll just slowly wither and die.....unless you correct the balance in your medium.
 

Fullscan19

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Entering week 9 in 2 days here. Just started flushing. I don’t do anything crazy. I just give plain old ass water to the plant until it comes out the bottom, suck up with shop vac. And repeat.

Last two days I use no water, let her dry out, in the dark
 
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