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Big P

Well-Known Member
Keep reading abc and usa today..... sigh.... you need some sources son.

Obama came in on the high....and has slipped ever since. Reagan had a Democrat controlled Congress and media against him.... Obama has the OPPOSITE. Obama has gotten EVERYTHING he has wanted and to great media fanfare.... and no one CARES.... Obama cannot stop the slide no matter what he says.... and the more he talks, the less ppl believe him.

He's certainly no Reagan.... there may be some number alignment...but the context behind those numbers couldn't be farther apart.

Also, Obama is the most divisive President I have have been around. he is constantly talking trash in public...assailing ppl and industries....like a Chavez. Look back at ANY President and try and find one that talked anything like Obama.

He has no class. A President leaves that to others. A president is supposed to represent ALL the ppl. Obama LOVES to single ppl out..... shallow.

The ppl are done with him (taxpayers only of course, not the hobos)....they are done with Congress.

Foreign policy is in tatters after a year....allies no longer trust us....our enemies no longer fear us....they see the weakness....everyone does. Iran will have a missile capable of hitting the US around 2015.... not long. Obama has completely abdicated Iran. he will abdicate Afghanistan too.... just wait.

I could put up a mighty list.... but what's the point now? Congress will be shaken up completely soon....and Obama will be out in 2 years.... then the country can rebuild...and repeal the damage...it will take years to undue...but it will be done, if not....we will be the biggest banana republic ever. A fine legacy for Obama.


just think if obama was president at the time he would have pulled out and not done the surge which ended up with us winning the war in iraq finally


that would have sucked ass if he had pulled us out before the surge


so you can only guess how hes gonna fuck up next.


thats an obvious fuckup his position on the surge. history wont lie
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Obama telegraphed his weakness long before he was elected...through his voting record....

Yes, America makes mistakes.....

I love the subtle attempt to link Obama to Reagan. They always have the "defense" of..no just the numbers.... which is of course...empty nonsense.

All they have to do is fool enough of the public at any one time. But it's the same ppl who get fooled....over & over & over again.

Iran hasn't been fooled.... Russia hasn't been fooled..... China hasn't been fooled..... our allies haven't been fooled.... although it has taken them a while to catch on that Obama is an empty suit, but they get it now....loud and clear.
 

Patrick Bateman

Active Member
lol I forgot CrackerJax has the ability to predict the future

Silly me

I should have realized solid fact in the form of numbers was "empty nonsense"
 

medicineman

New Member
Obama telegraphed his weakness long before he was elected...through his voting record....

Yes, America makes mistakes.....

I love the subtle attempt to link Obama to Reagan. They always have the "defense" of..no just the numbers.... which is of course...empty nonsense.

All they have to do is fool enough of the public at any one time. But it's the same ppl who get fooled....over & over & over again.

Iran hasn't been fooled.... Russia hasn't been fooled..... China hasn't been fooled..... our allies haven't been fooled.... although it has taken them a while to catch on that Obama is an empty suit, but they get it now....loud and clear.
Say CJ, Didn't I see you at a teabaggers rally with an Obama with a Hitler moustache sign? I'm sure it was you.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
That's not racism... dunderhead. It's a political statement that Obama is taking us towards authoritarian rule....which happens to be very correct.

It does fit since the Nazis were left wingers as well.

I welcome an honest debate on his foreign policy failures so far.... just bring data with you.
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
The funny thing about this all is that the right wing deity Ronald Reagan enjoyed almost the exact same ratings as Obama up to this point

Reagan, who cut taxes in the top bracket from 70% to 28% over 7 years, increased the national debt from $700 million to $3 trillion.

During the Recession of 1982, the Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act was enacted - a 3 year $100 billion tax hike, the largest since WW2

Excise taxes on cigarettes doubled and those on telephone services tripled - temporarily

In December 1982, the unemployment rate stood at 10.8%

2 years later, thanks to deficit spending and lowered interest rates, all the angry people forgot about the recession and Ronny was re-elected

The End
Your numbers are correct, but todays numbers are not, you see Clinton made huge changes to the way all the economic/labor statistics were formulated, so todays numbers do not correlate with yesteryears numbers. Any number you see attributed to Obama, is a bastardized one. Unemployment 10%, more like 17%. Inflation at 2.3% is really more like 40% when you consider food and energy. Sure houses have gone down in price, and those shiny new caterpiller bulldozers are cheaper, but you don't NEED those. Its all just a big joke on the lowly American citizen, we get SOOOO taken advantage of at every turn. Forced to pay for the malfeasance of others, and thats not enough so they go and hire 16,000 more IRS agents to screw with your life to make sure they are wringing every last red penny out of you.

Also remember that Reagan Had a Economy and a country that actually had some Wealth, we were the number one creditor and the Dollar was strong. He implemented a policy to take us out of the beginning of an inflationary collapse by raising interest rates. Sure it caused great pain to some, but it was all over in a couple of years and thats what started the 80's decadence. Reagan knew full well that a country in our current shape could never have those policies of credit expansion.

Obama on the other hand was given the impossible to do, because if you took every penny ever made by anyone in the USA in the last 235 years and added it all together to pay off our debt, the government would still be totally bankrupt. Inflation is the only option. Congress has spent like a drunken sailor on new years eve for the last 2 generations. Armed conflict on foreign soil is so common that its just taken for granted that we will always be somewhere killing other people for their resources which we covet. No one even blinks an eye when you hear that 150,000 Iraqi and Afghan civilians have been killed, just another day. Its taken for granted so much that they have a separate budget that doesn't count against us anymore, how laughable. They forgot to take note of all the blood spilled in their bean counting.

Its Congress' fault, not any singular president or policy that got us here, only congress can spend the money.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
All Obama had to do was shrink the govt. spending (debit) and release the dollars to the private sector (credit).

An alien idea to a liberal.
 
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