fox farm nutrient trio

I'm using the fox farm nutrient trio and I'm following the guide using half strength. My two girls have been in veg for about 2 months now. On the feeding schedule it only goes to 4 wks in veg, flush, then flower. But I figured since I'm doing a scrog and need more time in veg I would just keep repeating the wk 4 nutrient schedule. But then I started noticing deficiencies. My question is, should I keep sticking by the wk 4 schedule or should I go ahead and up the nutrients? Maybe go full strength for the remaining 3 wks or so before I flip to flower and pick up on wk 5 of the feeding schedule provided by fox farm?

Now I'm not a fox farm nutrient pro and I don't use chems in fact I grow organic. What I'm tryin to figure out is why you'd up the nutrients before you switch to flower mate? Usually people up their nutes 2 weeks into flower. But really you're suppose to follow the chart. I did that and I got huge fat colas when I grew with chemicals. Not anymore though. Organic only for me. The smell and smoke is unbelievable. It gets you so high ya wouldn't believe it.

StoneyMcphatter said:

Now I'm not a fox farm nutrient pro and I don't use chems in fact I grow organic. What I'm tryin to figure out is why you'd up the nutrients before you switch to flower mate? Usually people up their nutes 2 weeks into flower. But really you're suppose to follow the chart. I did that and I got huge fat colas when I grew with chemicals. Not anymore though. Organic only for me. The smell and smoke is unbelievable. It gets you so high ya wouldn't believe it.

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Interesting that you mention this now. I'm switching back to organic for my next grow!

Chunky Stool said:

Interesting that you mention this now. I'm switching back to organic for my next grow!

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Yea ya should mate the smell is phenomenal. The smoke? Oh the smoke is so potent. The plants look so healthy and pure too. It's so different. See when you grow with chems you hurt the plants. You steal from them too. You tell the plants, that they need something manufactured in a lab to grow. It's not natural. The reason we grow marijuana and stay away from the sticks is because it isn't produced in a lab. Thats just my opinion.

How do I go about growing organically? I grow indoors and was told I needed nutrients

StoneyMcphatter said:

Now I'm not a fox farm nutrient pro and I don't use chems in fact I grow organic. What I'm tryin to figure out is why you'd up the nutrients before you switch to flower mate? Usually people up their nutes 2 weeks into flower. But really you're suppose to follow the chart. I did that and I got huge fat colas when I grew with chemicals. Not anymore though. Organic only for me. The smell and smoke is unbelievable. It gets you so high ya wouldn't believe it.

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Well like I said, on the chart it only goes up to 4 wks in veg and on wk 5 you flip to flower. But I need more time in veg cause I'm using scrog and need more tume in veg to fill out my scrog net. But I'm hearing a lot about growing organically and that now has my attention. How would I go about doing that?

I have been reading into growing organically and yes, that definitely seems the way to go. But as for now I need an answer on my current situation

Man I use 100% on the nutes get the rest of the line up too and use happy frog you can start the feed schedule after the first week its all organic until week 2 my plants are ready and able to take 100% the whole grow using everything and flushing when it says but not using 5x the water only 2 gal each 3 gallon container oh yea add lime to it and only neet to use pH up when you start the tiger bloom and if you need to extend the veg side of the schedule keep using week 4 until ready to continue

Chrisz0825 said:

Well like I said, on the chart it only goes up to 4 wks in veg and on wk 5 you flip to flower. But I need more time in veg cause I'm using scrog and need more tume in veg to fill out my scrog net. But I'm hearing a lot about growing organically and that now has my attention. How would I go about doing that?

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kornwood said:

Man I use 100% on the nutes get the rest of the line up too and use happy frog you can start the feed schedule after the first week its all organic until week 2 my plants are ready and able to take 100% the whole grow using everything and flushing when it says but not using 5x the water only 2 gal each 3 gallon container oh yea add lime to it and only neet to use pH up when you start the tiger bloom and if you need to extend the veg side of the schedule keep using week 3 until ready to continue

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On your fox farm feeding schedule the first 4 wks is in veg. After that it's flower schedule with an added chemical, tiger bloom. I'm now in 8 wks veg. My question is do I keep going by the last feeding it says to do in wk 4 for the remaining time it's in veg. No one has answered my question

Chrisz0825 said:

On your fox farm feeding schedule the first 4 wks is in veg. After that it's flower schedule with an added chemical, tiger bloom. I'm now in 8 wks veg. My question is do I keep going by the last feeding it says to do in wk 4 for the remaining time it's in veg. No one has answered my question

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Might as well, but pay attention to your plants & they will tell you what they want.

Chunky Stool said:

Might as well, but pay attention to your plants & they will tell you what they want.

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Which is why I brought this question up. I've been continuing on the wk 4 feeding suggestion and I've noticed a deficiency. From what I gather it's from a lack of phosphorus. And the final product of the Fox farm trio, which is for flowering, has a much higher ratio of phosphorus. But I don't want to add something that's for flowering when I'm still in veg. This is only my second grow and I'm trying to get this perfect. But I guess I still have a few more grows till I get this down pat

Chrisz0825 said:

Which is why I brought this question up. I've been continuing on the wk 4 feeding suggestion and I've noticed a deficiency. From what I gather it's from a lack of phosphorus. And the final product of the Fox farm trio, which is for flowering, has a much higher ratio of phosphorus. But I don't want to add something that's for flowering when I'm still in veg. This is only my second grow and I'm trying to get this perfect. But I guess I still have a few more grows till I get this down pat

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If they need it, give it to them. Many nutrients recommend combining veg & bloom at different rates, depending on timing. Hell, I'm doing it now! I run veg nutes all the way through flower but decrease them while gradually increasing bloom nutes.

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As far as FF nutes , you can run your veg as long as you want ...
Now that you stated you were at 8 wk veg ... You can increase your nute load to her .
I dont know what your deficiency is or looks like but if you are talking RED STEMS it could be a number of things .... Lack of P OR even too much nitrogen and others .


It sounds more to me ... Is that your medium is depleting . I sometimes top dress with new soil BEFORE i do my regular watering . As you water on it ... It will leach into base like a tea. If i notice an improvement in plant , then its base medium going south.

When are going to flower ?

Som

Budzbuddha said:

Pics ?
As far as FF nutes , you can run your veg as long as you want ...
Now that you stated you were at 8 wk veg ... You can increase your nute load to her .
I dont know what your deficiency is or looks like but if you are talking RED STEMS it could be a number of things .... Lack of P OR even too much nitrogen and others .


It sounds more to me ... Is that your medium is depleting . I sometimes top dress with new soil BEFORE i do my regular watering . As you water on it ... It will leach into base like a tea. If i notice an improvement in plant , then its base medium going south.

When are going to flower ?

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Someone told me to top dress the soil with dolomite lime because they believe it's a pH problem. All the water going in is at 6.5 with about the same runoff. I'm using r/o water with a tsp of csl/nag per gallon of water.
I had no idea your soil could deplete. I thought adding nutes would keep the soil to do its thing.
I plan to flower in 3 wks or so

I would remove that lime. Up the strength from 1/2 (which you said you were doing) to 3/4th. Then watch the plant what it's telling you.

You have a bigger starving plant imo.

You can add a pinch to a 1/4 tsp of Epsom's salt (nonscented) to up the Magnesium.

The FF trio is a rip off and their feeding schedule is a joke. Good luck!

Chrisz0825 said:

Which is why I brought this question up. I've been continuing on the wk 4 feeding suggestion and I've noticed a deficiency. From what I gather it's from a lack of phosphorus. And the final product of the Fox farm trio, which is for flowering, has a much higher ratio of phosphorus. But I don't want to add something that's for flowering when I'm still in veg. This is only my second grow and I'm trying to get this perfect. But I guess I still have a few more grows till I get this down pat

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I use GH Flora Nova Bloom in veg using the lucas formula and let me tell you my plants are huge and thriving with zero deficiencies. It's not bad to use flowering nutes in bloom as long as they have enough nitrogen. The nova bloom has enough nitrogen for veg at 5 to 6 ml per gallon of water. I will up it to 8ml when the go into veg. I also make compost tea to supplement my feedings. Next year I'm going all organic too. But for the remainder of this year I'm sticking with my lucas formula ratios. So to address your comment. Giving you girls flowering nutes doesn't make your plants flower and it's perfectly fine to use as long as its got enough nutes at the right ratios. Try flora nova bloom next time. It's cheaper than the trio of fox farms and it's a one stop shop. Lots of people use it alone without anything else and get great results. I just add some silica, humic acids and mycorrhizae when transplanting and in between feedings. So far this has worked really well. My girls are 3 ft tall and have about 4 more weeks before the California days get short enough to flip them into flowering. They should be huge by the time I'm harvesting. Happy growing

FF needs cal mag supplement. Looks like extreme cal mag deficiency

Week 4 also calls for open sesame which has the phosphorus your plants need
And after week 2 I start adding 1 tsp calmag until week 5 then I bump it up to 2 tsp calmag and a feed water feed water happening every 3 days after week 3 until then its 100% once a week with my waterings having half of calmag compared to what my feed level is

Diabolical666 said:

FF needs cal mag supplement. Looks like extreme cal mag deficiency

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Im using r/o water so I'm already adding Cal mag. 1tsp per gallon of water