bagada
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YouTube - The Secret is in the Soil
this is why i grow organic
this is why i grow organic
FOX FARM 100% Organic
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whatuppp
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That was an awesome video to watch and learn. His results are incredible!!!
So do you use this stuff and how has it worked for you???
As I previously said I am not against organics, just looking for the best fertilizer.
Purple^stars
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hey dj mendoza do you now what type of strain is that you have in your avatar.
Thanks purp
drumsinttown
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bagelthief and whatupp.... Great points indeed.
Gotta admit you just made points that I had actually not considered. For me it comes to making the soil healthy.... Not just the plants. I am interested more in keeping myself from a tempting mentality of "pouring on more to make it better" and staying more with the idea of making sure the plant has exactly what it needs and nothing more.
I have been watching two outdoor grows this season and they are both using maxsea. Maxsea is a HIGH npk fert. The methods were slightly different (mostly in the soil containers) one was wine casks cut in half, and the other was air pruning burlap lined chicken wire pots...... Same soil. Same climate conditions.... These guys are neighbors. The burlap lined chicken wire pots were fed less than one container's worth of maxsea over the duration of the grow. The other grow used FOUR. FOUR containers. The buds were half as big. That tells me alot in terms of what I need to know..... How much more it comes down to method and patience and care..... and restraint.
Kind of like an argument between whether a 357 or a 9mm has more stopping power.... if the holder of the 357 doesn't know which end is the barrel, it might not be as effective.
Gotta admit you just made points that I had actually not considered. For me it comes to making the soil healthy.... Not just the plants. I am interested more in keeping myself from a tempting mentality of "pouring on more to make it better" and staying more with the idea of making sure the plant has exactly what it needs and nothing more.
I have been watching two outdoor grows this season and they are both using maxsea. Maxsea is a HIGH npk fert. The methods were slightly different (mostly in the soil containers) one was wine casks cut in half, and the other was air pruning burlap lined chicken wire pots...... Same soil. Same climate conditions.... These guys are neighbors. The burlap lined chicken wire pots were fed less than one container's worth of maxsea over the duration of the grow. The other grow used FOUR. FOUR containers. The buds were half as big. That tells me alot in terms of what I need to know..... How much more it comes down to method and patience and care..... and restraint.
Kind of like an argument between whether a 357 or a 9mm has more stopping power.... if the holder of the 357 doesn't know which end is the barrel, it might not be as effective.
djmendoza21
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OKAy okay,,
Well organics is for health yes.. But everything kills you.
THe reason i do organics is not to be healthy but more because when I compared both MY grows,,
the organic was way more potent smelling and just tasted good overall.
SO i said why not if it taste/smells better just go 100% organic,.
And yess i flushed for three weeks on both and gots a month cure.
Thanks for all your input but this got way off subject.
so ya thanks guys..
Well organics is for health yes.. But everything kills you.
THe reason i do organics is not to be healthy but more because when I compared both MY grows,,
the organic was way more potent smelling and just tasted good overall.
SO i said why not if it taste/smells better just go 100% organic,.
And yess i flushed for three weeks on both and gots a month cure.
Thanks for all your input but this got way off subject.
so ya thanks guys..
Bagelthief
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does no one have any info for me??
whatuppp
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I am not an expert, at least not on plant fertilizer. But I could venture a reasonable guess based on the laws required for labeling a product.
Now keeping in mind that fertilizer for plants does not fit under the category as a food for human consumption, but that there must be some kind of loose guidelines that a company must use to put something on their label, an educated guess would be that the base or stock of this fertilizer was obtained from organic sources. My educated guess would be that their are other constituents of this fertilizer that are not derived from an organic source.
An example would be they cooked this fertilizer down from Cow Manure till they got a liquid, then added extra potassium and phosphorus in which case they could not call this all organic. Both potassium and phosphorus are chemical elements found on the periodic table. Both could be safely added in their chemical form and be safe for plant and ultimately human consumption, yet neither would qualify as an organic. By adding anything to the organic base the company could no longer claim that it was an organic fertilizer. (You could compare this to a soup that uses chicken stock, ie: the stock/liqiud is the broth obtained off of the cooked chicken bones and meat, then you throw a bunch of stuff in and end up with chicken noodle soup with veggies added!, it is not salty enough and you add sodium, wanna make it more tasty add a little msg)
This is all theoretical here as I do not know how FF makes their fertilizers or what is added or not.
Unless the company were to give you a complete breakdown of how exactly they make there fertilizer and what they add you will never know.
By the way I theorize what I have said above based on how the government requires labeling of vitamins and other nutritional supplements. I do have some expertise in health and animal nutrition, holding a degree in nutrition science.
Hope this helps a little!!!