Get a Harvest Every 2 Weeks

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Maccabee

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Cary Audio used to make an excellent device called the CAD5500 "Black Box" for such things as EMI & RFI,they made 2 different models & were pretty cheap,i have one in my main system & another in the home theater.
Yeah, Cary's a cool company. If you're theater is all Cary gear, I'm jealous.

I couldn't find anything like the CAD you mentioned from them these days.

I know that the cheaper Furman units are easy to find, and (fairly) effective in terms of isolating EMI:
Furman M8X Merit Series Spike Protector from zZounds.com! [it's not just a surge protector, it's a basic power conditioner.]

Funnily, it's not great for audio purposes (they won't get rid of a nasty 60 hz hum like the better models will), but it's fine for protecting small electronics, computers, isolating/protecting grow equipment, etc. These units aren't all that much more than the heavy duty metal bodied shop model 8-outlet strips at the hardware store.

Not something that most people need to worry about, but if you have special concerns like flaky breakers, or a lot of burnt out bulbs due to dirty power it's something to consider.
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Yeah, maybe. It can't hurt, though. I have a cheaper Furman model on my HPS, as my building power is fairly dirty and tends to have a lot of voltage fluctutation and line noise. Plus, I don't want EMI from ballasts to be wreaking havoc on my computers, hifi & studio equipment, radios, etc in the next room over.
There's a lot more justification for keeping hash from the HPS out of the rest of the wiring than protecting the light from any crappy AC, that's for sure. :)

At the end of the day, an HPS light is just a big fat stinking resistor and really rather sluggish in responding to line fluctuation. It'd make a lot of heat in the inductor, but I bet you could run an HPS on a square wave.

lol yea i got lost in reading that stuff. before i do anything i will have a family member that knows how it works cause they used to work with this stuff as a job. thank you for all your help. you guys over did yourself on trying to make a "smoked out retard" understanding household wiring lol.
Good that you have access to someone who can discreetly supervise your efforts. No dope is worth dying in a house fire over.

I hope you have the magnanimity to let us poke you in the ribs from time to time. This would get really boring after a while if we couldn't have the odd tease and wisecrack. :)
 

panhead

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Yeah, Cary's a cool company. If you're theater is all Cary gear, I'm jealous.

I couldn't find anything like the CAD you mentioned from them these days.
I have a few Cary peices but my main Hifi & HT are both Mcintosh all the way,the cad5500's were made in the late 80's or very early 90's.
 

BEEFCAK3

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well i went to the breaker box and had my woman go around the house and i stayed at the box. as i flipped each switch i had her find what switch ran what and what was amp for that switch. i had 2 (20A) and 1 (15a) that was not running anything in the house, so i checked everything many times. i have the 2 20a running sperate outlets which thats all they are there for no other outlets run to them 2 (20a's) so im gonna use one of each for the lights and the other 15a for the fans and other equipment. i set-up the lights and let them run on those outlets for about 30mins i monitored the wiring "felt if it got warm or hot" which will cause a fire. they stayed chilled even with all lights on in the house. im gonna continue to check up on it for awhile to see any changes but so far so good. i made sure that all oulets i wanted to use were ok to run and i think im alright. cause i know i can run 1 light set-up on a 20a. thank you all for the help and advice you all have been great to me....one more q? how many plastic pots would be the best for the 2 1000watters and how far apart should i space them 2 lights apart from each other? any advice on that part if not thank you anyways......i have argo-sun ballast with maxwing reflectors and the bulbs are hortilux hps.
 

Maccabee

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McIntosh is very nice too. I can't afford gear like that, I get by with the nicer Yamaha and Denon stuff from the 90s, with some NAD (plus some Kenwood and TEAC stuff I'd like to replace. The Kenwood stuff never sounded great and is wearing out, and the TEAC gear sounds OK but still is not as close to real TASCAM stuff as I had hoped.)

Beefcake, if you look through the thread you should find a few different discussions of spacing plants, trays and lights.
 

BEEFCAK3

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your joking right??? yoou want me to scroll through "143 pages" to find that i would be sitting here till christmas trying to find it when somebody could just type it in a min, not taking a shot at ya. see how long it took ya to tell me to look through the thread. instead of telling me that you could of just gave me the advice it would be a lil easier for me.....
 

Maccabee

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See the "search this thread" link @ the top?

I can't help you directly because I don't have that kind of space or those kind of lights--maybe someone else will.

But--give a man a fish, feed him for a night; teach a man to fish and feed him for the rest of his life.
 

BEEFCAK3

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my grow space dimesions are 14 ft long by 8 ft wide 8 ft tall.....and thanks for the awesome analogy. to teach someone how to swim jus throw'em in the lake sink or swim....
 

1freezy

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I have been working slowly on a project like this for a couple months and I just found this post. I have 2 cabinets with 4 sections (2 a piece) for the flowering. All the plants will have suficiant light but 1 of the 4 flowering chambers will have a lot of added/extra light from all around. At what 2 week interval should the plants get the extra light. I know the whole time would be good but thats not an option.
:confused:Please anybody competent!
 

BEEFCAK3

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are your words chewy or crunchy???

But--give a man a fish, feed him for a night; teach a man to fish and feed him for the rest of his life.[/quote]
 

VictorVIcious

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Al has his lights over two tables the are 2'7" square or about 820mm I believe. Since the lights are over seperate tables you could center them over the two tables they are going to cover, uhhhhh ....I have an idea, buy some pots and set them out in the area you are considering and put your light above them and look at them. When you have it like you like it, count the pots. Thats how many will fit. VV
 

BEEFCAK3

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thanks victor. yea i was thinkin of doing 40-45 under each light with trimming 1/3 of the plant as al does it for sog....so anotherwards im gonna clone 20-25 put under 1 light and then clone then another 25 untill both lights are full, so i wwould be pullin 20-25 in every 2 weeks. thank you all for the help and advice i soaked all that into my 2 brain cells i have left hehe
 

BEEFCAK3

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my most fav part of the grow is watching them go from a seed to a beautiful bushy plant with huge colas, and ofsourse the harvest! ive not done of this size before, it gets a lil intimidating. ive been growing for 3yrs and i still learn everyday and always will. keep up the good work al !
 

BEEFCAK3

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hey does anybody have any good ideas or good experiences with nutes? i need to buy some and have not choosen yet. my grow is soil....i was lookin into advance nutrients but my past experience with nutes is fry'd roots stunted plants so i gave up on that. i know i need a ph ppm pen and when it comes time to mix theres where i screw up any advice on this would be great thanks...
 

We TaRdED

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hey does anybody have any good ideas or good experiences with nutes?
just get any hydroponic nute.... they all work!!!!

GROWFAQ

after you read that^^^^^

read this below- try and do the whole thing, that way you wont have to ask as many noob questions.... its like teaching you how to fish :D

GROWFAQ

al said he was going to be gone for a couple so i figured i would take the initiative and help a fellow RIU'er out :D
the grow FAQ should be every noobs best friend..
good luck with all your growing endevors:mrgreen:
 

cmak40

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he said hes doing soil....
go with any major supplier they are all pretty much that same and give you the same N-P-K...its opinion. i use advance nutes in my op and i use DNF in an op i share with someone. as for nute burn you dont give them full strength til about weeks 4-6.
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Originally Posted by 1freezy
I have been working slowly on a project like this for a couple months and I just found this post. I have 2 cabinets with 4 sections (2 a piece) for the flowering. All the plants will have suficiant light but 1 of the 4 flowering chambers will have a lot of added/extra light from all around. At what 2 week interval should the plants get the extra light. I know the whole time would be good but thats not an option.
:confused:Please anybody competent!
a) Please don't expect nor demand instant answers from anyone. You won't get far. Patience! Nobody here is paid to answer your queries, myself included.

b) "suficiant" light? :roll: Sounds like you're using fluoros. Fluoros emit low-intensity light. Sufficient for clones, seedlings and slow-vegging your mums, but not sufficient for flowering, at least if you want something other than sparse, fluffy buds. If you have different lighting in different phases, use your brightest lighting (remembering of course that lumens don't add- 100x 1500lm CFLs are NOT brighter than any HPS) in wk6 and after.

hey does anybody have any good ideas or good experiences with nutes? i need to buy some and have not choosen yet. my grow is soil....i was lookin into advance nutrients but my past experience with nutes is fry'd roots stunted plants so i gave up on that. i know i need a ph ppm pen and when it comes time to mix theres where i screw up any advice on this would be great thanks...
If you're planning on using hydro nutes, what's with using soil? Select a proper inert hydroponic medium for your style of grow.

If your past experience with nutes is fried plants, you're quite right- of COURSE you need a nute meter. It ain't the nutes, it's you! Moreover, you want to be fairly confident that there's NO nutrient value in whatever medium you use if you're using hydro nutes. You can't measure the nutrient strength contained in soil with your EC meter, but that nutrient value will be added to whatever strength of hydro nutes you add. Great way to burn plants.

just get any hydroponic nute.... they all work!!!!
True. Nutes is nutes for the most part. Those from larger makers will be more consistent in quality.

as for nute burn you dont give them full strength til about weeks 4-6.
Depends on what you think 'full strength' is. Plants can handle 1400ppm @ 5.8 straight out of my clonebox, where they've gotten zero nutes since they were cut off the mums. I use the same 1400ppm nute mix for all my flowering plants, from day1 of flowering to harvest.

ya, there are hydro organic nutes.... the reason i say hydro is to ensure you get all the needed micro nutrients also..
Any decent quality potting soil ought to contain enough organic NPK and (especially) micronutes to raise plants already (but will need augmentation several times before harvest). Not a good idea to use hydro nutes in soil- that nutrient strength will add to the strength of whatever nutes exist in the potting soil. If you must do this, use a nute mix no stronger than 1/4-1/2 the nute maker's recommended strength.

If you can buy potting soil, there's nothing stopping you from doing it correctly. Just buy proper inert media for hydroponics. DON'T use hydro nutes with soil. There's no advantage to using hydro nutes in soil as opposed to using good soluble fertilisers intended for soil- in fact, as said, there's plenty of disadvantages.

This being a thread about a hydro op in the hydroponics/aeroponics section of this board, this will be the limit of my comments about soil.
 
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