Global Warming is a Myth, Rush Limbaugh said so!!!

Doer · Jan 10, 2014

Well, where is the model if you disagree?. Now don't say Venus.

A model that will show THE Greenhouse Effect.

We know a greenhouse gets hot. We know we can do demos in glass ware.

Model it.

HA HA. Ya see, if we can't produce it on a planetary weather model with the Compute Farms we use everyday, Earth scale Greenhouse Effect is not real.

An effect can be shown. But, not THE GLOBAL EFFECT. Big difference. That is why it is not a science, see4. So, un-think the backwards.

I never said a science could become a religion. What becomes the religion is the never duplicated vision, the Sagan Dream, now understood only by the mind fucked.

What becomes religion are things like Scientology, right? It never was science, so that is my point.

Beefbisquit · Jan 10, 2014

Doer said:
What do you mean by confirmed? How did they do that? Describe the process. I say they have not. I say this has not been confirm either way.

It is you, not they, that are the shadow puppet. Name a prominent name and tell me how they confirmed it. No one will say that.

And why are you pee-pee dancing around the model question?

By measuring the temperatures at various point all over the world over for 160 years, by taking ice core samples, by using various satellites to measure the energy entering and leaving the atmosphere, by measuring the increase in C02 in our atmosphere......

All of this has already been posted in various scientific journals aready in this thread. If you're too lazy to go back and read them that's your problem, not mine. You can be ignorant until your heart is content, it doesn't make you right.

Doer · Jan 10, 2014

So. Did you or did you not read the Berkeley Report on Land Surface Temperature?

Doer · Jan 10, 2014

You cannot prove a Greenhouse effect with all that poop you posted. I am very familar with it all. You are not. You don't read the raw feeds.

Beefbisquit · Jan 10, 2014

Doer said:
You cannot prove a Greenhouse effect with all that poop you posted. I am very familar with it all. You are not. You don't read the raw feeds.

Well, you and mainstream science will have to disagree. You're some schmuck on the internet pretending to be a climatologist, the links I posted are from ACTUAL climatologists, geologists, physicists, etc., etc.,

So continue your delusion and denial to your hearts content. It really makes no difference to me, or the effects on the earth.

NLXSK1 · Jan 10, 2014

cannabineer said:
The politics of global warming are fraught.
The science of climate change is emerging. The models will catch up with the steadily-increasing (in amount and length of baseline) of data.
I find it striking and a bit fearsome that the amount of CO2 put into the atmosphere by burning fossil reserves is correlating closely with the rise in atmospheric pCO2. That suggests that the clearance mechanism is near or at saturation, at least at the less-than-centuries timescale. The very tightly-correlated graph of pCO2 v. global temperature suggests we're in for consequential warming.

i also disagree with Doer on a key point: I think the greenhouse gas phenomenon is real and does not depend on speculative modeling to be revealed. Greenhouse effect is not exclusive to our atmosphere; it is demonstrable on other worlds in the Solar system and on smaller local models/experimental rigs. Taking a narrower focus, the debate is about the magnitude of the greenhouse effect being caused by the <pCO2 in our own atmosphere. The error bars are large, but they will tighten up with more data and better-built models. I posit that both extremes, shouting doom and dismissing the whole thing, are a toss of the baby with the bathwater.

If you believe that I am one of the latter people you have not been reading very carefully.

cannabineer · Jan 10, 2014

NLXSK1 said:
If you believe that I am one of the latter people you have not been reading very carefully.

Nonetheless you seem to dismiss the phenomenon of global warming under the heading of lambasting the politics of same. That is the impression I get when you decry the "religion".

Aside from politico-social periphera, what do you think is happening in terms of the global climate, and what do you imagine/believe the trend will be for the next, oh, century?

Doer · Jan 10, 2014

Beefbisquit said:
Well, you and mainstream science will have to disagree. You're some schmuck on the internet pretending to be a climatologist, the links I posted are from ACTUAL climatologists, geologists, physicists, etc., etc.,

So continue your delusion and denial to your hearts content. It really makes no difference to me, or the effects on the earth.

Show the computer model, smarty pants.

Doer · Jan 10, 2014

Oh, the Berkeley report? You didn't read it, did you? Sit back down.

NLXSK1 · Jan 10, 2014

cannabineer said:
Nonetheless you seem to dismiss the phenomenon of global warming under the heading of lambasting the politics of same. That is the impression I get when you decry the "religion".

Aside from politico-social periphera, what do you think is happening in terms of the global climate, and what do you imagine/believe the trend will be for the next, oh, century?

As I have already clearly stated. It does not matter what the trend will be.

We need to focus on adaptation to a world that has demonstrable differences in average temperature over significant periods of time.

UncleBuck · Jan 10, 2014

NLXSK1 said:
And you call me an idiot? Lulz....

you said that forest fires cause global cooling.

if the clown shoe fits, you must wear it.

echelon1k1 · Jan 10, 2014

when is RIU going to get rid of this rat fuck?

UncleBuck · Jan 10, 2014

NLXSK1 said:
scientists have created multiple MODELS of what they thing is happening and NONE of the data has matched their hypothesis.

i've been waiting for months for muyloco to cite this very same claim, he refuses to because it is a demonstrably false claim that only idiots like you and him would make.

but i really shouldn't expect much from an easily duped partisan hack who falls for the skewed polls nonsense and then wants us to believe he's right about a much more complex issue like global warming.

UncleBuck · Jan 10, 2014

NLXSK1 said:
CO2 is not related to a corresponding heat change.

just give up you fucking idiot.

not a single thing you say has any basis in reality in any way shape or form.

UncleBuck · Jan 10, 2014

Doer said:
What is stupid is the tortured statistical math that you cannot follow, that produced this chart in the first place. Bad data and bad technique.

you got duped into falling for the skewed polls theory.

leave this debate.

UncleBuck · Jan 10, 2014

Doer said:
there is no link to CO2 and warming at all.

UncleBuck · Jan 10, 2014

NLXSK1 said:
Global Warming is not a science either. It is a religion based on redistribution of wealth.

says the guy quoting roy spencer, a creationist who takes an evangelical pledge on the issue.

clown. shoes.

UncleBuck · Jan 10, 2014

NLXSK1 said:
If you believe that I am one of the latter people you have not been reading very carefully.

i literally have you on record saying that the earth is cooling.

why do you feel like you can just lie through your teeth like this, you child?

UncleBuck · Jan 10, 2014

NLXSK1 said:
As I have already clearly stated. It does not matter what the trend will be.

you have already stated that the earth is cooling, forest fires cause global cooling, iran is landlocked, alberta is domestic, blacks only vote for half black democrats, and all the polls were skewed.

just stop. for your own sake, just stop embarrassing yourself.