For All The CFL Non-Believers ! AK48 With 85W ONLY !

BlackBuddha said:

Wow, now I have a member with about 800 posts who calls me a liar.....

Ok, let's reply to you point by point :

- My 85W CFL bulb is showing yellow light, I don't even know the difference with blue, red, orange or whatever for any bulb. This is only my 2nd grow.

- My 250 HPS has been in its box for a while now, I only used it once for my first grow but I couldn't continue with it because it was producing too much heat and it was not possible to use it for a stealth grow.
PLUS, I would have to plug it with the ballast which is a pain the ass to me.
By the way, do you really think that I would put a 250W HPS so close to the plant without it dying ??

- I attribute the success to its environment because if you read the whole thing, I said that I started the plant in a small space in my room (my desk actually) and I had problems with the heat. THEN, I moved it to my friend's house where the plant had a closet to itself (and some clothes as you can see on the picture) for the flowering phase. The plant got bigger everyday and the buds have been swelling rapidly, so I am pretty sure that the plant truely enjoyed that.

- I took the description of the bulb from the store's website where I bought it. If you want me to take a picture with mine, no problem, just ask I'll do it before the weekend. I just gotta go to my friend's apartment to get it.

I knew that I would meet people who wouldn't agree with the thread and the facts that I have given.
Please don't try not to demonstrate something that you got wrong man. If you have more "theories", just let me know and I'll answer it.

Keep doubting CFLs at the end of the day the result is on this thread.

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First off...What does the number of posts I have made have to do with anything?

Yes, a 250 Watt HPS can be placed up to 6 inches away from the plant without
problems, even without an aircooled reflector.

So 2 months at your house before moving to your friends is "Starting"??????
That is TWO months of shitty environment before it is able to thrive at your friends.

So basically this is your friends grow, not yours.. he should really be answering
the questions around here....

How about any information you have throughout the grow, there is none, you
nor he kept a journal, nor did either of you take any pics.

I could lie and say the pic I posted was grown only with the flourescents that
were on at the time of the picture. But that is bullshit, there are too many
well documented grows, EVEN CASE STUDIES where plants have not performed
as well as yours did under OPTIMUM circumstances and with even more CFL wattage.

It's also ironic that your other plant the "purple widdow" was absolutely horrid
in comparison.

And what facts have you given? You told us as much information about the grow
as you thought you knew.

NO NUTES throughout the whole growing process, this also is very hard to believe
unless you mixed your own amazing organic soil. And you say a soil COCO mix,
coco is inert, so there would be even less supplementation in the soil which
you started with.

You also say you were 12/12 from SEED, so how did you "veg" at your house??
Being that marijuana plants flower in generally 56-65 days, the WHOLE flowering
process was at your house, give or take 1-2 weeks of preflowering.

I don't need anymore pics, Im just showing you why I'm callin you out, and how
much this thread stinks like bullshit. Next time document your grow, and I will
eat my words for breakfast. Thanks. -Shrubs....

Shrubs First said:

First off...What does the number of posts I have made have to do with anything?

Yes, a 250 Watt HPS can be placed up to 6 inches away from the plant without
problems, even without an aircooled reflector.

So 2 months at your house before moving to your friends is "Starting"??????
That is TWO months of shitty environment before it is able to thrive at your friends.

So basically this is your friends grow, not yours.. he should really be answering
the questions around here....

How about any information you have throughout the grow, there is none, you
nor he did not keep a journal, nor did either of you take any pics.

I could lie and say the pic I posted was grown only with the flourescents that
were on at the time of the picture. But that is bullshit, there are too many
well documented grows, EVEN CASE STUDIES where plants have not performed
as well as yours did under OPTIMUM circumstances and with even more CFL wattage.

It's also ironic that your other plant the "purple widdow" was absolutely horrid
in comparison.

And what facts have you given? You told us as much information about the grow
as you thought you knew.

NO NUTES throughout the whole growing process, this also is very hard to believe
unless you mixed your own amazing organic soil. And you say a soil COCO mix,
coco is inert, so there would be even less supplementation in the soil which
you started with.

You also say you flowered from SEED, being that marijuana plants flower in
generally 56-65 days, the WHOLE flowering process was at your house, give
or take 1-2 weeks of preflowering.

I don't need anymore pics, Im just showing you why I'm callin you out, and how
much this thread stinks like bullshit. Next time document your grow, and I will
eat my words for breakfast. Thanks. -Shrubs....

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I must admit, you have made a good point and i doubt that you are "hateing".

peace

High Time 420 said:

I must admit, you have made a good point and i doubt that you are "hateing".

peace

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Definitely not trying to hate, i was just hoping to see a grow thread showing me
how amazing this CFL is... Instead I see finished pictures with a light which doesn't even resemple the color of the claimed bulb.
Dude, if this actually happened with a CFL I would throw my dual 600W system
out my door.. (maybe I wouldn't be that extreme but you get the point)

There is a reason why other people aren't using CFL's like this, and it definitely is not
because we are "hateing"

Shrubs First said:

First off...What does the number of posts I have made have to do with anything?

Yes, a 250 Watt HPS can be placed up to 6 inches away from the plant without
problems, even without an aircooled reflector.

So 2 months at your house before moving to your friends is "Starting"??????
That is TWO months of shitty environment before it is able to thrive at your friends.

So basically this is your friends grow, not yours.. he should really be answering
the questions around here....

How about any information you have throughout the grow, there is none, you
nor he did not keep a journal, nor did either of you take any pics.

I could lie and say the pic I posted was grown only with the flourescents that
were on at the time of the picture. But that is bullshit, there are too many
well documented grows, EVEN CASE STUDIES where plants have not performed
as well as yours did under OPTIMUM circumstances and with even more CFL wattage.

It's also ironic that your other plant the "purple widdow" was absolutely horrid
in comparison.

And what facts have you given? You told us as much information about the grow
as you thought you knew.

NO NUTES throughout the whole growing process, this also is very hard to believe
unless you mixed your own amazing organic soil. And you say a soil COCO mix,
coco is inert, so there would be even less supplementation in the soil which
you started with.

You also say you flowered from SEED, being that marijuana plants flower in
generally 56-65 days, the WHOLE flowering process was at your house, give
or take 1-2 weeks of preflowering.

I don't need anymore pics, Im just showing you why I'm callin you out, and how
much this thread stinks like bullshit. Next time document your grow, and I will
eat my words for breakfast. Thanks. -Shrubs....

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Hey Shrubs,
Here is a member with twice as many as your posts & look what this person says.

Widow Maker said:

I work at the local hydro shop for fun now days.

But just to back you up some... The guy with 1000w of cfls prolly didnt read the book. What you did can easily be expected.

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Hmmm, Widow Maker says what this person did with the 85watt can easily be expected. Who to believe ? You or someone who works at a hydroshop for the fun of it ?

mookie brown said:

Hey Shrubs,
Here is a member with twice as many as your posts & look what this person says.


Hmmm, Widow Maker says what this person did with the 85watt can easily be expected. Who to believe ? You or someone who works at a hydroshop for the fun of it ?

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All i can do is laugh at you all with your "forum experience..."

I went to school for plant biology and horticulture. I don't put that in my signature
or post about it all day. I've worked with plants for years and I veg with none other
than, yep, you guessed it, FLOURESCENTS! SO I love flourescents.... But to expect
this from flowering with them? Please. "I work at a hydro shop for fun" Well thats
what you would call it if you weren't being paid


Edit: I encourage you to replicate this mans grow. AND DOCUMENT IT WELL! Because I would
love to be proven wrong, rather than simply told I don't know what I'm talking about.

very impressive...

~cheers

Shrubs First said:

All i can do is laugh at you all with your "forum experience..."

I went to school for plant biology and horticulture. I don't put that in my signature
or post about it all day. I've worked with plants for years and I veg with none other
than, yep, you guessed it, FLOURESCENTS! SO I love flourescents.... But to expect
this from flowering with them? Please. "I work at a hydro shop for fun" Well thats
what you would call it if you weren't being paid


Edit: I encourage you to replicate this mans grow. AND DOCUMENT IT WELL! Because I would
love to be proven wrong, rather than simply told I don't know what I'm talking about.

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So you're saying you can't flower with fluorescent ? Well if you went to school for plant biology the word fluorescent should of been used quite frequently by you so then why when you typed that word you do it with typos ? Someone highly educated like yourself in plant biology wouldn't typo that word. I'm not going to waste my time to prove a point but I would say one can easily grow 21grams dry weight with 85watts of cfl. Since you're a big man who likes to call people out then go call out Widow Maker. I'd enjoy reading that Mr Plant Biologist.

mookie brown said:

So you're saying you can't flower with fluorescent ? Well if you went to school for plant biology the word fluorescent should of been used quite frequently by you so then why when you typed that word you do it with typos ? Someone highly educated like yourself in plant biology wouldn't typo that word. I'm not going to waste my time to prove a point but I would say one can easily grow 21grams dry weight with 85watts of cfl. Since you're a big man who likes to call people out then go call out Widow Maker. I'd enjoy reading that Mr Plant Biologist.

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Not my fault I'm dyslexic. Never has or ever will be.

Just keep changing the subject, I love yearlings. You are a simple
minded generalizing person. "since you are a big man you loves to
call people out" blah blah blah, I'm calling this fool out on his grow.
I don't care why mr widow works at a hydro shop for the fun of it.
My hydro shop workers say the most retarded shit all the time, such
as "Lumens are what matters bro."
Just keep sniffin his nuts little man.

There is no way to properly deliver that 85 Watts of CFL to the leaf
surface, the bulbs aren't shaped properly, even if you have the bulv
as close as possible like 3/4s of the bulb is facing away from the plant,.

And you're going to reflect it? Yea right most of that will be reflected
directly back at the bulb anyway..

And I don't claim to be a qualified plant biologist, I didnt get a degree,
I have a background in general plant biology and horticulture, took
P. Bio, Hort 101, Greenhouse management, Turf science, agronomics and started a business.

wiseguy316 said:

imagine what if would have done with a 600 hps..lol

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burnt them to a crisp

OMG PPL give it a rest, so what if he didnt document his grow , just means he cant prove it was all cfl, but none of you can prove that it wasnt so give the drama a rest

Shrubs First said:

Not my fault I'm dyslexic

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lol Ok Mr Plant Biologist What does dyslexia have to do when you know how a word is spelled ? So your dyslexia interferes with memorization ? You're funny !! Thank you for being my entertainment this evening Mr Plant Biologist. +rep

Shrubs First said:

Definitely not trying to hate, i was just hoping to see a grow thread showing me
how amazing this CFL is... Instead I see finished pictures with a light which doesn't even resemple the color of the claimed bulb.
Dude, if this actually happened with a CFL I would throw my dual 600W system
out my door.. (maybe I wouldn't be that extreme but you get the point)

There is a reason why other people aren't using CFL's like this, and it definitely is not
because we are "hateing"

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Not trying to hate ? Are you fucking kidding me ?

You come up to the thread saying that I grew my plant with another light ! And to close the argument, you even criticize my 1st grow.
It's obvious that my Purple Widow was my first grow, I did not expect a giant bush of weed.
You don't even think that you actually are wrong and you are now saying that my friend should be the one creating this thread, I mean come on, you are not even asking questions.

SHRUBS FIRST = I KNOW ALL ABOUT WEED, THIS IS FALSE, DON'T TRY TO PROVE IT BECAUSE YOUR FRIEND DID THE FLOWERING PHASE. THE END.
Very constructive.

FYI : The AK48 did not flower before December 28, 2009, even though I started it on 12/12 two months before. I thought something was wrong with it and somebody on RIU advised me to keep it (the guy's name is Darrens in case you want to investigate more).
My soil ? The brand is CANNA Coco Professional Plus.

Documenting my grow... are you serious ? Testing AK48 seeds with a 85W CFL for fun doesn't need to act all scientific Sir.

You are just flattering me man.

THANK YOU !

Yo BlackBuddha,
This wannabe plant biologist isn't worth the time of day. Notice how very creative he is with caps & punctuation marks but spelling the word fluorescent wrong multiple times & when I called him out on that he blames it on dyslexia ? Amazing how this plant biologist is very creative with his sentences but his memorization for the word fluorescent he gets wrong every time & uses dyslexia as for the reason. This guy is full of beans & ain't shit !!

My phone is too slow to reading through that guys last few posts as I have something to say to that but I think your plant is some great shit. Some people are just jealous that even with all the equipment they are still shit at growing. I am no master but why so -ve on his grow.

Yeah, This is pro.

Why are all the pics labeled as Kush? I thought this was an AK48 grow...

Schmarmpit said:

Why are all the pics labeled as Kush? I thought this was an AK48 grow...

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We call all kinds of weed "kush" me and my friends. Some kind of code to not get busted (parents, etc..).
I used to hear this word in a lot of rap songs but it's only when I started growing that I found out it was actually a strain, but I am not a big indica fan.


It's good to see so many views ! Keep the questions and comments coming !

BlackBuddha said:

We call all kinds of weed "kush" me and my friends. Some kind of code to not get busted (parents, etc..).
I used to hear this word in a lot of rap songs but it's only when I started growing that I found out it was actually a strain, but I am not a big indica fan.


It's good to see so many views ! Keep the questions and comments coming !

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Here's pics from my CFL grow with four 42w bulbs

Got about 1.5oz dry off er.

It works, it's cheap, its mistake friendly as well as closet friendly...

Definately glad I used CFLs for my first grow and got a sizeable amount of good buds (The colas were dense..the rest of the buds were pretty airy)

daisy2687 said:

Here's pics from my CFL grow with four 42w bulbs

Got about 1.5oz dry off er.

It works, it's cheap, its mistake friendly as well as closet friendly...

Definately glad I used CFLs for my first grow and got a sizeable amount of good buds (The colas were dense..the rest of the buds were pretty airy)

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Very nice plant Daisy, which strain is it ?

The buds on the AK were also airy but very nice smoke, nothing of a harsh taste and fruity.

Thanks for contributing to the thread.

Keep posting people, it gets more and more interesting.

BlackBuddha said:

Very nice plant Daisy, which strain is it ?

The buds on the AK were also airy but very nice smoke, nothing of a harsh taste and fruity.

Thanks for contributing to the thread.

Keep posting people, it gets more and more interesting.

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Complete bagseed.. I smoked it all before I could name it too hahga..

The pics were 2 weeks before harvest. Harvested kind of early with prolly 20% amber trichs... I just got so impatient. I want to grow to 75% amber this time.