phrygian44
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Same for me here, but i don't get it. I'm up in Kanada and i wont get frost for another 3 wks, and everyone else south of me is getting hit. Go figure.
FROST: general rules from experience....
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Burnedman
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Yes. plant freezes...plant thaws out and its leaved go limp and it begins to wilt and die. Still smokable. But frost doesn't affect just the tops and spare the rest of the plant. THAT looks botrytis homeboi. Spray that rotted bud with baking soda water and remove it.
phrygian44
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SmichiganOG
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The ones in focus look healthy.How can ya tell when the bud pics are all blurry?
netjunky
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it did effect it all over some lower buds some middle of buds some not at all but the tops most because the plastics was touching them mostly the tops of the tops is what you are seeing ... this showed the day after frost and was dry enough to to smoke in one night of frost
Burnedman
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I have had that happen too and ended up learning the hard way that the plastic can't b touching the plant of the condensation still freezes. In my exp with kill level frost the frosted buds were fine to smoke, they never turned black or dry. i cut em dried em and smoked em (i have pics posted of that crop earlier in this thread if u wanna see what a flash frozen nug looks like one cut and dried)...I'm pretty sure the brown buds in your pics are bud rotten and i wouldn't smoke em if i were you. Only thing you could do wit em is drown em in 99, kill the spores and dissolve any remaining thrics.
Govno
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Me 2 on the kanuckistan part. My first time outdoor grow and I have a med lic so this is going to be interesting. Post pics when done.
I am more curious what temp is considered too late or now it's going to be butter?
I read here in the thread a bunch of different opinions and temps. any where from -2 C to 0 C is still ok and plants will survive be ok?
We are looking at possible temps overnight of around + 1 to + 2 overnight and that is sure close to that freeze temp. Some of my strains need a little more time.... you know noobs and trying to bend the time line on stupid..... (I planted GG # 4 / C99 and LA Kush - yes they all look great - C99 a wee bit on the low producing side for some odd reason standing @ 10 feet plus tall monster)
I will make a post on here when all is done as I want a full story start to end with pics and my topsy turvy experience, hope to get good advice so I can plan better for next year.
Thanks in advance.
phrygian44
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OUCH!
Pulling mine today. have another week but it's too damp and drizzle-rainy.
phrygian44
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A lot of guys on the forum are saying that the plants can take short hits at 0, but I find that my plant starts to no longer perform and looks droopy around 4C.
The temp forecast looks reasonable for the next couple of weeks (7C night, 19C Day), but it's mostly going to be wet, rainy, damp weather, and i just had to cut off one bud because half of it was covered in a fine, grey mold (scared the crap outta me), so I'm not taking any more chances and pulling the plant today as the rains are a startin' again this afternoon.
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Burnedman
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Yea a "frost" might not kill a plant but a freeze frost does. the instant the sun hits the the plant it's over, they will go limp and die. Same homie had an R2skunk out there too and it froze like that friday night...homie never saw it saturday cuz he was working...and it froze a second time saturday night. It was on cruise control to be mad high quality
Burnedman
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Looks pretty finished besides maybe needing to fade itself a bit more. What is the strain?
phrygian44
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ya, one more week would'a finished her proper, but rain and dampness promotes mold like nothing else, and it's jut not worth the risk of loosing the entire plant.
un-ka-nown. it was an experiement this year now that i have my own place. my GF gave me 10 seeds from two different bags, all germinated and were super healthy in the greenhouse, then one morning 8 were drooped and very dried-out. i removed them from the others into a separate greenhouse but they never recovered. they looked to be of a different strain than the other two (leaves were a bright yellow-green), while the other two were your typical green green, so it must'a been something that got to theses. funny that the other 100 different flowers and veg's that i had growing in there didn't get sick. anyway, one of the remaining two ended up being a male so that just left me with the one.
come January, I'm going for 3 strains of feminized.
Funkentelechy
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I think humidity plays a role and whether you're growing in pots or in the soil, the rootzone temps make a big difference.
Indfireguy
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How long do I have to harvest after frost killed my girls. Got to -4 overnight. And unfortunately had a surprise rain roll through late afternoon yesterday. So was more of a flash freeze/frost. All 5 limp this morning. Only 1 was ready, and 4 others still needed 2-3 weeks. I’ve heard they may still ripen more but all growth is stopped. Do you think that’s viable? They will ripen more? If not what’s my window to chop/trim/wash/dry these girls? Last plant was a full day. I’ve got 5.
Funkentelechy
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If it were me I would start harvesting, unfortunately. -4 is rough, I've never really had a plant recover when they get that cold.
That's my opinion.
That's my opinion.
Indfireguy
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All the leaves were wilted this morning. And there were some partial frozen areas as it was damp going into the night.
My issues is there’s 5 of them. There big. My last chop took a day. So you’re confident no further ripening will take place? I get there done with growth. What’s my harvest window? Can I do it over next 3-4 days?
Indfireguy
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Could just be a cruel Mother Nature joke. But I’m the last 2hrs sun just been beating them, they’ve all perked right up. Look normal? Is this just fools gold?
Funkentelechy
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That's good, If they've perked back up then maybe you dodged a bullet, hard to say.
It's like it freezes between the fibrous core and the outer cambium layer, and when you apply any kind of pressure the outer layer wants to separate. After that point the vascular system of the plant is pretty much screwed in my experience, I've tried leaving them for a week or two to see if they can heal and recover but it has never worked for me.
But, when/if that happens you still have time to harvest over multiple days, they act more like a flower when you cut it and put it in a vase, they don't die right away and you can still work with them, but they aren't going to fully recover and start growing again. I've never noticed them getting more mature after that point, once the vascular system gets that damaged they just slowly get less vibrant and get more floppy over time, like a flower in a vase.
Just watch them and see if they continue to get better for a few days, and check the smell. If they become more limp over time and start to smell like hay or lawn grass then start chopping, because it's not going to get better. That's been my experience, hopefully others will chime in.
Good luck(not being sarcastic).
No, I'm not confident of anything without being there. What ends up happening to me when plants get too frosted is; 1) they wilt and may perk back up a little bit but never fully recover. 2) when I grab a branch the outer green layer of the stem peels right away from the inner core.
It's like it freezes between the fibrous core and the outer cambium layer, and when you apply any kind of pressure the outer layer wants to separate. After that point the vascular system of the plant is pretty much screwed in my experience, I've tried leaving them for a week or two to see if they can heal and recover but it has never worked for me.
But, when/if that happens you still have time to harvest over multiple days, they act more like a flower when you cut it and put it in a vase, they don't die right away and you can still work with them, but they aren't going to fully recover and start growing again. I've never noticed them getting more mature after that point, once the vascular system gets that damaged they just slowly get less vibrant and get more floppy over time, like a flower in a vase.
Just watch them and see if they continue to get better for a few days, and check the smell. If they become more limp over time and start to smell like hay or lawn grass then start chopping, because it's not going to get better. That's been my experience, hopefully others will chime in.
Good luck(not being sarcastic).