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Bob Zmuda

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Flaming Pie said:
Plus how can you be sure that ut wont drop temps too low?
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IMO that's not possible with those. With 5ish gallons of water and 2 of those the lowest it's gonna get is 60 or so degrees. Which couldn't be more perfect for rooting clones. The quickest I ever had them root was at around 62 degrees. Protekt plus KLN and Roots in 7-10 days like nothing.
 
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Flaming Pie

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Bob Zmuda said:
IMO that's not possible with those. With 5ish gallons of water and 2 of those the lowest it's gonna get is 60 or so degrees. Which couldn't be more perfect for rooting clones. The quickest I ever had them root was at around 62 degrees. Protekt plus KLN and boom. Roots in 7-10 days like nothing.
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My father in law just gave me four food grade freeze packets. I'm gonna put em zippies but I think it should work.

He works at a liquor store and manages inventory.
 
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Flaming Pie said:
You like to put a bit of bloom food in? What ratio compared to reg strength do you use? 1/10?

Is it safe to mist them with greencure?
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Honestly pie, the best my clones have ever looked was when I put my exact same veg mix in that I use for vegging. I use to never ever put anything in besides the protekt and KLN. They would root but be full of yellowy dead leaves. I'd have to bring them back to life in a way once roots grew. Using a .7 ec mix at 6.0 ph my clones actually grow a bit while rooting and stay a bright perfect healthy green. I'll find pics of the roots and happy clones when I Can . :)
 
akhiymjames

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Bob Zmuda said:
Honestly pie, the best my clones have ever looked was when I put my exact same veg mix in that I use for vegging. I use to never ever put anything in besides the protekt and KLN. They would root but be full of yellowy dead leaves. I'd have to bring them back to life in a way once roots grew. Using a .7 ec mix at 6.0 ph my clones actually grow a bit while rooting and stay a bright perfect healthy green. I'll find pics of the roots and happy clones when I Can . :)
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Low light levels help with the yellowing. Sounds like your clones are in too strong of light and are synthesizing and starting to grow thus eating the stored food and leaves turning yellow. Try putting your cloner in the corner of veg room but I don't know where you put them just make sure the light isn't super strong that will make them want to grow.

I kept a Platinum Delights and HSO Blue Dream clone for 3 months in a cup of water just sitting by the window and getting some light from kitchen night light still green just like I cut it from the plant except it had super long roots
 
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Also another member here swears by the pool shock stuff by adding it to the cloner it helps deal with the high temps and still allows roots to grow. He wasn't the only member to recommend it either so it must work.
 
Bob Zmuda

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akhiymjames said:
Low light levels help with the yellowing. Sounds like your clones are in too strong of light and are synthesizing and starting to grow thus eating the stored food and leaves turning yellow. Try putting your cloner in the corner of veg room but I don't know where you put them just make sure the light isn't super strong that will make them want to grow.

I kept a Platinum Delights and HSO Blue Dream clone for 3 months in a cup of water just sitting by the window and getting some light from kitchen night light still green just like I cut it from the plant except it had super long roots
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Cloner has it's own closet with a single 12" T5 bulb. Not much light. They seem to just wanna go go go! :)
 
akhiymjames

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Yeah once I go past 72 in any room I start becoming neurotic. Summer is a bummer for cannabis growers.
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Except for people who have the great setups and have ac and all its nothing to them. Once I'm able to control this heat in my garage its gonna be nothing too. Putting in a small mini split for summer next year and wont need anything for winter garage nice and cool. I don't have anything in flower cus its just way too hot smdh not good at all. Sticking some stuff outside tho but i'll get some stuff in the next few weeks so I can combat this heat so I can flip something I need smoke lol
 
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akhiymjames said:
Except for people who have the great setups and have ac and all its nothing to them. Once I'm able to control this heat in my garage its gonna be nothing too. Putting in a small mini split for summer next year and wont need anything for winter garage nice and cool. I don't have anything in flower cus its just way too hot smdh not good at all. Sticking some stuff outside tho but i'll get some stuff in the next few weeks so I can combat this heat so I can flip something I need smoke lol
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I'm all hooked up with my AC and have BTU's up the wazoo... I just hate paying for it!!!!!!! Damn you electric companies!
 
Bob Zmuda

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I put a frozen water bottle and a frozen ice pack in. I'll check the temp of the water tomorrow.

I feel like such a dumb dumb forgetting that I could use an water bottle. lol.
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Ha! That's how I felt when I saw your watering-wand-pumper-device-thingy. I used water bottles forever and it worked as well. Last winter they put those blue ice things on sale for 25 cents each. That's when I figured I'd buy them. They seem to stay frozen a bit longer. But the water bottles worked great.
My wife: "what are all these frozen water bottles doing in here?"
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Flaming Pie

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Bob Zmuda said:
Ha! That's how I felt when I saw your watering-wand-pumper-device-thingy. I used water bottles forever and it worked as well. Last winter they put those blue ice things on sale for 25 cents each. That's when I figured I'd buy them. They seem to stay frozen a bit longer. But the water bottles worked great.
My wife: "what are all these frozen water bottles doing in here?"
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For sure.

I have 7 frozen pack things now. they have a gel in them so they should stay cooler longer too. They have to freeze first tho so I used my frozen water bottle.

I figure 4 of those packs (5 in x 3in) should keep it cool for one day. Switch em out every night after my daughter goes to bed.

Anything 72 and under and I am happy. I noticed a little growth/sludge a the bottom of the bucket last time I cloned. So definitely should do something just to be safe.

Healthy white roots still, but better safe than sorry.
 
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Kinda baffled on this one. It's pheno 2 of the blanco Berry kush. The smell is straight up meaty garlicky. The other pheno is very blackberry pie. Is this the white kush? I've grown the white and it was pure hashiness. Different?
 
yodabuds

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I've always had success with plain old tap water ph'ed to like 6 add some clonex and clean res, maybe after a week or so will add some h202 and I usually always have roots in 7-10 days.... I use to worry about the temps all the time but have found better success just leaving them be, always healthy roots, central ac , so it's usually steady 72-74 degrees.... I use a 4 gal ez closer 16site, also just use a 23w cfl about 6" over them
 
Mad Hamish

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No problem with clones eating up all their leaves. Mine did that all the time till I got into a Kelp foliar the day before cloning. Clones look better but a few weeks on and they all look the same. Now I don't bother I just accept some yellowing and all is good
 
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