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SimonD

SimonD

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matt7835706 said:
Hey simon, Outstand work, I love how you take the time to give advise so freely. I've seen you around just didn't know your a master grower.

Can you give me a few pointers on your pruning techinques?

This is so bad on my part because I tell everyone not to prune, but man the weight your pulling with 4 weeks veg, I have to try a side by side.

I just so happen to have to plant that are so similar that it would be perfect, they are 20 days into flowering is that to late?

Anyway I can post a picture or my grow journal document my plant very well and up to date if you want to peek at that https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/537747-el-nino-sweet-diesal-train.html.

Thanks for you time
Matt
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Hi Matt. Let me take a look at your thread.

Simon
 
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matt7835706

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SimonD said:
Hi Matt. Let me take a look at your thread.

Simon
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Thanks, actually just went ahead last night and took about the bottom 1/5 of the plant foliage off, not sure if that was the right thing to do but i guess time will tell. Love to hear you thoughts though.
 
SimonD

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matt7835706 said:
Thanks, actually just went ahead last night and took about the bottom 1/5 of the plant foliage off, not sure if that was the right thing to do but i guess time will tell. Love to hear you thoughts though.
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Just to be clear, I don't suggest removing all the foliage. Only the secondary branching. I try to leave as many leaves in place as I can. This being said, if you did remove some of the leaves, it's really not a big deal in this stage of the game.



^^^ Very nice.

From day-1, indoors, I've LST'd every plant. Other than a few controlled runs, this is all I've done. I'm saying this, because some of your plants may be a bit late to bend. The plant all the way to the back (toward the left) looks like it can be bent pretty easily. OTOH, the plant on the front right looks like its stem may be quite thick. That can be hard to work with, IME. From clone, thick-stemmed plants can be LST'd at 5-6 nodes, when they're fairly pliable right after seating. I have seen similar methodology used in a tree-like garden, albeit in SOG with clones vegged for ~10 days. That's where I originally got the idea and over time worked it into my garden.

Simon
 
dozer777

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Not sure if it's going to be indoor or outdoor. Got a couple ladies in the woods wanting to give birth early. I'm okay with that as long as they are big kids! Others in room are 6 weeks out.
 

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By the way. Even took Simons advice on this lady. Soon as she started to show signs of flower, I whacked all the bottom shit off her. Hard to tell by pic but I cut a third off her fat ass!
 
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chinaoreo

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SimonD said:


It occurred to me that folks may not be familiar with this technique, or may not even be sure of what I'm referring to. The pics are from my tutorial on IC. Above is a Chronic clone after ~4 weeks of veg. It was LST'd at ~10 days after seating in the pot.



Same plant with its branches closest to the front pruned of their secondary growth.



Same plant ready to flower. Notice how the stems are pruned of everything other than the leaves.



Same plant finished.

Simon
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hey simon

im trying this technigue for the first time..my plants are 1 week in flower.. there are sooo many side shoots ranging from 1 to 6 inches... so basically i understand im pruning everything but the big main stems..and a few strong side shoots..? also another big question is on the top 6 of 8 inches of each mainstem are all those 1 to 2 inch long shoots..only being a week into flower theres not much bud on them but if i trim all of them off then where is the bud going to grow..? at the leaf to stem node right beside the cut off little shoot..? hope this doesnt seem like a stupid question im just trying to figure this out.. thanks for your help..!
 
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chinaoreo said:
hey simon

im trying this technigue for the first time..my plants are 1 week in flower.. there are sooo many side shoots ranging from 1 to 6 inches... so basically i understand im pruning everything but the big main stems..and a few strong side shoots..?
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I don't leave any side shoots (secondary branching) on my plants. They're pruned and flowered almost immediately thereafter. From seed, there's a bit more room to work with, as the plant typically stretches more and takes longer to begin to flower than its clone. In those situations, I prune the secondaries into the first week. This being said, it's not something I suggest to others. As a newer grower, you're better off being a bit conservative and adapting given techniques as they fit your needs.

also another big question is on the top 6 of 8 inches of each mainstem are all those 1 to 2 inch long shoots..only being a week into flower theres not much bud on them but if i trim all of them off then where is the bud going to grow..? at the leaf to stem node right beside the cut off little shoot..? hope this doesnt seem like a stupid question im just trying to figure this out.. thanks for your help..!
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In essence, I rely on the stretch to form the flower clusters. Not sure if it answers your question.

Simon
 
matt7835706

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SimonD said:
Just to be clear, I don't suggest removing all the foliage. Only the secondary branching. I try to leave as many leaves in place as I can. This being said, if you did remove some of the leaves, it's really not a big deal in this stage of the game.

From day-1, indoors, I've LST'd every plant. Other than a few controlled runs, this is all I've done. I'm saying this, because some of your plants may be a bit late to bend. The plant all the way to the back (toward the left) looks like it can be bent pretty easily. OTOH, the plant on the front right looks like its stem may be quite thick. That can be hard to work with, IME. From clone, thick-stemmed plants can be LST'd at 5-6 nodes, when they're fairly pliable right after seating. I have seen similar methodology used in a tree-like garden, albeit in SOG with clones vegged for ~10 days. That's where I originally got the idea and over time worked it into my garden.

Simon
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I bent these front two for about two weeks in veg to let some of the small shout catch up to the top canapy, I think i should have kept them tied for a bit longer into the flowering stage or somthing. they don't look quit like yours. The one in the back is just the way mother nature intended no bending or cutting. If you look at the most recent posts you can see that the front plants have about four to six top colas from the first attemt at lst, im going to be more aggresive on the next generation.

Thanks
Matt
 
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chinaoreo

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In essence, I rely on the stretch to form the flower clusters. Not sure if it answers your question.

Simon

ok simon thanks.. so im assuming the bud is going to start at the only flowers left..the very tops..and work its way down the stem..? im not a newbie but ive never trimmed side shoots off other than cloning and lower stuff. but i gave em the haircut last nite.. the only difficult part for me is deciding what constitutes as a main stem or just a nice side shoot.. my plants are topped so they have more than one mainstem but in my mind a untopped plant only has 1 mainstem everything else is side growth off the mainstem..is this not accurate..? i think i may have went too far on the trim well see.. i ended up with about 5 tops on each plant..i see yours have 7-8 +.....there bout 1.5" in 5 gal buckets..they were very bushy but after trimming all the side shoots now there just towers of mainstems..lol
 
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chinaoreo

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btw simon.. i read someone else say it and i too looove your growing style.. way back when i first started growing i used peters ferts and had spectactular results.. anywho i got my jacks classic on order be here in a couple days..:) you dont see any problems using jacks with coco/perlite mix do ya..? extra calmag maybe.? im using cns17 now. oh also im running 600s over 4x4 squares but getting ready to add more lights and tighten them up to 3x3 squares or 3.5X3.5..? so im lookin at running 6 or 8 lights in the room.. my question is would i be better off A: clustering the lights in the middle of the room(so i can walk around the perimeter and the lights will ALL overlap).OR...B: running the lights in a single row along side the walls(as i have now and i can walk thru the middle)but since its just a single row theres only blended light on the sides. hope this makes sense.. thanks for any input.simon u the man..! lol
 
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chinaoreo

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guess i should mention ofcours with the lights in a row against the wall the light reflects back if they were in the middle there would be no walls to reflect..unless i made some movable walls..??
 
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chinaoreo

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lol i just realized something when i came back here to check for updates... am i thread jacking..?!?..lol sorry simon if i did..as u can see from my post im a forum newbie..anyway had to throw that out.. maybe simon will be back here someday..:p..lol
 
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chinaoreo

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too much of a haircut..? was only a week into flower and trimmed all the side shoots..these cutoff ones shown here on a top stem were about 1/2-3/4 when i trimmed em.. so will the bud actually fill out the stem without these or did i just cut off the buds early..??..lol thanks simon for any help..!
 
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Holy shit bro i wouldnt change a thing if your getting results like that chinaoreo, also this is a great read asides from the part with the bitching :)
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