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indicat33

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So we started this freebie (Sleestack Skunk) 12/12 from seed and she took a while to show sex (maybe 27 days from sprouting). Now she is about 16 days in. Hoping to get her done soon so I'll have room to veg my next run (Hindu Kush)-Kiwi Seeds & Critical Super Silver Haze, from Delicious Seeds.S.Skunk 2014.JPG Finally showing pistils ~
 
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indicat33

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DSCN0023.JPG 12/12 from seed, About 16 days since first pistils - I had to train her because she was trying to grow through the roof. She's behaving now, but is showing some yellowing leaves @ the bottom. Looks like a Nitrogen deficiency to me... ?
 
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sunny747

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This is my take. I'm on grow four so take it for what it's worth.

I always get yellowing bottom leaves. I attribute it to my lights not penetrating deep enough, but I am never sure. You can chop most of the bottom growth off now though.(Lollipop) It's not doing much for you. The tops look healthy so I'm going to go with the thought that your lights don't penetrate deep down. Especially if you are using CFL or low wattage HID.

You could add some N for the next few weeks. By the time your plant finishes in about 8 weeks you want a lot of yellow leaves. Otherwise it means that you carried too much N through flower. It can affect bud weight and appearance and taste. Less chlorophyll in your buds is better.

One more thought is to ask if you are PH'ing your nutes. If the PH is way off then the plant wouldn't have the available N.

Looks good though. Have fun. I'm sure it's exciting.
 

MonkeyGrinder

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Critical Super Silver Haze, from Delicious Seeds.
I suggest running clones when you pop this. She throws off fatty colas. My next outdoor run will have these for sure after running it. From what I understand any of delicious' critical crosses are heavy on the yield side. Also 4/5 weeks in my CSSH looked like someone took a sugar shaker and went nuts on the buds. Easy peasy to grow. The other plants with it had an issue or 2. Hazzie Wayzie didn't have any probs whatsoever besides lightened up a bit when she wanted some N. She liked being topped and tied. Branches were fat and sturdy. And everything grew nice and uniform. She wasn't treated special at all. Went from 750ml pot. To 1.5 gallon smartpot. To 5 gallon. Grown in Sunshine Mix #4. Added lime to that. Used MG all purpose nutes at half strength through veg. Then just hit it with some cheap 10/10/10 Vigoro liquid plant food through flower once a week. The point is shes a performer. Extremely healrhy and vigorous. If you plan on actually vegging her you'll be more than pleased with the outcome. Also she mainlines like a dream. You can pull 8 and 16 colas no prob. I wouldn't go higher than than indoors unless youre doing only a few plants. Outside she can handle 32 no Probs. Better have a tomato cage for each plant though. That was the only downside. Had to buy tomato cages. The stems were think and sturdy as all hell and probably COULD have held up the bulk. But I wasn't gonna risk it if there was a crazy storm.
 

indicat33

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I suggest running clones when you pop this. She throws off fatty colas. My next outdoor run will have these for sure after running it. From what I understand any of delicious' critical crosses are heavy on the yield side. Also 4/5 weeks in my CSSH looked like someone took a sugar shaker and went nuts on the buds. Easy peasy to grow. The other plants with it had an issue or 2. Hazzie Wayzie didn't have any probs whatsoever besides lightened up a bit when she wanted some N. She liked being topped and tied. Branches were fat and sturdy. And everything grew nice and uniform. She wasn't treated special at all. Went from 750ml pot. To 1.5 gallon smartpot. To 5 gallon. Grown in Sunshine Mix #4. Added lime to that. Used MG all purpose nutes at half strength through veg. Then just hit it with some cheap 10/10/10 Vigoro liquid plant food through flower once a week. The point is shes a performer. Extremely healrhy and vigorous. If you plan on actually vegging her you'll be more than pleased with the outcome. Also she mainlines like a dream. You can pull 8 and 16 colas no prob. I wouldn't go higher than than indoors unless youre doing only a few plants. Outside she can handle 32 no Probs. Better have a tomato cage for each plant though. That was the only downside. Had to buy tomato cages. The stems were think and sturdy as all hell and probably COULD have held up the bulk. But I wasn't gonna risk it if there was a crazy storm.
Thanks for the info MG :-) Yeah, I plan on vegging my CSSH for at least a month before flipping her. I'm basically doing a 2-plant run this upcoming grow, under my 400-watter, the other being a 5-wk old Hindu Kush girl I've topped several times already. Both are in my small veh box, under a CFL lamp, atm. The CSSH should sprout any day now. So, this grow may be a bit challenging in terms of having a pure Indica with a nearly pure Sativa in the same grow. This is a first for me, so I'm a bit worried the CSSH will want to "grow through the roof", while the Kush will be staying short and bushy. I plan on topping the CSSH and super cropping her or otherwise training her to stay even with the Indica canopy. It may be a pain in the ass, but I'm hoping to get a nice result from both (very different) plants. That way, we can have daytime as well as night-time meds in one crop. Hoping to grow both fairly large and then flower them. We're sick of running out of meds between harvests, so hopefully "overlaping" them will solve that problem :leaf:
 

Jimdamick

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This is my take. I'm on grow four so take it for what it's worth.

I always get yellowing bottom leaves. I attribute it to my lights not penetrating deep enough, but I am never sure. You can chop most of the bottom growth off now though.(Lollipop) It's not doing much for you. The tops look healthy so I'm going to go with the thought that your lights don't penetrate deep down. Especially if you are using CFL or low wattage HID.

You could add some N for the next few weeks. By the time your plant finishes in about 8 weeks you want a lot of yellow leaves. Otherwise it means that you carried too much N through flower. It can affect bud weight and appearance and taste. Less chlorophyll in your buds is better.

One more thought is to ask if you are PH'ing your nutes. If the PH is way off then the plant wouldn't have the available N.

Looks good though. Have fun. I'm sure it's exciting.
I have found it to be that a mature plant, at the end of bloom, will have used all the nutes from the leaves surrounding bud sites, causing them to yellow, and fall. I actually use this as a measurement of completion, along with trichome/ pistil color. Depending on how far till finish, N is still needed, but a lot of bloom foods leave it behind. I supplement bloom foods with a little N, which is available in Calmag + (added N). You should use it anyway, especially at 4 weeks when most available calcium/magnesium will be depleted.
 

indicat33

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Unfortunately, this yellowing is happening too early. Been adding epsom salt to supplement Mag. Next time I will just use fish emulsion until they're halfway through flower (this will keep them green), and then starting with week 5, I will give them Earth Juice - Bloom. I think I may solve our problem that way. (?) :idea: (?)
 

indicat33

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This is my take. I'm on grow four so take it for what it's worth.

I always get yellowing bottom leaves. I attribute it to my lights not penetrating deep enough, but I am never sure. You can chop most of the bottom growth off now though.(Lollipop) It's not doing much for you. The tops look healthy so I'm going to go with the thought that your lights don't penetrate deep down. Especially if you are using CFL or low wattage HID.

You could add some N for the next few weeks. By the time your plant finishes in about 8 weeks you want a lot of yellow leaves. Otherwise it means that you carried too much N through flower. It can affect bud weight and appearance and taste. Less chlorophyll in your buds is better.

One more thought is to ask if you are PH'ing your nutes. If the PH is way off then the plant wouldn't have the available N.

Looks good though. Have fun. I'm sure it's exciting.
Our tap water has a neutral ph - This problem always happens when I switch to a bloom fertilizer (containing little o no N) so I am fairly certain it could just be N -deficiency. Next crop, I will stick with high N until about week 5, when I will feed bloom booster (Earth Juice). I am hoping this will solve the yellowing.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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Yeah, no need to drop nitrogen during flower. That's what your plants look like they need since it's the lower leaves yellowing. I use general hydroponics three part in hydro, many different systems, and leaves stay green the whole way through. Although I never follow their feeding chart and stop using the green after first few weeks of flower and even have ran the whole time with only the micro and bloom too.

Edit: Just double checked and you're in soil so just to clarify, I would not recommend GH's three part for soil. But GH does have a general organics line of *"organic" fertilizers for soil which maybe something to look into.
 

indicat33

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Yeah, no need to drop nitrogen during flower. That's what your plants look like they need since it's the lower leaves yellowing. I use general hydroponics three part in hydro, many different systems, and leaves stay green the whole way through. Although I never follow their feeding chart and stop using the green after first few weeks of flower and even have ran the whole time with only the micro and bloom too.

Edit: Just double checked and you're in soil so just to clarify, I would not recommend GH's three part for soil. But GH does have a general organics line of *"organic" fertilizers for soil which maybe something to look into.
Thanks man, however I have to use what is available at hand. I have fish emulsion (5-1-1) and I recently bought Earth Juice Bloom (contains no N). I also have epsom salts for the added Magnesium. I can't get my hands on anything else atm, however I am seeking advice on how to safely use what I do have. My thoughts: the fish Emulsion ALWAYS keeps my plants healthy & green in Veg. It's only when I switch over to a bloom booster that my leaves start yellowing. I plan to feed high N for the 1-st 4 wks of bloom and change over to bloom feed when we're 5wks. in. By then, it should work out all right. At least that's my view.
 
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Cobnobuler

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Sticking with Grow nutes the first few weeks of flowering along with going easy on the Bloom boosters help keep the plant greener longer.
 
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