GEHL LED or Houyi LED lights ?

Ilianius

Member
Hi Guy´s,

few years ago had a try whit some LED lights, works well. Now i want to start again whit the new generation of lights.

Here the links : Gehl : http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/1000511341/GEHL_COB_led_grow_lights.html

Houyi : http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/923305133/high_power_450w_COB_led_grow.html

What do you think which one from them is better, my fav. is GEHL the NOAH 6 series. They have 6 COB cluster whit 30 x3W Leds and 72 pcs of 5 Watt leds.

The color spectrum from GEHL is large 11 or 12 different nm´s. 843ae359b1590c886946d39374dbbac4.png looks nice. The real watt is 575watt. +-.

We would like top use the light for 4 x 4 what do you think will be the GEHL lamp whit 575 watts enough?
 

Ilianius

Member
Thats not the "new" from Houyi its the same just whit Lens.

What do you think about the GEHL light?

Blackdog also use 5 Watt leds, so i was thinking the Gehl lights are a mix from 5 Watt leds and the COB cups.

The VanQ is to small would need 3 or 4 pcs to fit 4 x 4, they also have recommend to use one Lamp for 1 plant (maybe the saller dint know well, just sale).
 
okay.. thought it was.. :) i dont know about blackdog.. sorry.. im thinking if you a going to buy a multichip system, you shoul go you the houyi.. on the other hand, the other one has dimmer, wich i think is nice, if you want to save some watt on seedling/vegge stages..
 

kinddiesel

Well-Known Member
I would save my cash get a hps and mh bulb and digital ballast so you could dim it when they are small save money and get a 600 watt or use cfl can change bulbs . at least you know these will work. I still have not seen a true end result of a led grow , all the hydro stores around my house in Detroit don't even sell them, and I have 20 stores around me, they have to many returns on them , if they do sell them cost is so damn high thousands of dollars and the owners tell me not to buy them. my opinion only
 

Ilianius

Member
Kinddiesel, i was thinking these way, too. But then have tryed out 2 lights ( 1 1/2 years ago) , total was 600 watts ( dont know whats the true watt was), have get a better result then a friend whit a 600 HPS light. And i am a first timer ... . I am sure that LEDs are very good for plants, dont matter if tomatos or what ever... .
Some guys here and other forums just grow whit LEB Buls from home depot and it works... . So these shows that LED are the future. And the future is soon maybe now ; ) .


Just dont know which from the new generation lights is better.

The GEHL have fullspectrum nm and the new generation of growing light is COB and 5 Watt LEDs, so i´m thinking the GEHL lamp mix these bouth.

They also saled from secundsunlab.com of course whit profit and so on ... .

The GEHL lamp have 575 real watts, that should be enough for 4x4 but i am not sure.

The Houyi , have not so much different nm´s and also less power and no 5 watt leds but arround 140 USD cheaper... ( easier weight for shipping) But only 450w ( dont know if real or LEd watts)
 

starcraftguy1988

Well-Known Member
I would save my cash get a hps and mh bulb and digital ballast so you could dim it when they are small save money and get a 600 watt or use cfl can change bulbs . at least you know these will work. I still have not seen a true end result of a led grow , all the hydro stores around my house in Detroit don't even sell them, and I have 20 stores around me, they have to many returns on them , if they do sell them cost is so damn high thousands of dollars and the owners tell me not to buy them. my opinion only
You mean you would waste your cash with HPS and you have yet to attempt a search for a completed led grow journal because theyre are hundreds on this site, not to mention thousands on the interwebs. Ranging from the bad amateur grows to the experienced growers getting nearly 2 grams a watt with Apache techs and comparable technologies. You stick with HPS, keep buying bulbs and ballasts and fans and hoods, and we will see who spent more in the long run.

llianius, Are you for sure only getting lights from one of these manufacturers? If it were me id go with gehl because ive seen them used a few times with some success. But if you are just looking for a great led light then i would say go with apache tech or area 51, Bonsai something or another/ hans panel. Good luck, and make a journal when you get ur light(especially if you get the gehl) ive been curious about these lights. Hope it all goes well!
 

Ilianius

Member
Have allready check some other factorys, but i think only 5watt LED´s and COB Leds are interessting, the 3 Watts LED´s are soon old.

I am also worry that the lamp wouldn´t cover 4 x4 ( maybe it will) so would add some side lightning in form from WW leds bulbs or some LED floders.

Have also checked Bysen but better go to GEHL i think. Did someone have saw the NOAH 6 or 8 on a grow, yet?

So acctualy GEHL is in #1.

P.S.: I am in EU so dont matter if order from CN or USA. So better from CN, can safe money on the lamp and shippings is the same.
 

forestlv

New Member
hi llianius ,

if you want to compare the GEHL to the Houyi .

I think it depends on your final expectation.
Such as if you did not pay attention to the prices.

You may choose the large power 9x75w cob reflector design with higher Par and lux than their Gehl 575w .

But i found houyi get patent No. for the COB Integrated grow light.

But GEHL without.
 
Hi Guy´s,

few years ago had a try whit some LED lights, works well. Now i want to start again whit the new generation of lights.

Here the links : Gehl : http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/1000511341/GEHL_COB_led_grow_lights.html

Houyi : http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/923305133/high_power_450w_COB_led_grow.html

What do you think which one from them is better, my fav. is GEHL the NOAH 6 series. They have 6 COB cluster whit 30 x3W Leds and 72 pcs of 5 Watt leds.

The color spectrum from GEHL is large 11 or 12 different nm´s. View attachment 2763771 looks nice. The real watt is 575watt. +-.

We would like top use the light for 4 x 4 what do you think will be the GEHL lamp whit 575 watts enough?
The GEHL looks nice.. because of the wide spectrum but you also get the dimmer function, wich is nice the first coulpe of weeks..(save a lillte on the elec-bill.)

I know Hoyui can customize the chips, but the GEHL will properly kick ass... :)
 

Ringsixty

Well-Known Member
I have talked to both these Co. and wanted to test a COB in my grow. The only one that had a small enough unit that would fit my grow, was Houyi 150w
Probably good enough for 1 plant.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Houyi-Greenhouse-led-grow-light-indoor-outdoor-gardening-COB-Lens-grow-lighting-with-ce-fcc-rohs/1246370728.html

Plus, it was not mixed with other LEDs. So, I can see what COBs can really do by themselves.
My order will be here next week. Then it will be time to test. Never know if it is crap or good. If you don't try it yourself, you will really never know.. yah know what i mean?
If it works well, I would consider going for something bigger or another Co..
Not going to waste a lot of money on this stuff. I'm just a low budget personal medical grower.:peace:


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FranJan

Well-Known Member
^^^You guyz know those aren't COBs, right? So my question to you guyz is why would you trust a seller whose lying to you? You peeps can do what you want but you should be really wary. Especially if you're putting up 500 bucks when you could get 2 of Han's latest. Just thought I'd float that out there.

Edit: Ooops I'm not talking about what Ring60 linked to which seem to be COBs.
 

FranJan

Well-Known Member
I have talked to both these Co. and wanted to test a COB in my grow. The only one that had a small enough unit that would fit my grow, was Houyi 150w
Probably good enough for 1 plant.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Houyi-Greenhouse-led-grow-light-indoor-outdoor-gardening-COB-Lens-grow-lighting-with-ce-fcc-rohs/1246370728.html

Plus, it was not mixed with other LEDs. So, I can see what COBs can really do by themselves.
My order will be here next week. Then it will be time to test. Never know if it is crap or good. If you don't try it yourself, you will really never know.. yah know what i mean?
If it works well, I would consider going for something bigger or another Co..
Not going to waste a lot of money on this stuff. I'm just a low budget personal medical grower.:peace:


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After looking for a bit I can see they are not COBs either but SMD arrays. And there's a big difference in efficiency of COBs and SMD arrays. Sorry to be nitpickin but I don't want to see any more growers get ripped off by Chinese sellers who give a fuck all for you.
 

Ringsixty

Well-Known Member
After looking for a bit I can see they are not COBs either but SMD arrays. And there's a big difference in efficiency of COBs and SMD arrays. Sorry to be nitpickin but I don't want to see any more growers get ripped off by Chinese sellers who give a fuck all for you.
Good to know... but, the deed is done.
Well going to see what it can do. Cost was like 130 something.
I will post my findings an Pic's.

I can understand your hostility with Chinese manufactures. I have dealt with them directly during 2004 - 2009. I have been to China many times to purchasing products that are unrelated. I could tell you tales about that place, sketchy companies, good and bad. :peace:


I'm taking 1 for the Boyz.
 

Bumping Spheda

Well-Known Member
The glass lenses these multichips use will absorb a lot of light, they are so thick. Because of this their efficiency isn't the best.
 

forestlv

New Member
^^^You guyz know those aren't COBs, right? So my question to you guyz is why would you trust a seller whose lying to you? You peeps can do what you want but you should be really wary. Especially if you're putting up 500 bucks when you could get 2 of Han's latest. Just thought I'd float that out there.

Edit: Ooops I'm not talking about what Ring60 linked to which seem to be COBs.

Hi Guys ,

After searching on google . find below information.

COB

COB (Chips on Board) , is a new technology of LED packaging for LED light engine.
Multi LED chips are packaged together as one lighting module. When it light up, it looks like a lighting panel..

Why COB? --Background
LED(light emitting diode) is new technology with advantage of saving energy and very long lifespan.
But all LED light source can not be faultless especially SMD, HP, flux LED etc.
Compare to traditional lighting such as fluorescent ,HPS or MH lamp, as it is super bright in a small size, it cause uncomfortable glare.
In case of no diffused optical lens used, such LEDs usually cause glare and zebra strips . But when optical lens or cover used, it will cause light loss when LED beam pass through this lens or cover.

How COB LED Light source works
COB LED is multi chips packaged, it can 10 times more increase lighting area, so it avoid uncomfortable glare by the maximum extent.

Lightspot use small size of chips to make COB LED package.
By now, for small size chip, ?some famous LED chip manufacturer can reach 249lm/watt @ 20mA.
But big size LED chip can only reach 161lm/watt @350mA. The light efficacy decrease when chip size is bigger.
Also when LED driver increase current to LED, the light efficacy per watt is even low.

The COB with small size chips will be a trend of LED light source package.


I have tested houyi light on the 40x80cm tent with 4x75w COB plus reflector design.

It works well so far for fowering .
9x32x3w testing result.jpg1.jpg2.jpg3.jpg
 

forestlv

New Member
The GEHL looks nice.. because of the wide spectrum but you also get the dimmer function, wich is nice the first coulpe of weeks..(save a lillte on the elec-bill.)

I know Hoyui can customize the chips, but the GEHL will properly kick ass... :)

Is there anybody tested or compared GEHL LED Grow light to Houyi light under same power ?
Because i talked with 2 companies in July and find the GEHL price is 40% higher than HOUYI .

If so ,why not choose the houyi light ?
such as 1 square meter , if you use 2pcs houyi light . 1pc is 4x50w .another is 6x50w . total cost : USD400

but GEHL the 6x50w is more than USD400 .

I would like the houyi COB Integrated grow light which is more competitive and will get higher yields with 2lights .
 

Mantek

Member
Hi guys, I have gotten great results from the GEHL 720w (240x3) reflector type. Actual draw is 480w and it covers my 4x3 space perfectly. Right now i'm about 1'-2' from the canopy. I think the price is around $450. I think they make smaller panels also.
 
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