gas lantern technique

May11th · Mar 13, 2015

So anyone try vegging under this technique, or flowering on let's say a abnormal light schedule, I just read a issue in skunk mag that I'm unsure I can trust.

What we're your thoughts.

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greasemonkeymann · Mar 13, 2015

May11th said:
So anyone try vegging under this technique, or flowering on let's say a abnormal light schedule, I just read a issue in skunk mag that I'm unsure I can trust.

What we're your thoughts.

Please no trolls. I'm always to high to give a shit about argueing,let's be peaceful. Also don't be a vag and accept a Lil sarcasm or vulgar language, I'm no saint .

Smoke the fuck up and let's learn some stuff and discuss . Or bullshit or share some laughs.

2 bowls of blue dream out of a bong, friiiieeed.

hmm, are you asking if any of us have used a gas lantern for supplemental light?
Or CO2?
Pretty sure the lightband wouldn't be the greatest, not to mention it would make the room hotter I imagine.
BUT, I don't know any of those statements to be a fact, but the light doesn't appear to be the right spectrum.
Annd amen to your statement.
Lets be peaceful.
Usually the organics section is pretty friendly

st0wandgrow · Mar 13, 2015

greasemonkeymann said:
hmm, are you asking if any of us have used a gas lantern for supplemental light?
Or CO2?
Pretty sure the lightband wouldn't be the greatest, not to mention it would make the room hotter I imagine.
BUT, I don't know any of those statements to be a fact, but the light doesn't appear to be the right spectrum.
Annd amen to your statement.
Lets be peaceful.
Usually the organics section is pretty friendly

It's actually not a "gas lantern" that you put in the room, it's a technique where you interupt the light/dark schedule for an hour which allows you to run your lights less.

http://cannabisni.com/grow-bigger-and-better-saving-30-50-percent-on-your-energy-cost/

4ftRoots · Mar 13, 2015

I run 12/5.5/1/5.5 for veg and 13on/11off for flowering with IR supplementation for the emerson effect. I really like the gas lantern technique since it saves on electricity. It does make the plants grow a little slower but I put one plant in flowering a month so it is a dream.

What issue did you read about on skunk? Would you be able to link to it? I seem to always develope foxtails but I thought that was from the 13on/11 off schedule.

May11th · Mar 13, 2015

I honestly believe foxtails to be linked to either high light or heat, I'm leaning more towards heat though. Just from my experience with some trainwreck from a past grow.

Thanks2 for sharing 4ftroots, the issue was volume 10, issue 5-feb/march2015. article was named Control your cannabis, deux, "less light more weight" done by Joe pietri, it's nice to know people are trying different methods and venturing out from the norm.

greasemonkeymann · Mar 16, 2015

st0wandgrow said:
It's actually not a "gas lantern" that you put in the room, it's a technique where you interupt the light/dark schedule for an hour which allows you to run your lights less.

http://cannabisni.com/grow-bigger-and-better-saving-30-50-percent-on-your-energy-cost/

hmm, i'll be damned, never heard that term before

May11th · Mar 16, 2015

it's been around while I guess but I don't know of any growers who actually run It. I'm debating on trying it but not sure yet.

None the less experimenting can't do anyone wrong so I'm glad there is always something to learn .

Al Yamoni · Mar 16, 2015

That very article has peeked my interest in these last weeks as well.

Once I get back to the grow show (hopefully it isn't too long of a hiatus for me) I plan on trying out the extreme suggestions in that article and running a total of 7 hours for veg and 6 hours for bloom.

It will be fully documented from start to finish with pictures and detailed info. If I can have my jars full from 13 hours of light per day with minimal sacrifice then ill call that THE fucking game changer for me. The wife will be stoked too!

Kush Killington · Mar 17, 2015

I ran the GLR for awhile. It works well keeping nodes tight and i didnt really notice a loss in growth from say 18/6.
But i do not use it currently. The reason being i was having issues taking clones. I don have an extra space to root clones so they end up in my veg tent. Under the 12/1 cycle, some of my clones wud root while others wud just flower. They wudnt stretch or grow really, just start spittin out hairs and trichomes.
I believe this to be fault of the strain since but the problem is intermediate between phenos. But since im only growing this one sativa, its to much of a headache to deal with for a slight savings in electricity.

I vouche 100% for the GLR. It DOES work and well. But if yur using it for the savings, yu have other issues...
Its best use is for shortening yur cycles. Plants vegged with GLR flower quicker with minimal stretch. None of that 2-3 week delay crap after switchin to flowering light.

Sir KK

May11th · Mar 17, 2015

Awesome read man, well I guess if you just run seeds it would be great, I run mainly clones, seeds are tough for me to get because I have a hard time finding keepers.

Kush, was your yields higher or lower on gas lantern technique.

a senile fungus · Mar 17, 2015

Kush Killington said:
I ran the GLR for awhile. It works well keeping nodes tight and i didnt really notice a loss in growth from say 18/6.
But i do not use it currently. The reason being i was having issues taking clones. I don have an extra space to root clones so they end up in my veg tent. Under the 12/1 cycle, some of my clones wud root while others wud just flower. They wudnt stretch or grow really, just start spittin out hairs and trichomes.
I believe this to be fault of the strain since but the problem is intermediate between phenos. But since im only growing this one sativa, its to much of a headache to deal with for a slight savings in electricity.

I vouche 100% for the GLR. It DOES work and well. But if yur using it for the savings, yu have other issues...
Its best use is for shortening yur cycles. Plants vegged with GLR flower quicker with minimal stretch. None of that 2-3 week delay crap after switchin to flowering light.

Sir KK

I read up on it a couple of years ago and to solve that issue you would increase the length of the 1hr light cycle. So maybe make it 1.5hrs and your two dark cycles would be 5.25hrs.

But I've never actually done this, tbh.

The thought is that the plants aren't quite staying in veg and so if you bump up the interrupting light cycle then they'll stay vegging...

Maybe I'll try this on a few plants one day.

Kush Killington · Mar 17, 2015

May11th said:
Kush, was your yields higher or lower on gas lantern technique.

In the past yeilds were a little less but close to the same. IMO, a win. Shorter flowering cyle made up for loss of yeild if there was any.
Recently thou i had success thru veg but had some hiccups mid flower so i cant say as far as this strain goes.

a senile fungus said:
I read up on it a couple of years ago and to solve that issue you would increase the length of the 1hr light cycle. So maybe make it 1.5hrs and your two dark cycles would be 5.25hrs.

..Maybe I'll try this on a few plants one day.

I tried increasing the interuption length up to 2 hours. Eventually ill give it another shot but just havent had the space/time. This issue aside, i liked the cycle growth and yeild wise.

Sir KK

a senile fungus · Mar 17, 2015

Kush Killington said:
In the past yeilds were a little less but close to the same. IMO, a win. Shorter flowering cyle made up for loss of yeild if there was any.
Recently thou i had success thru veg but had some hiccups mid flower so i cant say as far as this strain goes.

I tried increasing the interuption length up to 2 hours. Eventually ill give it another shot but just havent had the space/time. This issue aside, i liked the cycle growth and yeild wise.

Sir KK

@RM3 uses this cycle.

hyroot · Mar 18, 2015

ice mud on you tube uses it too and swears by it. I dont know. ..... I've done it outside. Turning the porch light on for a couple hours to keep plants in veg. I can't say how it effected yield. They are small plants that only got 6 hours of direct sunlight a day. I kinda want to try it.... But I dont. Maybe after the party cup.comp. I'll try it with a couple plants in that closet.

May11th · Mar 18, 2015

It's so tempting, this run I'm trying something new or I would so forsure next run. Could save alot of peoplease money and help run less electric

Bugeye · Mar 18, 2015

I have used this method but remain very skeptical of increased yields from it. I sure did not see that but I was not running a controlled experiment, just trying to keep my electric bill down. I also use a light on for an hour during the night in my greenhouse to keep plants in veg.

Kush Killington · Mar 18, 2015

Bugeye said:
I have used this method but remain very skeptical of increased yields from it.

Are people claiming increased yeilds from the GLR? I call bs.
Shorter light cycles and shorter flowering are counterintuitive to greater yields (per plant that is).
Unless they meant a faster turn around which I cud see as "increased" yeilds.

GLR is just the poor mans veg for the most part .. And yu don really save to much overall.

Sir KK

Kush Killington · Mar 18, 2015

Oh and some strains DO NOT like the GLR cycle. Ive had some plants go into a sorta veg/flower limbo. The start growing different bladed leaves from 1 to 5 each node. Spittin pistils like they 3 weeks into flower and shit.

Sir Kk

Bugeye · Mar 18, 2015

Kush Killington said:
Oh and some strains DO NOT like the GLR cycle. Ive had some plants go into a sorta veg/flower limbo. The start growing different bladed leaves from 1 to 5 each node. Spittin pistils like they 3 weeks into flower and shit.

Sir Kk

The article referenced by St0wandgrow above in post #3 claims plants will grow bigger, better and faster. I might believe you could improve your yield on a grams per kwh basis, but difficult for me to believe absolute yield would be improved. The article also references the need for plants to rest...

Kush Killington · Mar 18, 2015

Plants dont need rest. But there is a saturation point for light. Meaning, there's a point where the plant isnt able to absorb light as efficiently.

Sir KK

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