Lol, thread after thread of people railing against "socialized health care" the middle class will have to pay for, now you're mad because Trump wants to stop emigrating people based on expensive health issues the middle class will have to pay for.
Do you clowns even see the hypocrisy?
We pay for it already.
Well, you don't of course as you don't have a job. But those of us gainfully employed already pay for it. We pay for it our entire working lives but we can't use it until we're 65. It comes out of every paycheck you ever get.
What Medicare was supposed to be was a retirement plan. The money was supposed to be untouched by the government and invested in savings bonds to gain an annual return.
But Richard Nixon needed a way to pay for the Vietnam war, so he started using all that Social Security money as part of the annual budget. Republicans have been complaining about Medicare going broke ever since. Oddly, they're the ones that use the money for wars we have no business fighting to maintain kickbacks and slush funds of the military industrial complex they created.
But I digress...
All medicare for all would do is increase the FICA tax a good bit. Numbers vary, but the general consensus is that FICA would take somewhere between 5% to 8% of your income each check.
Now, that sounds like a lot, but it isn't comparatively. Here's some basic math for you to give you a better illustration:
The average individual health care plan in the United States right now costs about 500 dollars per month and comes with a 5,000 dollar deductible. You have co-pays on everything as well: doctor's visits, prescriptions, dental visits, etc.
So in premiums alone, they typical American pays 6,000 dollars per year for health insurance.
IF he never, ever uses it.
The average household income in the U.S. is 59,000 dollars. The bad news is that household income is calculated by combining all sources of income in that house. So if you're a husband wife team or roommates which is the case most of the time, then you can figure the average individual income is actually 29,500 - we'll be kind and round it off to 30,000 dollars.
Now, making only 30,000 dollars, the typical American doesn't have any exemptions except for themselves. That means they're going to lose roughly 15% of that income to taxes, give or take.
So that leaves them in the end with right at 25,500 dollars.
By the time you figure the average rent, which is 1,400 dollars per year in the U.S. (divide that by two for this example) you pay 700 per month or 8,400 per year.
The average person can survive on 150 dollars of groceries per week. There's another 1,800 dollars per year.
So then you figure 150 per month for power. There's another 1,800 per year.
So, as we sit right now, the average American has spent 12,000 dollars for a place to live with a spouse/roomate, food to eat and electricity.
That leaves the average American just 13,500 dollars for everything else.
Car? Insurance alone is 1,500 per year on average. As if that weren't bad enough, the average American spends 4,416 dollars per year on gasoline.
So now you're down to just 7,584 dollars left.
So now let's go back and pay for that health insurance. Guess what?
You're now down to just 1,584 dollars to last you for the entire year. So if you do actually get sick, go to a doctor and have to pay out of pocket just one time, you're bankrupt.
So now you can see why at present roughly 45 million Americans do not have any sort of health insurance at all.
Now we back up to medicare for all. Remember all those taxes you paid in the beginning? Here's what is going to happen: Rather than having to pay 6,000 dollars per year for your own health care plan that comes with 5,000 dollar deductibles and all that crazy shit, you are going to pay an additional 2,100 dollars in taxes and get medicare.
Medicare has no deductible. It also dictates the price that hospitals can charge for anything. For instance: a heart bypass operation will cost someone with no insurance about 190,000 dollars. If you have a private carrier, the insurance company will negotiate that price down to around 70,000 dollars or so. But you have a 5,000 dollar deductible and the typical plan only pays 80%, so you'll be on the hook for 19,000 dollars of that bill.
Medicare would pay somewhere around 39,000 dollars for the same procedure. Medicare pays a straight 80%, there are no deductibles. So you go out of pocket 7,800 dollars, or roughly 59%
LESS.
That is why republicans don't want medicare for all. Take a good look at who runs the insurance, drug companies and hospitals around the U.S. They're all republicans. If they pass medicare for all, they'll lose billions upon billions of dollars in profits overnight.
So before you go off on who pays for what, it would behoove you to get a job, pay for your own insurance, then talk to some folks that actually use medicare, look at the price differences and do some basic math.
I know that's asking more of you than you've ever done in your life, but give it a go.
