Found an investor and want to hear your thoughts on my setup.

So here's my story.
I found an investor out east (i'll be growing some BC bud haha..) and I'm gonna be lighting up my basement and den. He is open to my suggestions for growing and wants to see a sketch before he send me the money. This is what I've come up with, just consider two of these setups, one in the basement for veg and the den for flowering.



The 50 gallon tanks are full of pre-mix. This should save me from refilling ressys often. Large resevoirs will be pumped to the smaller ones, these will gravity-feed 12 plants via irrigation hose. After set time the water will be pumped back into the larger resevoirs (hopefully using suction to pull water from each plant).

I thought up this method because it seems crazy to build all these 3-foot tall stations to put the plants on with your standard e&f. But i'm a rookie greenthumb- if i'm the crazy one, give me your suggestions.
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I'm not sure a rookie should start this large scale...
Sorry if thats not what you want to hear.

But it looks like a good setup.

mnk007 said:

I'm not sure a rookie should start this large scale...
Sorry if thats not what you want to hear.

But it looks like a good setup.

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I agree! This dude, is trynna get the party started. lol

Well, I've had 4 little guys going in my closet with a lone 400-watt hps for the last year. first two rounds didn't go so well but last harvest, I yielded 12oz in soil.

And wouldn't you do the same if you had someone offer you up to 15,000 to set one up, and you just got a house on a two year lease about 20kms out of a small town, with your nearest neighbour living 200 yards away?? he he he...

And wouldn't you do the same if you had someone offer you up to 15,000 to set one up, and you just got a house on a two year lease about 20kms out of a small town, with your nearest neighbour living 200 yards away??"

I wouldn't, but that is just me. If something was to go wrong you just spent 5k, 10k, whatever-k (lol), that wasn't yours. Can you pay that back?

If so then go for it, looks like it would be a fun venture.

I would just use my own money...

Let me give it to you straight. I'm not some big shot or anything but I do have a 50K setup. I, like you found an investor, grew small before buying the house. My plans were a lot larger than yours but my recommendation is that you plan on failures your first year. They will happen. If you think you're going to get that money set up the room clone your girls transplant watch and harvest.... that's the last thing that will happen. Expenses will pop up. Pumps will break, floods will happen, shop vacs will lose all sucking capabilities, breakers will blow, etc... and that's just on the material side. If you don't know how to diagnose plant problems quickly and efficiently you're going to be heartbroken. Once you get your plans all set up you're going to find that the room will not cool off fast enough, or it will hold too much humidity, or radiant heat is too much, or you need more air circulating in another corner. Dude, I'm telling you, this job is not easy. I, in all honesty, thought this would be a walk in the park and I still encounter problems -- to this day (I just had 4X1000 go out on an 11K run. Now I have to figure that out. Your budget will be spent many times over. If you get 15K plan on at least 20K being spent. If you get 20K plan on 25-30K being spent. Throw all hopes of the most insane looking bud out the window, your dreams will be shattered. That shit only happens when you get a good year or two under your belt. Always make sure to have $1K cash on hand at every moment. Have a bank card or paypal card that your partner can load money on... you will need this option quite a bit. If you forsee something happening, call your partner immediately to let him know of the possible problem, costs associated with this problem and how you are going to rectify the problem.

This is a huge step. I wish you the best of luck. Hope for the worst, plan for disastrous. Anything else will be a treat. I'm just trying to give it to you real. If anybody tells you any different, tell them to fuck off they don't know what they're talking about. Anytime you take it above 40-50 plants shit gets difficult. Anytime you take it over 100 plants you need to become god. I don't know about you, but I am far from perfect. Trying to regulate one 900 sq ft room to prime conditions took a year to master. So, basically as long as you plan for failure, you're good.

Just so you know I'm for real, here are a few pics

Partners can inevitably lead to problems, plus those systems look like a lot of work. I imagine you'd start to feel pretty shitty if you're doing all the hard work and he's taking most of the crop since he's the funds behind everything. Plus like the others have said, if someones sending funds to you and something happens to go wrong, that's a whole heap of trouble you could be in.

edit: Holy crap mister, how are you able to run 10k in lighting and not get tagged by the elec company? Medical grower?

o big point i would also make is nothing ever goes to plan the first hydro run maybe in soil but hydro inst forgiving and shit can happen so i might consider doing it in soil since ur experienced in that and u can always switch once ur investor is paid off

Basically what he said about expenses... I always end up spending more than I planned on, especially in todays market.

Once again my friend, not trying to rain on the parade. I just don't want to see anybody go through what I went through. A once good friend of mine said it perfectly, " You can make this as difficult as you want or as simple as you want, the choice is yours." Now knowing what I know, I could've saved thousands of dollars and gone with a few things at the shop instead of what "they" said would work. Be patient, read, do your research and plan, plan, plan. And the most important of all, Keep it Simple. Remember with hydro you add a lot to the equation. Once your ph dips for too long or vice versa you're done. Once root rot sets in you're done (unless you know how to counteract all these), but honestly, bro, that comes with experience. Learn from my experiences and look at things from the outside looking in. You'll be thanking yourself later on when you can get out of that partnership. And like d4mth3m4n (good lord) said, partners can lead to problems. Make sure he understands you and you understand him. Is he supportive under stress or will he make things worse? The more 'you' stress, the more your plants stress. Weird how that happens but it does.
Oh, and d4mth (sorry had to shorten it, felt like I was seeing things) yes med grow and painfully I'm clinching as they insert with no lubricant and it hurts. Electric will rob you blind and it's all on a tier structure. Fucking mob collectors. I pay heftily, put it that way, hence why I'm moving and got a 69KW generator. Off the grid bitches, jigga jigga yeaaawh btw having a big electric bill isn't as big a deal as some may think. Just gotta move to the right place where using that much is the norm. Expensive investment, but so on the low that I amaze myself sometimes. I've been doing this for a while though. Didn't start off this way by any means. Payed $400 a month for elec. alone in a 2 bedroom apt in a make shift tent running a 430 and moved up from there. Oh how easy it used to be. Sometimes I really wish I could go back and do it all over again. Man, how I would plan differently.
Seatosky - if you plan this the right way, you're gonna be successful, miss one step and it's gonna leave a scar. That goes with (and this is just a lil secret to help you out) getting your attorney and getting a dba for a welding business or some other type of business that can explain high electric usage. Now go off and get busy.

my advice would be that if he has offered you 15k... decline. accept 5k and set up a complete grow on that. if the first crop is successful then you will have another 10k to invest from that.

5k would buy a shite load of equipment. Period.

Another 5k could be held over for the electric bills that will be coming.

So... 5k in advance... and let him pay the electric bill

Once again, I would have to agree with mister420green. Sure, I don't grow on that scale... but I can tell you that it is definitely important when doing illegal things to make sure you do not stick out. That being said, make sure you move into a location where a LOT of electric is normal OR set up shop in a location where you aren't using the building for anything but growing. This way you can make the bill appear normal if needed. But of course expensive things always seen to pop-up when you think everything is going smoothly.

omg that shit looks tight as hell man. send some bud my way when your done, ill spark you up

DaGambler said:

my advice would be that if he has offered you 15k... decline. accept 5k and set up a complete grow on that. if the first crop is successful then you will have another 10k to invest from that.

5k would buy a shite load of equipment. Period.

Another 5k could be held over for the electric bills that will be coming.

So... 5k in advance... and let him pay the electric bill

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I can't tell you how right you are. If I would've followed this rule I wouldn't have that gray pube hair that popped up from all the stress. Didn't even know you could stress out your member.

mister420green said:

I can't tell you how right you are. If I would've followed this rule I wouldn't have that gray pube hair that popped up from all the stress. Didn't even know you could stress out your member.

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Haha, too much information.

I sure would not be talking here if i was growing in my house

Korvette -- You have to get that fear out of you. Unless you are growing thousands of plants and pulling shitloads of power you are not even worth the time. Plus the resources and pay it takes to have 'human' monitors is out of DOD's budget. That's all a wives tale. The only place to grow is in your house, if you do it elsewhere that's an even bigger risk and definitely not the smartest thing to do for a number of reasons. Don't you think neighbors notice if someone occupies a residence or business for a few hours at odd times, unloads, loads and then leaves for a day or two. These people pay out their ass to hold onto their only prized possession - their house. They watch their communities and know everything that goes on. You may have an old lady who just sits by the window, or two wives that walk everyday and discuss how the foreclosures are happening in their neighborhood and look at every detail. The only place I would recommend growing outside of your house is in a deserted patch of land -- that you own. Also, if you live where you grow and there is a knock on the door, at least you are there to give your med papers and contact numbers to the cops. If you do that elsewhere and they knock they will bust it down and take your shit and then you've got a world of problems. Everybody that I've known in cali that has done that has woken up to an unhappy ending because of neighbors noticing suspicious activity.

If you're in this business you have to live by the motto, keep your friends close and your enemies closer. And don't get advice from somebody who hasn't done the scale that you are doing. They simply just don't know.

Note: This is strictly for people who grow in states where it is legal. Any other states... get the fuck out of there and get to where it's legal, why take the chance?

Its not legal here thats why I have my aerogarden at a friends house ,, I would never set a grow like that up in my house and then post it online ...

moving just isn't feasible for me at this time... but man, i need to educate myself on these knew 'legal to grow' laws.