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akhiymjames

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Mad Hamish said:
Freezers are as dry as can be. You ever see 'freezer burn'? It will dry a steak to weird grey jerky if not sealed properly. The big issue with the freezer is guaranteed condensation once whatever is frozen gets removed. With beans this translates to ALWAYS let your vault reach room temp before actually opening, or at the very least the pack you removed. I remove packs right inside the freezer I avoid removing the vault if possible. Extra insurance I have rice in the vault to absorb any nasty condensation instantly. It works like this: Air tight at room temp, seeds stay viable for a Max of three years. Air tight in fridge, make it a safe five with half of them making ten years. Freezer can extend seed life 25 years and beyond. Cryogenic storage of seeds have been happening for a few decades, folks reckon we can germinate those a few thousand years from now. Remember, a seed is not alive. It is code. DNA is code for processes. Only thing really needed to activate the code and start the process of iteration is water. Once the process runs it can not be interrupted, interrupting life process equals death. But before the water hits the seed, it is pure code. DNA is a protein sequence. It can remain intact through a journey into space.
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So once you take them out the freezer let them sit and get room temp before opening them? I know condensation is gonna happen like you said but I know you don't want them siting in that condensation until they reach room temp. When you take a pack out the freezer what do you do after that? Do you put rice in the lack of beans or what you store the collection in?
 
Yodaweed

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st0wandgrow said:
Two fixtures. I was going to replace one 600 watt HID with two 300 watt T-5 fixtures with 6 bulbs a piece, 12 total.

So now I have one T-5 fixture (6 bulbs, 300 watts) and one 600 watt HID for veg. Probably over kill now that I think of it
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Sounds beast for veg, you better have a lot of flower lights to go with that you can probably veg enough for a lot of flowering now.
 
Mad Hamish

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st0wandgrow said:
Two fixtures. I was going to replace one 600 watt HID with two 300 watt T-5 fixtures with 6 bulbs a piece, 12 total.

So now I have one T-5 fixture (6 bulbs, 300 watts) and one 600 watt HID for veg. Probably over kill now that I think of it
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wow bro you can run one kicking veg room with all of that... Seriously, go look what JJ has under his... you will see how much power you have there. It. Is. A. Lot lmfao....
 
Mad Hamish

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akhiymjames said:
So once you take them out the freezer let them sit and get room temp before opening them? I know condensation is gonna happen like you said but I know you don't want them siting in that condensation until they reach room temp. When you take a pack out the freezer what do you do after that? Do you put rice in the lack of beans or what you store the collection in?
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Ah well I must be more clear and less rambly lol... OK so every pack is sealed air tight, right, so no way condensation is getting to the beans while the pack warms up a little. Just don't open the pack before the outside shows no signs of moisture. A pack of beans warms up very quickly, little vials are not so cool for this reason, thick plastic stays cold longer and also doesn't warm evenly all the time. I double seal a pack in small jewellers baggies just to be super certain.
 
Flaming Pie

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Mad Hamish said:
Freezers are as dry as can be. You ever see 'freezer burn'? It will dry a steak to weird grey jerky if not sealed properly. The big issue with the freezer is guaranteed condensation once whatever is frozen gets removed. With beans this translates to ALWAYS let your vault reach room temp before actually opening, or at the very least the pack you removed. I remove packs right inside the freezer I avoid removing the vault if possible. Extra insurance I have rice in the vault to absorb any nasty condensation instantly. It works like this: Air tight at room temp, seeds stay viable for a Max of three years. Air tight in fridge, make it a safe five with half of them making ten years. Freezer can extend seed life 25 years and beyond. Cryogenic storage of seeds have been happening for a few decades, folks reckon we can germinate those a few thousand years from now. Remember, a seed is not alive. It is code. DNA is code for processes. Only thing really needed to activate the code and start the process of iteration is water. Once the process runs it can not be interrupted, interrupting life process equals death. But before the water hits the seed, it is pure code. DNA is a protein sequence. It can remain intact through a journey into space.
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I was under the impression that the cotyledons in the seed are alive. They use up their fuel if not germed for many years. which is why some seeds don't germ.

Dang.... I am so thinking of tossing my jar in the freezer now. I have a ton of bodhi beans I haven't been able to germ due to testing for gage.... AHHHHH
 
Flaming Pie

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2easy said:
I always thought that freezing beans ruptures cell walls as the moisture in the cells expands during freezing?
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I have read you need to get seeds below 10% water content to be able to freeze.

I just need a lightproof container to put my jar in and I will stick it in the top back of my fridge methinks.

Also read that you want your storage area to be under 100 when you add rh% and temp.
 
madininagyal

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Flaming Pie said:
I have read you need to get seeds below 10% water content to be able to freeze.

I just need a lightproof container to put my jar in and I will stick it in the top back of my fridge methinks.

Also read that you want your storage area to be under 100 when you add rh% and temp.
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the fridge is the best option imho i've kept seed in fridge for years and if it's good seed you will still have a good germ rate for sure i do the same method as st0wandgrow and it work really good
 
Mad Hamish

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Flaming Pie said:
I was under the impression that the cotyledons in the seed are alive. They use up their fuel if not germed for many years. which is why some seeds don't germ.

Dang.... I am so thinking of tossing my jar in the freezer now. I have a ton of bodhi beans I haven't been able to germ due to testing for gage.... AHHHHH
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Damn now we are entering the grey lol... From the perspective of the fact that biological process has not ceased, it is definitely not dead. But from the definition of life requiring Respiration, Transpiration, Growth, Movement or sentence etc, it is inanimate. Time to phone up my old biology teacher I am digging back to grade ten here...
 
Mad Hamish

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greenghost420 said:
if underdawg s1s put off fuel and not candy, joe is def a hybrid. loompa is making ud s1s....also medic made a underdawg bx and scrapped it due to the(s1?) male passing to much sweet candy flavs and not enough fuel.
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Fuel... and Candy hmmm... So you are saying that underdog OG passes on the same characteristics to itself as Jo passes to his offspring? Wow. I am surprised. Guess we should strike the OG off his name when used as a daddy too
 
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