Tone5500
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Gotcha that's my plan to train durning strech .. Thanx
Getting to One gram pre watt
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Budley Doright
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I agree totally with the plant numbers and I veg for 20 days typically. I guess its just how things are worded that may be confusing.
Budley Doright
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Actually I was talking about the same veg period, which is typically 21 days. The extra plants seemed to really crowd the whole lot. I tend not to do much training but found with 6 there wasnt any room to train lol.
Carolina Dream'n
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Go for it. Always willing to help those who actually want to learn.
I lst my plants on a trellis nets after the first 4 days of flowers. Train them to grow horizontally for the time it takes to fill screen, usually takes about 10 days. From day 14-21 let them just grow, no training other than keeping canopy even.
I did one in a undercurrent system. The buckets will about an inch apart (just enough for grommets and pipe). It was a 54 site over 4k. Yielded great but was a lot more work and worry than my flood and drain. If your comfortable with it, it can work, it was really expensive to set up a large enough system to do a SOG in though.
Tone5500
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Your flood and drain you plant in tub or individual and if individual what size and matural you use
Greenhouse;save
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Here's a pic of one way to get an even canopy.............fimming....have a look..... all the lowers have came up to meet the 4 New tops making it 8 well established tops......4 were successfully fimmed the outher 2 were just topped.......
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Greenhouse;save
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That's why I have asked for your help.......I have been thinking about this method for a while now........quality wise will it be up to par with a plant that has been vegged for say 4-6 weeks???
Carolina Dream'n
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Individual. 6 liter 7 inch white square pots with Sunleaves rocks.
Carolina Dream'n
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No difference in quality.
Greenhouse;save
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Tone the usual size is 2inch square.........1 inch is a bit small as the plant progresses the space will not allow you to thread anything bigger than an inch through the gap........just my op by the way I have never seen a 1inch square Scrog.........
Greenhouse;save
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Cut the centre mesh out and you can have your 2+2.......I've done this with a net the same dimensions as yours.......and........it took me fkn ages......but it did work....not used it yet but I do plan to in the near future.......
Tone5500
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Thanx I do that GONNA give it anthor day to see if it having problems getting threw the net ..
Trippyness
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Debatable. Give the plants what it needs at the times it needs it.
Giving it 20 differant AN products will not help.
Just a gimmick.
Blue Planet Nutrients is my prefered Nutrient blend.
Use a PPM meter and make sure you are giving it what Mel Frank believes is what plants need.
Greenhouse;save
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Less is more.....is how I do it......I use the biobzz line-up at half the recommended dose and it keeps mine going then some plagron pk 13/14(because u can use it right up until harvest).I am currently looking into using mycorrhiza but after reading a few discussions I've found myself debating whether or not to buy it.......the general consensus is that a CONDITIONED soil should have ALL the myco in it and introducing a foreign myco could conflict with the original myco already in your soil so I'm on the fence about it.....
Tone5500
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Eh I'm thinking of going to flood and drain for this next batch . In a SOG type style , I would have to use a 4x2 table how big of rez and number of plants would you recommend??
ghb
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the bigger the yield generally the lower the quality. unless you have done something wrong.
i have had 1.4gpw in a horizontal set up with no co2, overcrowding meant i was battling pm and the lower stuff was quite fluffy.
when i get around 0.8gpw every single bud is dense and resinous, it makes for a more consistent product not having the plants all touching each other in the canopy.
if you aren't getting at least 4 harvests a year out of the same flower room then you are are going to struggle to get max yield per year which is how i feel a successful gardener should be judged.
i have one garden(2400w) that does 3 harvests per year of large plants and each harvest is big but i have another garden that runs less wattage (1800w) but because i can make it produce four times in 12 months it actually beats the performance of the bigger flower room.
the easiest way i could fill your space seeing as it is wide but shallow would be 2x 600w cooltubes with two rows of 8 plants in 2 gal pots (coco) 2-4 weeks veg and if you can't hit a gram per watt i would be very surprised, as mentioned earlier genetics can make your life very easy but i also feel that any genetics can yield given the proper treatment.
i have had 1.4gpw in a horizontal set up with no co2, overcrowding meant i was battling pm and the lower stuff was quite fluffy.
when i get around 0.8gpw every single bud is dense and resinous, it makes for a more consistent product not having the plants all touching each other in the canopy.
if you aren't getting at least 4 harvests a year out of the same flower room then you are are going to struggle to get max yield per year which is how i feel a successful gardener should be judged.
i have one garden(2400w) that does 3 harvests per year of large plants and each harvest is big but i have another garden that runs less wattage (1800w) but because i can make it produce four times in 12 months it actually beats the performance of the bigger flower room.
the easiest way i could fill your space seeing as it is wide but shallow would be 2x 600w cooltubes with two rows of 8 plants in 2 gal pots (coco) 2-4 weeks veg and if you can't hit a gram per watt i would be very surprised, as mentioned earlier genetics can make your life very easy but i also feel that any genetics can yield given the proper treatment.
Carolina Dream'n
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Personally a 40 gallon, but that probably won't work well under a 2x4 considering it's bigger than the tray. So a 20, you'll have to top off atleast once a week. I would do 18 plants vegged for about 5 days.
Tone5500
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Can you send me to the link you use to buy your pots please