getawaymountain 16/17 seeders

getawaymountain

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hey getaway,everything looks awesome! would you mind telling me,how old are they after sprouting do you transplant to the 2 gallons? or how long do you keep them in the solo cups before moving to 2 gallons? id like to do this as well
from seed we wait a week at the most and the clones soon as the roots are showing i only use solo cups until seeds come up and to pluck any ones i dont like the looks of then only good plants get to be put into 2 gallon until sexed out
 

natureboygrower

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from seed we wait a week at the most and the clones soon as the roots are showing i only use solo cups until seeds come up and to pluck any ones i dont like the looks of then only good plants get to be put into 2 gallon until sexed out
thanks brother,would have never thought that.good to know.this way theyll get some nice established roots in those 2gal before going outside
 
I've been lurking on all your grow journals, and I am really blown away with how much you are able to do with only your wife helping you out! I've learned a lot too, and being in Maine with a shorter growing season, I am definitely going to be incorporating your genetics into next year's grow. Unfortunately I've already ordered and received my seeds for this year.

I'm planning on growing 40 MSNL seeds (20x critical thunder autoflower, 10x lemon OG auto, 5x white widow max auto, 5x GDP auto) along with 10 free regular AK seeds I got with the order. Plus another 60 or so white widows I got from an old dude that's been growing in Maine for 40 years.

I ordered autoflowers because I plan on putting them outside at a staggered planting schedule so I can alleviate the trimming job by doing 5 or 6 harvests instead of 1 huge motherload. The critical thunders and white widow max's are also called SUPER autos, so they will grow slightly longer but get much bigger than traditional autoflowers with a 90-100+ day life cycle. I think it will help fight the chances of mold ruining an entire crop in these humid Maine autumns.

The problem is, being 19 years old and in college I don't own any property so I have to grow on friends land with permission or on public property which are both sketchy. I do have access to a small t-5 veg room to start them. I already have 10 or 20 big blue cheese and hash plant seeds going right now. I do have 2 good clear spots/clearings so far, but I don't dare risk more than 10 plants in a spot due to paranoia and the fact it's not in the deep woods.

I might be young but it's my 3rd grow so I'm not brand new to the guerilla game. I'm a farm boy too so I know how to grow shit even though year 1 and 2 were unsuccessful.
Year 1: No research, no plan, just threw seeds in the ground and they all died after deer ripped em up.
Year 2: 13 beautiful female plants made it to September until the person whose property I was growing on (with permission of course) blew my cover after he got drunk at a party and someone stole them.
 

ruby fruit

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I've been lurking on all your grow journals, and I am really blown away with how much you are able to do with only your wife helping you out! I've learned a lot too, and being in Maine with a shorter growing season, I am definitely going to be incorporating your genetics into next year's grow. Unfortunately I've already ordered and received my seeds for this year.

I'm planning on growing 40 MSNL seeds (20x critical thunder autoflower, 10x lemon OG auto, 5x white widow max auto, 5x GDP auto) along with 10 free regular AK seeds I got with the order. Plus another 60 or so white widows I got from an old dude that's been growing in Maine for 40 years.

I ordered autoflowers because I plan on putting them outside at a staggered planting schedule so I can alleviate the trimming job by doing 5 or 6 harvests instead of 1 huge motherload. The critical thunders and white widow max's are also called SUPER autos, so they will grow slightly longer but get much bigger than traditional autoflowers with a 90-100+ day life cycle. I think it will help fight the chances of mold ruining an entire crop in these humid Maine autumns.

The problem is, being 19 years old and in college I don't own any property so I have to grow on friends land with permission or on public property which are both sketchy. I do have access to a small t-5 veg room to start them. I already have 10 or 20 big blue cheese and hash plant seeds going right now. I do have 2 good clear spots/clearings so far, but I don't dare risk more than 10 plants in a spot due to paranoia and the fact it's not in the deep woods.

I might be young but it's my 3rd grow so I'm not brand new to the guerilla game. I'm a farm boy too so I know how to grow shit even though year 1 and 2 were unsuccessful.
Year 1: No research, no plan, just threw seeds in the ground and they all died after deer ripped em up.
Year 2: 13 beautiful female plants made it to September until the person whose property I was growing on (with permission of course) blew my cover after he got drunk at a party and someone stole them.
Your trying to.get the motherload of paydays in ur first grow u need to aim for something smaller first up
And u havnt grown yet not those first two seasons a grow is a successful one and here u are trying to do a huge amount without ever having got to a drying room yet
Me ? Id forget those seeds you already have and buy 12 of getaways best mold resistant strains ...
 

GreenThumby

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Wet Ruby said.... You're better off staying small and getting a successful season under your belt. Good luck trying to trim and cure 40 plants let alone soil costs and all the labor involved. You don't even have an location let alone a place to start seedlings, you need to seriously scale down. Focus on the fundamentals and doing a few right instead of 40 wrong. Just my .02
 

DankBudzzz

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Please take the advice of the above posters. It's 100 times more work than you expect. Your destined to fail with your current plan. Autos are shit outside for the most part unless you can tend them in a greenhouse it's a waste of soil and money for what you'll get. Order some if getaway genetics and save your other seeds for indoor or after you gain more experience. I've been growing for 9 years and still consider myself a rookie to be honest. I've already got a few spots set up for a total of 20 plants and they were scouted last year. 20 hours atleast of prep work and probably 600 bucks for soil and amendments and that's only 15 gallln pots. You definitely need to step back and consider your options as I don't think failure is the only outcome. Your liable to get busted or all of your shit ripped if people know about it which it seems is the case and that's only if there's anything to harvest at the end of season. Good luck
 

getawaymountain

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Please take the advice of the above posters. It's 100 times more work than you expect. Your destined to fail with your current plan. Autos are shit outside for the most part unless you can tend them in a greenhouse it's a waste of soil and money for what you'll get. Order some if getaway genetics and save your other seeds for indoor or after you gain more experience. I've been growing for 9 years and still consider myself a rookie to be honest. I've already got a few spots set up for a total of 20 plants and they were scouted last year. 20 hours atleast of prep work and probably 600 bucks for soil and amendments and that's only 15 gallln pots. You definitely need to step back and consider your options as I don't think failure is the only outcome. Your liable to get busted or all of your shit ripped if people know about it which it seems is the case and that's only if there's anything to harvest at the end of season. Good luck
its a full time job doing what we do and i mean 7 days a week live eat and sleep thinking growing only and then its a struggle we put in some serious hours every season and it cost us 6-8 thousand bucks a season to get everything all set up and taken care of right so nothing cheap about it either our greenhouse is the main reason for success being able to start everything and take care of them and that cost a grand a month between heat and lights on top of the start up cost
 

thumper60

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its a full time job doing what we do and i mean 7 days a week live eat and sleep thinking growing only and then its a struggle we put in some serious hours every season and it cost us 6-8 thousand bucks a season to get everything all set up and taken care of right so nothing cheap about it either our greenhouse is the main reason for success being able to start everything and take care of them and that cost a grand a month between heat and lights on top of the start up cost
looking great,sounds like a nice normal household to me:weed:
 
Getaway, clones look great, and UNIFORM! In my experience, clones don't get as big. What do you say about the difference between clones and seeded plants?

By the way, that grennhouse is a BAD ASS. Very structurally sound, no wonder you keep that thing running right through the Winter. How do you keep it cool enough in the Summer? I would imagine you have a duct system in there to keep temps down on hotter days.
 

Green Bud Smurfy

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Hey all, same guy here just different name. Thank you all for the advice, I really do appreciate it. I truly recognize I haven't made it all the way through a full season yet, but I have done my homework, putting in hours of and hours of research. I will be starting a grow log this year when I really begin the grow season in mid-late April. If you are interested I would love to have all your input as I go along.

You guys mention the incredible amount of labor that gets put in between prep, propagation, and trimming. When I get out of work, I plan on working my tail off in the woods after I get out of work when every other 19-21 year old kid my age is partying, drinking and going to the beach, etc.. I have a strong back, and I lift weights all the time so I'm not too concerned with the physical stresses of digging holes, lugging bales, water and whatnot. I do that all day anyway on the farm.

As far as prep goes, my plan goes like this:
1. 40x Autoflowers get small holes (5-8 gal MAX) filled with Pro-Mix, manure topdress, rotted bark and moss for water retention and beneficial microbes, and 10-10-10 granular fertilizer as needed.
2. 60x Photos get native soil w/ tested pH in 6-7 range, supplemented with granular 10-10-10 fertilizer. Not ideal but practical and extremely cheap.
3. Water sources are close-by so no lugging through the woods
4. I failed to mention earlier that I have great spots picked out this year for the PHOTOS. It's the autos I still need to hide! Even then, I am confident in 2-3 patches for the autos. Still need a few more spots but I have a few more candidates picked out on Google Earth in remote areas near my house.

Propagation:
1. visit plants once weekly for light amounts of topping and heavy lollipopping, watering, general maintenance
2. Apply 10-10-10 fertilizer as needed throughout year. I have access to manure compost 15$ per bucket-load so hopefully I don't have to add too much synthetic nutes.
3. I also have leftover bottled nutes from last year. I'll never waste money again 20$ for 1 fox farm bloom bottle is crazy.

Security will not be so negligent year (deer and rippers were enough for me to learn). Last year was retarded I was only stolen from because my "friend" whose property I was growing on was VERY negligent in that he decided to get drunk and show a bunch of people from the wrong crowd where they were. 5 days later and they are gone! If he had just told me the next morning I could have moved them but regardless he is not my friend anymore. This year I have taken the necessary precautions in terms of security. Rippers won't be getting near me this year. I think of it this way: if you knew where a money tree was, would you show someone else or keep it to yourself? Also, plots are in clearings throughout the deep woods well off the beaten path. I am an expert animal tracker so I know how to conceal my paths and avoid other's. This ain't a backyard grow out behind the barn like it was last year.

As for my selection of genetics, we will find out as we go I suppose. If I had the money put aside, I would have gone with GetawayMountain seeds had I known put hey I didn't know he existed until just a few days ago. The 60 white widows I received for free, I have helped the guy grow them for years with no major bud rot incidents and harvests in late September (Central Maine gets first frost Sept. 30 - Oct. 7 on avg. so I should be good). For the autoflowers, I chose specific strains that are advertised to do better outdoors than indoors. They actually can be grown outdoors with great success. This guy made out like a bandit growing autos even further North than me: autoflower(dot)net/forums/threads/maximizing-outdoor-autos-guide-to-growing-under-the-sun.56402/

Ruby, I know you can't tell b/c you don't know me but don't think what I am doing is just too much confidence. I'll keep a log going if you want to follow. My drunk asshole of a friend is who screwed me over... Other than that I did everything right up till then. I've grown up around farms like I said. Other than the trimming, drying, it's not a whole lot different than tomatoes. I have plenty experience trimming and drying other's grows so I'm not worried about that part either. I understand bud rot can be an issue late in the year but I have the staggered harvest cycle w/ autos so I'll have a few chances. I'll be cutting down plants weekly starting mid July all the way through the end of September. I doubt that ALL of the grows will fail.

Anyway, that's enough of me talking about myself. Surely I will keep my updates on my own grow log, but I look forward to following this thread throughout the year.
 

ruby fruit

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Hey all, same guy here just different name. Thank you all for the advice, I really do appreciate it. I truly recognize I haven't made it all the way through a full season yet, but I have done my homework, putting in hours of and hours of research. I will be starting a grow log this year when I really begin the grow season in mid-late April. If you are interested I would love to have all your input as I go along.

You guys mention the incredible amount of labor that gets put in between prep, propagation, and trimming. When I get out of work, I plan on working my tail off in the woods after I get out of work when every other 19-21 year old kid my age is partying, drinking and going to the beach, etc.. I have a strong back, and I lift weights all the time so I'm not too concerned with the physical stresses of digging holes, lugging bales, water and whatnot. I do that all day anyway on the farm.

As far as prep goes, my plan goes like this:
1. 40x Autoflowers get small holes (5-8 gal MAX) filled with Pro-Mix, manure topdress, rotted bark and moss for water retention and beneficial microbes, and 10-10-10 granular fertilizer as needed.
2. 60x Photos get native soil w/ tested pH in 6-7 range, supplemented with granular 10-10-10 fertilizer. Not ideal but practical and extremely cheap.
3. Water sources are close-by so no lugging through the woods
4. I failed to mention earlier that I have great spots picked out this year for the PHOTOS. It's the autos I still need to hide! Even then, I am confident in 2-3 patches for the autos. Still need a few more spots but I have a few more candidates picked out on Google Earth in remote areas near my house.

Propagation:
1. visit plants once weekly for light amounts of topping and heavy lollipopping, watering, general maintenance
2. Apply 10-10-10 fertilizer as needed throughout year. I have access to manure compost 15$ per bucket-load so hopefully I don't have to add too much synthetic nutes.
3. I also have leftover bottled nutes from last year. I'll never waste money again 20$ for 1 fox farm bloom bottle is crazy.

Security will not be so negligent year (deer and rippers were enough for me to learn). Last year was retarded I was only stolen from because my "friend" whose property I was growing on was VERY negligent in that he decided to get drunk and show a bunch of people from the wrong crowd where they were. 5 days later and they are gone! If he had just told me the next morning I could have moved them but regardless he is not my friend anymore. This year I have taken the necessary precautions in terms of security. Rippers won't be getting near me this year. I think of it this way: if you knew where a money tree was, would you show someone else or keep it to yourself? Also, plots are in clearings throughout the deep woods well off the beaten path. I am an expert animal tracker so I know how to conceal my paths and avoid other's. This ain't a backyard grow out behind the barn like it was last year.

As for my selection of genetics, we will find out as we go I suppose. If I had the money put aside, I would have gone with GetawayMountain seeds had I known put hey I didn't know he existed until just a few days ago. The 60 white widows I received for free, I have helped the guy grow them for years with no major bud rot incidents and harvests in late September (Central Maine gets first frost Sept. 30 - Oct. 7 on avg. so I should be good). For the autoflowers, I chose specific strains that are advertised to do better outdoors than indoors. They actually can be grown outdoors with great success. This guy made out like a bandit growing autos even further North than me: autoflower(dot)net/forums/threads/maximizing-outdoor-autos-guide-to-growing-under-the-sun.56402/

Ruby, I know you can't tell b/c you don't know me but don't think what I am doing is just too much confidence. I'll keep a log going if you want to follow. My drunk asshole of a friend is who screwed me over... Other than that I did everything right up till then. I've grown up around farms like I said. Other than the trimming, drying, it's not a whole lot different than tomatoes. I have plenty experience trimming and drying other's grows so I'm not worried about that part either. I understand bud rot can be an issue late in the year but I have the staggered harvest cycle w/ autos so I'll have a few chances. I'll be cutting down plants weekly starting mid July all the way through the end of September. I doubt that ALL of the grows will fail.

Anyway, that's enough of me talking about myself. Surely I will keep my updates on my own grow log, but I look forward to following this thread throughout the year.
I like the time you are putting in explaining how you want to go about it and damn i must say i like your attitude u sound similar to me apart from im in my 40s now lol
Good luck lad tag me when u got a grow log ill follow.
Edit: im not a guerrilla grower i grow 3 photos in my backyard each season along with attempting small spring runs but i put down how i grow quality to everything ive learnt from guys here
Gd luck man...
Dont tell no cunt where your plants are !
 

bi polar express

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Hey all, same guy here just different name. Thank you all for the advice, I really do appreciate it. I truly recognize I haven't made it all the way through a full season yet, but I have done my homework, putting in hours of and hours of research. I will be starting a grow log this year when I really begin the grow season in mid-late April. If you are interested I would love to have all your input as I go along.

You guys mention the incredible amount of labor that gets put in between prep, propagation, and trimming. When I get out of work, I plan on working my tail off in the woods after I get out of work when every other 19-21 year old kid my age is partying, drinking and going to the beach, etc.. I have a strong back, and I lift weights all the time so I'm not too concerned with the physical stresses of digging holes, lugging bales, water and whatnot. I do that all day anyway on the farm.

As far as prep goes, my plan goes like this:
1. 40x Autoflowers get small holes (5-8 gal MAX) filled with Pro-Mix, manure topdress, rotted bark and moss for water retention and beneficial microbes, and 10-10-10 granular fertilizer as needed.
2. 60x Photos get native soil w/ tested pH in 6-7 range, supplemented with granular 10-10-10 fertilizer. Not ideal but practical and extremely cheap.
3. Water sources are close-by so no lugging through the woods
4. I failed to mention earlier that I have great spots picked out this year for the PHOTOS. It's the autos I still need to hide! Even then, I am confident in 2-3 patches for the autos. Still need a few more spots but I have a few more candidates picked out on Google Earth in remote areas near my house.

Propagation:
1. visit plants once weekly for light amounts of topping and heavy lollipopping, watering, general maintenance
2. Apply 10-10-10 fertilizer as needed throughout year. I have access to manure compost 15$ per bucket-load so hopefully I don't have to add too much synthetic nutes.
3. I also have leftover bottled nutes from last year. I'll never waste money again 20$ for 1 fox farm bloom bottle is crazy.

Security will not be so negligent year (deer and rippers were enough for me to learn). Last year was retarded I was only stolen from because my "friend" whose property I was growing on was VERY negligent in that he decided to get drunk and show a bunch of people from the wrong crowd where they were. 5 days later and they are gone! If he had just told me the next morning I could have moved them but regardless he is not my friend anymore. This year I have taken the necessary precautions in terms of security. Rippers won't be getting near me this year. I think of it this way: if you knew where a money tree was, would you show someone else or keep it to yourself? Also, plots are in clearings throughout the deep woods well off the beaten path. I am an expert animal tracker so I know how to conceal my paths and avoid other's. This ain't a backyard grow out behind the barn like it was last year.

As for my selection of genetics, we will find out as we go I suppose. If I had the money put aside, I would have gone with GetawayMountain seeds had I known put hey I didn't know he existed until just a few days ago. The 60 white widows I received for free, I have helped the guy grow them for years with no major bud rot incidents and harvests in late September (Central Maine gets first frost Sept. 30 - Oct. 7 on avg. so I should be good). For the autoflowers, I chose specific strains that are advertised to do better outdoors than indoors. They actually can be grown outdoors with great success. This guy made out like a bandit growing autos even further North than me: autoflower(dot)net/forums/threads/maximizing-outdoor-autos-guide-to-growing-under-the-sun.56402/

Ruby, I know you can't tell b/c you don't know me but don't think what I am doing is just too much confidence. I'll keep a log going if you want to follow. My drunk asshole of a friend is who screwed me over... Other than that I did everything right up till then. I've grown up around farms like I said. Other than the trimming, drying, it's not a whole lot different than tomatoes. I have plenty experience trimming and drying other's grows so I'm not worried about that part either. I understand bud rot can be an issue late in the year but I have the staggered harvest cycle w/ autos so I'll have a few chances. I'll be cutting down plants weekly starting mid July all the way through the end of September. I doubt that ALL of the grows will fail.

Anyway, that's enough of me talking about myself. Surely I will keep my updates on my own grow log, but I look forward to following this thread throughout the year.
I'm a guerrilla grower and I'm telling you its hard work friend good luck, nut up or shut up tag me in it if you do ill watch the show
 

Indica Charmer

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Yeah man, you are better off starting like 3-5 regular/fem seeds inside right now... and narrow your focus. Make sure they are early finishers as well. 3rd year guerilla grower. If you need ideas on irrigation hit me up. I use a D.C. Timer, and small fountain pumps with large totes full of water to keep them hydrated. I also use simple 23watt 6500k cfls for my veg in a small closet with 1 gallon pots to start them for a month prior to taking them out. Good luck. I remember my 1st year... only 3 plants I put in turned out female, but I harvested about 2# per!

 

Green Bud Smurfy

Active Member
Yeah man, you are better off starting like 3-5 regular/fem seeds inside right now... and narrow your focus. Make sure they are early finishers as well. 3rd year guerilla grower. If you need ideas on irrigation hit me up. I use a D.C. Timer, and small fountain pumps with large totes full of water to keep them hydrated. I also use simple 23watt 6500k cfls for my veg in a small closet with 1 gallon pots to start them for a month prior to taking them out. Good luck. I remember my 1st year... only 3 plants I put in turned out female, but I harvested about 2# per!
Looks pretty badass dude. You say DC is that a car battery or something hooked up to a pump?

And yes I have like 10 going almost a week old right now under t-5's in my most trusted person on earth's house right now
 
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Indica Charmer

Active Member
Yep, or something like a Sealed led acid (sla) battery. I use the smaller 7ah batteries... that way you can take one with you when you visit the site, and easily switch them out upon checking voltages.
 

getawaymountain

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Getaway, clones look great, and UNIFORM! In my experience, clones don't get as big. What do you say about the difference between clones and seeded plants?

By the way, that grennhouse is a BAD ASS. Very structurally sound, no wonder you keep that thing running right through the Winter. How do you keep it cool enough in the Summer? I would imagine you have a duct system in there to keep temps down on hotter days.
i got 14000 cfm of air going thru the greenhouse from 2 big exhaust fans in the back of greenhouse and 2 4ftx4ft air intake vents so it keeps it the same temp as outside air temp no problem right now on the sunny days it gets 90 degrees real fast and we just open door and have a temp control automatic controller on fans also i like growing from seed the clones are for other growers that get them every spring from us
 

Green Bud Smurfy

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i got 14000 cfm of air going thru the greenhouse from 2 big exhaust fans in the back of greenhouse and 2 4ftx4ft air intake vents so it keeps it the same temp as outside air temp no problem right now on the sunny days it gets 90 degrees real fast and we just open door and have a temp control automatic controller on fans also i like growing from seed the clones are for other growers that get them every spring from us
That's a lot of air... I used to install duct actually.. I'd like your comment if I could lol, but still need like 2 more likes before I can even be a full time member with all the privileges!
 
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