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GMO vs ECSD

Craigson

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What is everyone's favorite GMO cut or cross? I grew out Oni's Tropsanto and was very impressed. Holding more Tropsantos and a pack of Cowboy cookies (gmo x stardawg). Looking towards Solfire's Don Mega.
Theres only one GMO cut which skjnkflex found and named.
The strain is chem cookies. The flowers were called GMO cookies at one time.
Its amazing in every way- potency, yield, vigor, stank.
Pics below werent even a good run.
11-12 wks flower time.

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CoB_nUt

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Theres only one GMO cut which skjnkflex found and named.
The strain is chem cookies. The flowers were called GMO cookies at one time.
Its amazing in every way- potency, yield, vigor, stank.
Pics below werent even a good run.
11-12 wks flower time.

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The "Real Sour D" pictures. I'm familiar with the GMO backstory and how it looks.
This is if you are responding to my quote. If not,disregard.
 

CoB_nUt

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So,I read the whole linked thread...all 33 pages.
Still no real consensus. I did learn,which I suspected, I'm running my cut in warmer temps than she desires. Also,that AJ's cut is the same as Chacos. There are some nice pics of her.I'm definitely happy I got a legit cut to play with and dial in.
Gonna try to find that Chaco thread now.
 

CoB_nUt

Well-Known Member
Honestly this in not the forum to find legit pictures of cuts like icmag is. Rollitup is nice place to shoot shit and meet lots of people but back 10 years ago icmag was where the big boys played, unfortunately it has slowed down over there in my opinion.
Indeed. This I know. I quoted that member aking for pics or a link just for companions sake,being that he/she seemed to know about "Real Sour D".
 

dannyboy6

Member
Honestly this in not the forum to find legit pictures of cuts like icmag is. Rollitup is nice place to shoot shit and meet lots of people but back 10 years ago icmag was where the big boys played, unfortunately it has slowed down over there in my opinion.
Your right about IC. It’s turning into a political shit show. More talk about fucked up political crap and non growing ignorance than growing of late since gypsy started allowing that shit. After a couple years chasing it finally got a verified cut of Chaco’s ECSD. Getting ready to put it in the tent for veg along side what I think is a fake I got from strainly. Plus the word “strainly” is not allowed over there. Even in PM’s it will scramble the word.
 

booms111

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Your right about IC. It’s turning into a political shit show. More talk about fucked up political crap and non growing ignorance than growing of late since gypsy started allowing that shit. After a couple years chasing it finally got a verified cut of Chaco’s ECSD. Getting ready to put it in the tent for veg along side what I think is a fake I got from strainly. Plus the word “strainly” is not allowed over there. Even in PM’s it will scramble the word.
i got a fake ECSD from Strainly also, ended up being GG4. So i got a fake ECSD, fake GMO, barely alive Chem D i had to nurse for months, virused dud Gushers and one good Wedding Cake. With that said i avoid Strainly now.
 

dannyboy6

Member
i got a fake ECSD from Strainly also, ended up being GG4. So i got a fake ECSD, fake GMO, barely alive Chem D i had to nurse for months, virused dud Gushers and one good Wedding Cake. With that said i avoid Strainly now.
Can you say where you got them ?
 

dannyboy6

Member
I got a couple other things from Pink Box but the fake chaco came from someone else. I spend a lot of time and effort at IC and have quite a few posts in THAT thread. I asked probably, hat in hand politely, about a dozen members who seemed to have the chops to have a real cut as they claimed. I finally got someone to cut me some slack from MA and he sent me 4 other things I was not expecting at all as well. I got lucky and struck gold so far as I know. Time will tell.
 

dannyboy6

Member
So,I read the whole linked thread...all 33 pages.
Still no real consensus. I did learn,which I suspected, I'm running my cut in warmer temps than she desires. Also,that AJ's cut is the same as Chacos. There are some nice pics of her.I'm definitely happy I got a legit cut to play with and dial in.
Gonna try to find that Chaco thread now.
I have been reading this thread trying to learn all I can since one of my surprise cuts with the Chaco’s cut IS a GMO and I hope to grow it out sometime next spring when I have time and space. However the part about Chaco’s being the same as AJ’s according to Chaco is that they are NOT the same cut if you read through it and other posts over there. He admits it’s probably from a batch of seeds from rez and related to AJ’s but not the same cut. I don’t live in that part of the country and only gleaned that after reading about and chasing the Chaco’s cut for a couple years at least. Then again I could be completely wrong. So much stuff gets spread about the sought after clone only strains it’s hard to know what is true. He is still there using different names.
 

Patriots781

Active Member
Hey I'm trying to decide now whether to chose the tropsanto or the sour d x trop cookies which would you chose for quality flower?
 

quiescent

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Sour d x trop cookies all day, you've got a chance at a better plant than with gmo in this particular cross. I don't think gmo combines well with the fruitier strains, might just be my taste but I'd rather have fruity gas than fruity funk.

It'll have the same level of bag appeal visually but the smells will be layered and play better than gmo. Extracts with sour d are insane as well, people don't know till they try.
 

Dividedsky

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I'm not a huge fan of some of the gmo I have grown lately. It's very leggy, with a bit of stretch, I have found that it's stalks and stem shoots tend to be thin. The bud came out great with the garlic breath I recently ran but it lacked the gmo nose I was looking for.
 
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Joeybliss

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GMO has a 12 week flower time
I argue this all day with friends that are bud tenders. I’m like GMO cut from sky master flex hunted from mamikos chem cookies x forum cut takes12 weeks easy while mt garlic cookie cut which also hunted from same S1s from mamiko seeds is done 70 days. Its crazy how people don’t understand the phenos and environmental effects on all cuts
 

Joeybliss

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never was a fan of sour d, or it's variants.

id pick GMO for taste/smoke, but no experience growing it.

i did grow long valley royal kush from aficionado, and he crossed ECSD into it a few times. ran it outdoor, it was stinky af, squat and dense, trichy. I just didn't like it, but everyone who loves sourd d was about it.
Grow it. !! That and GG4 is all I grow outdoors anymore and indoors aswell but my OG cut just can’t take the humidity off my climate it get pm 1foot away from the glue that has none and is vigorously growing then after u fight that u end up pulling early cause of boytritus. Some cuts can go in and out mist are breed under artificial light and grow better with artificial lighting
 

GWilliamsCannabis

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Id go with ECSD.

They're about the same flowering time, ECSD may go a bit longer.

ECSD imo has better flavor of sour/gas

GMO when grown to perfection tastes very garlic-like and then the flavor is a toss up, not grown to perfection can taste like straight up body odor which imo is not a desired flavor.

Potency ECSD gets your mind racing where your bones feel like jumping outta your skin.

GMO is more relaxing, but does sometimes have a sativa kick to it.

Imo, that makes ECSD more desirable.

Ecsd high lasts longer imo and it isn't that close in that aspect.

Only spot id say GMO wins is the look of the bud, but that's debatable as well.
 
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