Friend found seeds in a time capsule from the 70s...

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hi everyone, forgive me if im wrong but I think this is pretty exciting and can't imagine it happens every day(: so,


He just told me about this like it was nbd but apparently he has about 10-11 OG 70s genetics seeds he found in the old family home he lives in, in a safe dated in marker from the 70s. He was planning on popping them even though he has no experience growing so i was like what whoah whoah slow down, let me ask around.. I dont think he knows if they're bag seed or the origins or what, im asking him right now what he knows about them. He doesn't get why its such a huge deal, but I want to guide him so he doesn't end up popping them and end up with a bunch of hermies and mixed genetics, if they're even still viable. He knows nothing about genetics and taxonomy and all that, I have a cursory bit of experience but this is way above my pay grade, i just know some of those strains back then are really rare and highly prized so. Obviously if someone saved them in a safe they must have been pretty good, right? Maybe even OG landrace?

I know obviously the safest bet would be popping them one by one and trying to class them, but obviously it would take a lab or seed bank or growery of some sort to find out exactly what strain they are or what they're closest to. Obviously the most likely scenario is half of them are duds by now, so you can imagine how precarious this situation is and im urging him not to do anything rash.

So here's where I'm hoping you guys come in-- is there any sort of site or company you can put me in touch with that has experience in handling heirloom genetics that could help us out here in advising us on the next best steps? Clearly having some original 70s genetics mixed with modern growing techniques or hybridization could crop up a whole entire new batch of strains, so I'm well aware how potentially valuable these seeds are. Just hoping we might be able to get a hand in figuring out the best way to deal with them and leverage what a great asset he found .

Thanks!(:

-one love, Andrea
 
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That’s awesome.

I don’t think it necessarily means they’re anything special though, I’ve got bagseed from early 2000s somewhere that I saved just to try and grow later and never got around to it.


Genetics that old should definitely be sent to somebody who knows what they’re doing though.
 
go go kid

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what you do is get a light some soil and a pot and germ one at a time and hope for a female, it seems odd to purt bag seed in a safe, although its a safe place to hide seeds that were illegal to grow back then.
i take it youve never grown before.
if there 70's seeds, you could have some nice genetics there. og just means organic grown or ocean grown from what i can gather, could be well wrong there, there was a site called over grow that i was a member of for some years, so you could potentialy be talking some seeds from the famous OG strain that so much work and dedication went into.
can you get a light and start to grow your own? it is verry simple as long as you keep it simple. a bag of potting soil, a flower pot, some water and your set to go, with a light on, it realy is that simple.
you can take cuttings that are realy simple to do, there weeds and very hardy and taking them is no great of a problem as long as you follow a few simple rules.
 
Sparky413

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I would hold onto them, maybe when federal law changes, they could be worth a lot to the right person. a 50+ year old on e bay could go for a lot
 
go go kid

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Sparky413 said:
I would hold onto them, maybe when federal law changes, they could be worth a lot to the right person. a 50+ year old on e bay could go for a lot
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Sparky413 said:
I would hold onto them, maybe when federal law changes, they could be worth a lot to the right person. a 50+ year old on e bay could go for a lot
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you would never get the money for them, too many variables, no idea what they are strain wise
dont know if there even viable?
they could just be bag seed.
they could be shit genetics, ie many a hermi in them
etc etc.
now cuttings from an original 70's strain, grown and proven could be worth there weight in gold or even more. but you would have to grow out a plant, hope its female, reveg it, take clones if there any good for taking clones, some strains are a bitch to clone.
but without growing a female out , your just going by hope and wishes
 
Sparky413

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go go kid said:
you would never get the money for them, too many variables, no idea what they are strain wise
dont know if there even viable?
they could just be bag seed.
they could be shit genetics, ie many a hermi in them
etc etc.
now cuttings from an original 70's strain, grown and proven could be worth there weight in gold or even more. but you would have to grow out a plant, hope its female, reveg it, take clones if there any good for taking clones, some strains are a bitch to clone.
but without growing a female out , your just going by hope and wishes
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I was visioning a future where tissue culture is more common and the seed date cold be verified. I'm a pessimist, I doubt any of those seeds will germinate. I wouldn't take the risk.
 
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Sacredbioaesthetics said:
hi everyone, forgive me if im wrong but I think this is pretty exciting and can't imagine it happens every day(: so,


He just told me about this like it was nbd but apparently he has about 10-11 OG 70s genetics seeds he found in the old family home he lives in, in a safe dated in marker from the 70s. He was planning on popping them even though he has no experience growing so i was like what whoah whoah slow down, let me ask around.. I dont think he knows if they're bag seed or the origins or what, im asking him right now what he knows about them. He doesn't get why its such a huge deal, but I want to guide him so he doesn't end up popping them and end up with a bunch of hermies and mixed genetics, if they're even still viable. He knows nothing about genetics and taxonomy and all that, I have a cursory bit of experience but this is way above my pay grade, i just know some of those strains back then are really rare and highly prized so. Obviously if someone saved them in a safe they must have been pretty good, right? Maybe even OG landrace?

I know obviously the safest bet would be popping them one by one and trying to class them, but obviously it would take a lab or seed bank or growery of some sort to find out exactly what strain they are or what they're closest to. Obviously the most likely scenario is half of them are duds by now, so you can imagine how precarious this situation is and im urging him not to do anything rash.

So here's where I'm hoping you guys come in-- is there any sort of site or company you can put me in touch with that has experience in handling heirloom genetics that could help us out here in advising us on the next best steps? Clearly having some original 70s genetics mixed with modern growing techniques or hybridization could crop up a whole entire new batch of strains, so I'm well aware how potentially valuable these seeds are. Just hoping we might be able to get a hand in figuring out the best way to deal with them and leverage what a great asset he found .

Thanks!(:

-one love, Andrea
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I was involved in cannabis in 1970s and 1980s. I had never heard of OG Kush. Here's one of many stories that point to it's origination, from Central Asia in the early 1990s:

OG Kush: What Does "OG" Mean in the World of Cannabis | Strains & Products - Where's Weed Blog

What does OG mean in weed?
wheresweed.com wheresweed.com

1990s are very old seeds. If he's not good at germination I'd pass them off to someone who was and would take clones for me. I'd be very careful who that was. I'd probably use GA3 in their germination at that age. Interestingly I had some old brick weed seeds rolling around my underwear drawer from the 1970s and they germed perfectly for me the first time I tried to grow in 1996.
 
curious2garden

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Sparky413 said:
I was visioning a future where tissue culture is more common and the seed date cold be verified. I'm a pessimist, I doubt any of those seeds will germinate. I wouldn't take the risk.
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I doubt they are older than the 1990s and they could germinate. I'd certainly try them, good morning!
 
curious2garden

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Sparky413 said:
Good morning! Just curious, if you were going to pop seeds that old, would you go about it differently?
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In '96 I didn't but it was my very first grow. Today I'd use GA3. They could just pop normally like mine did. My recommendation would be to pass them to someone who has germinated a number of seeds and ask for clones in return.

I breed and have a lot of seeds, old seeds and although the germination rates go down I have decade old seeds that are still perfectly viable.

Also that first run should be an open pollination seed run with clones taken so if you get all females the next table you can reverse two and run a seed table with them, ALWAYS clone! I would take care to preserve those genetics.
 
Sparky413

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curious2garden said:
In '96 I didn't but it was my very first grow. Today I'd use GA3. They could just pop normally like mine did. My recommendation would be to pass them to someone who has germinated a number of seeds and ask for clones in return.

I breed and have a lot of seeds, old seeds and although the germination rates go down I have decade old seeds that are still perfectly viable.

Also that first run should be an open pollination seed run with clones taken so if you get all females the next table you can reverse two and run a seed table with them, ALWAYS clone! I would take care to preserve those genetics.
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very cool! I'm going to remember that GA3 trick if I ever need to
 
xtsho

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Well nothing OG is going to be a landrace but they could still be some decent genetics. If they're as old as you say then someone that has no experience growing or germinating old seeds more than likely will not get any to grow.

GA3 can help with the germination of old seeds but you need to use it correctly so before just running out and soaking seeds in a solution of GA3 you need to research the proper strength for what you're trying to do. I've used GA3 on old seeds before and did get some to germinate. I've also used it without success.

Good luck.
 
Skunkbudz

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I'd try to get them to sprout. If successful..... start taking cuts and see what's what. The two keys here are just as stated. Try to get them to pop then take cuts and grow them out.
 
Nubiewithboobies

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go go kid said:
what you do is get a light some soil and a pot and germ one at a time and hope for a female, it seems odd to purt bag seed in a safe, although its a safe place to hide seeds that were illegal to grow back then.
i take it youve never grown before.
if there 70's seeds, you could have some nice genetics there. og just means organic grown or ocean grown from what i can gather, could be well wrong there, there was a site called over grow that i was a member of for some years, so you could potentialy be talking some seeds from the famous OG strain that so much work and dedication went into.
can you get a light and start to grow your own? it is verry simple as long as you keep it simple. a bag of potting soil, a flower pot, some water and your set to go, with a light on, it realy is that simple.
you can take cuttings that are realy simple to do, there weeds and very hardy and taking them is no great of a problem as long as you follow a few simple rules.
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Ha, I thought OG was original gangsta or ganja. Lmfao. Just a top dog version of a good strain! Ha ha
 
curious2garden

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Skunkbudz said:
I'd try to get them to sprout. If successful..... start taking cuts and see what's what. The two keys here are just as stated. Try to get them to pop then take cuts and grow them out.
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Almost, at this point you don't want to constrict your genetic lineage. You want an open pollination of everything you have so you have all the genetic diversity. You need someone who has space to keep all the clones and run a table with everything.
 
Observe & Report

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Nubiewithboobies said:
Ha, I thought OG was original gangsta or ganja. Lmfao. Just a top dog version of a good strain! Ha ha
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Nobody really knows what "OG" stands for but "OG Kush" is a particular cultivar/cutting/genotype that is probably the most widely distributed "elite" of all. There are many crosses that are still being made too so its flavor has become an entire genre of weed.

85 samples have been sent to Phylos under a bunch of different names. https://phylos.bio/clone-group/GAL303/og-kush
 
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This is from seedI had in my freezer from 36 years ago..strain was called Beatrix Choice and I bought it from a seed bank called SSSC back in 1985…I still have others in deep freeze too, among them Freisland Indica and a creeper phenotype…out of 15 seeds I started, 5 didn’t germ fully, 6 are females and I kept the best male to repopulate my seed stash. Going to start revitalization of all my old genetics.
 

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