Future of cannabis not in Canada, Canadian cannabis expert claims

gb123

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For Canada's cannabis expert, the future of the drug in Canada isn't in northern commercial greenhouses, but in the fields of Central and South America.

Ernie Small is a principal research scientist at Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada in Ottawa. He's grown and studied the drug for decades, and has written several books on the subject — though he swears he's never had so much as a toke.

Small says many of today's commercial grow operations aren't run efficiently, which is driving up the cost of the drug. They're often run by self-taught growers who've relied on the advice of people growing cannabis illegally.

"There is a lot to learn, and their methodology is inefficient and is contributing to the high cost of marijuana," says Small, who has toured some of them. "There is no question that this is an industry with huge profit potential, but it also has bankruptcy potential."

In Central and South America, cannabis crops can be grown a lot cheaper than in Canada.

He points to several large domestic cannabis growers that have invested in companies in South American countries to produce cannabis oils.

An interesting beginning" data-reactid="18">An interesting beginning

Small got his start in the cannabis game for the federal government back in the early 1970s, when he was tasked with studying the difference between illegal cannabis and legal hemp on a near-hectare of land in Ottawa's Central Experimental Farm, a wide swath of federal fields smack dab in the middle of the capital.

Police departments around the world sent him 350 cannabis seeds through the mail. They needed to be sure if the joints they seized from smokers were from illegal plants containing a lot of the psychoactive element THC, or hemp, which has a lot less THC.

He grew hundreds of plants on the farm, spawning a career that earned him the Order of Canada in December 2017 for his contribution to botanical knowledge and public policy.


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"It grew fantastically well," says the now-78-year-old scientist. "We had plants that were 18 feet high."

But eventually the grow-op soured. Word about the hidden cannabis surrounded by corn leaked out, and trespassers were getting high on government bud.

A barbed-wire fence, guards and "some rather vicious guard dogs" couldn't keep them out, Small recalls. In all, about 50 plants were stolen from the plot near Ash Lane, which earned the nickname Hash Lane.

"The blame came down ultimately to me and I almost lost my job," Small says in his office inside the farm's William Saunders Building.


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VIANARCHRIS

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For Canada's cannabis expert, the future of the drug in Canada isn't in northern commercial greenhouses, but in the fields of Central and South America.

Ernie Small is a principal research scientist at Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada in Ottawa. He's grown and studied the drug for decades, and has written several books on the subject — though he swears he's never had so much as a toke.

Small says many of today's commercial grow operations aren't run efficiently, which is driving up the cost of the drug. They're often run by self-taught growers who've relied on the advice of people growing cannabis illegally.

"There is a lot to learn, and their methodology is inefficient and is contributing to the high cost of marijuana," says Small, who has toured some of them. "There is no question that this is an industry with huge profit potential, but it also has bankruptcy potential."

In Central and South America, cannabis crops can be grown a lot cheaper than in Canada.

He points to several large domestic cannabis growers that have invested in companies in South American countries to produce cannabis oils.

An interesting beginning" data-reactid="18">An interesting beginning

Small got his start in the cannabis game for the federal government back in the early 1970s, when he was tasked with studying the difference between illegal cannabis and legal hemp on a near-hectare of land in Ottawa's Central Experimental Farm, a wide swath of federal fields smack dab in the middle of the capital.

Police departments around the world sent him 350 cannabis seeds through the mail. They needed to be sure if the joints they seized from smokers were from illegal plants containing a lot of the psychoactive element THC, or hemp, which has a lot less THC.

He grew hundreds of plants on the farm, spawning a career that earned him the Order of Canada in December 2017 for his contribution to botanical knowledge and public policy.


View photos
Laurie Fagan/CBC
"It grew fantastically well," says the now-78-year-old scientist. "We had plants that were 18 feet high."

But eventually the grow-op soured. Word about the hidden cannabis surrounded by corn leaked out, and trespassers were getting high on government bud.

A barbed-wire fence, guards and "some rather vicious guard dogs" couldn't keep them out, Small recalls. In all, about 50 plants were stolen from the plot near Ash Lane, which earned the nickname Hash Lane.

"The blame came down ultimately to me and I almost lost my job," Small says in his office inside the farm's William Saunders Building.


View photos
Supplied, 1971
Using the logic that cannabis should be grown in South America because it's cheaper to produce can be said about many things. It's cheaper to produce and refine Texas Crude than it is for Alberta oil. It is cheaper to train a doctor or nuclear physicist in Eastern Europe than it is in Canada.
 

chex1111

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Well the question is- what will be the rules on importing cannabis into Canada? Outdoor from another country won't pass the quality testing that is in place now. Extracts could definitely be shipped, but they can be subject to tarrifs that make the importation too expensive to be viable. I think its most likely that Canada will try to be protectionist about the industry, or it will start being a net loss for the country.
 

The Hippy

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Sooner or later the concentrates are going to be the cheapest source of THC. Bud will be a premium price imo.
You can get dirt cheap concentrate material from low cost outdoor crops. That will drive the concentrate market way down in price.
 

OLD MOTHER SATIVA

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Using the logic that cannabis should be grown in South America because it's cheaper to produce can be said about many things. It's cheaper to produce and refine Texas Crude than it is for Alberta oil. It is cheaper to train a doctor or nuclear physicist in Eastern Europe than it is in Canada.

well said..
 

spider9

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My Dad worked on guarding this govt. crop back around 1970 he had some good stories of the hippies rushing over the fences trying to steal plants. all the guards had billy clubs and the dogs were mean. He said they would come in waves the dogs would have a free for all and the guards would wade in swinging their clubs then the hippies would retreat and reform and try it again and again. I guess they figured if enough of them went all at once some would get through which occasionally some would make it but not that often. And our Govt. says there are no long term studies on pot but for sure they have been studying it since at least 1970 probably longer.
 

The Hippy

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My Dad worked on guarding this govt. crop back around 1970 he had some good stories of the hippies rushing over the fences trying to steal plants. all the guards had billy clubs and the dogs were mean. He said they would come in waves the dogs would have a free for all and the guards would wade in swinging their clubs then the hippies would retreat and reform and try it again and again. I guess they figured if enough of them went all at once some would get through which occasionally some would make it but not that often. And our Govt. says there are no long term studies on pot but for sure they have been studying it since at least 1970 probably longer.
They hurt us real real bad.......and the dogs were rabid.
 
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