"Give us your poor"

Jimdamick

Well-Known Member
Not anymore.

Trump has unveiled his latest immigration policy, and as you can imagine, it sucks. In a move that should leave little doubt as to the core mission of his administration’s immigration reform campaign, he is attempting make it easier to deny people visas or green cards for being poor.

Announced yesterday, Trump's latest policy enables a new aspect to the review process for green card and citizenship applications: essentially implementing a system where applicants would be “sized up” based on their wealth and financial resources, health, education and English-language proficiency. Specifically, it dictates that evaluators should consider whether an applicant has used government assistance programs. This will target and punish legal immigrants who use safety net programs like SNAP, Medicaid, or government-subsidized housing.

According to acting US Citizenship and Immigration Services director Ken Cuccinelli, the new policy – which is scheduled to go into effect in 60 days – is aimed at “reinforcing the ideals of self-sufficiency and personal responsibility.

The main takeaway, though, is simple: it’s an obvious tactic to weed out “undesirables”. To pick and choose who is permitted to pursue a path to citizenship, and who doesn’t make the cut. To echo a refrain chanted at recent Trump rallies, it’s an officially sanctioned way to “send them back.”

This aligns nicely with Trump’s focus on keeping out immigrants from Mexico, Central America, and other regions with poor populations of predominantly people of color.

By giving priority to those who are wealthy and well-educated, the odds will skew heavily in favor of those who hail from richer and predominantly white regions. When giving examples of immigrants he’d welcome, Trump generally references European countries, such as Norway.

But this move targets legal immigrants who have followed the rules and gone through the proper channels to seek green cards or citizenship status, dramatically

This policy will force people into a cruel dilemma: if they forego benefits for which they are legally entitled in order to avoid risking their chances are permanent citizenship, they will likely suffer and struggle to survive. But if they opt to use those benefits, they could put their future as a US citizen in jeopardy. For many it will be a no-win situation, so their fucked. But that's the point, right?

Cuccinelli said that this policy would affect roughly 400,000 people a year, whose applications for a green card or permanent citizenship will now include a “meaningful analysis of whether they are likely to become a public charge.” Immigration advocates say the real impact could be much larger, with the policy easily being used in a broader way that could have ramifications for millions of current or future immigrants.

It is sad that the path to American citizenship may now be based on a system that that contradicts the words which are engraved on the Statue of Liberty, our most iconic symbol of national welcoming: “give me your tired, your poor…your homeless.”

Oh well, it was nice while it lasted, like the basic principals upon which this country was founded and made it a source of hope for the world, and it really did provide hope, until Trump came along.

Now all we have is a big pile of shit that is getting larger everyday that he is in office.

I just hope we survive him.
 

Rob Roy

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forego benefits for which they are legally entitled
Where in the U.S. constitution are "entitlement programs" authorized ?

If there is a constitutional authorization, how does something written down by old dead slave keeping white guys hundreds of years ago create an obligation for people today to fulfill?
 

abandonconflict

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Where in the U.S. constitution are "entitlement programs" authorized ?
Article 1, Section 8.
If there is a constitutional authorization, how does something written down by old dead slave keeping white guys hundreds of years ago create an obligation for people today to fulfill?
I can see how you would use this same argument to oppose civil rights and child sexual consent laws.

You suck and you should feel bad.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
Article 1, Section 8.

I can see how you would use this same argument to oppose civil rights and child sexual consent laws.

You suck and you should feel bad.
So, if people who aren't "of the United States" try to enter the United States, what you're saying is the United States should defend against that ?

Also, you failed to answer the second question. You should feel bad about believing in fairy tales.
 

Moses Mobetta

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It's way more than just him that's the problem. Fucking up this country seems to be the primary purpose of the entire Republican party. Newt Gingrich was a complete piece of shit, Mitch McConnell, that Eddie Munster look alike Paul Ryan and on and on. People who support these fuckers are the problem too. Never did I think the day would come where we would face such a classless bunch of shitheads as the current administration. It is unbelievable to me how anyone would continue to support them. People with Union jobs continue to support them and one of their platforms is destruction of the Unions. They seem intent on the destruction of everything this country has stood for. Vote Republicans out
 

Smokesteve

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Poor, uneducated, unskilled people who are going to immediately need public assistance. Why the fuck would anybody want these people coming to the United States of America.
 

Jimdamick

Well-Known Member
Vote Republicans out
It's coming bro, don't you worry.
I really have faith that with Trump at the helm, with his obnoxious behaviors that have shown a spotlight on the GOP's corrupt nature and it failure to accomplish anything positive, except increase the wealth of the wealthy, (which is the only thing seemingly they are good at) will fuck them in the upcoming elections.
There's no disputing the facts, and those facts are that Republicans are a destructive force that needs to be reckoned with, and the Independent voters are going to be their downfall in 2020, not nesseceraly the Dems.
The Pub's should be fucked in 2020, if there's any moral compass left in this Nation.
 

Jimdamick

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Poor, uneducated, unskilled people who are going to immediately need public assistance. Why the fuck would anybody want these people coming to the United States of America.
How did your ancestors arrive in the US?
What was their social status?
From what country?
I'm just curious.
 

BurtMaklin

Well-Known Member
Lol, thread after thread of people railing against "socialized health care" the middle class will have to pay for, now you're mad because Trump wants to stop emigrating people based on expensive health issues the middle class will have to pay for.

Do you clowns even see the hypocrisy?
 

Rider101

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Lol, thread after thread of people railing against "socialized health care" the middle class will have to pay for, now you're mad because Trump wants to stop emigrating people based on expensive health issues the middle class will have to pay for.

Do you clowns even see the hypocrisy?
And can you not see what you are?

Under Trump far fewer people want to come to the States even as tourists. Really why would anyone leave Nations where health care is covered to a place where poor sick people are left to die in agony? I guess Trump is not the only American who lacks empathy.
 
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