GMO yeast producing thc and cbd

Chris Edward

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I don’t think anyone can predict the effect of something this different. I am sure that the corporate world will try to wring anything of value out of this and slap a restrictive patent on the product or process or parts of a process. Then once it is exclusively owned many different eventualities are possible.

Another thought; bootlegged yeast could be the hottest thing on the Black Market. Could give a new meaning to Perpetual Grow!
Look at how good they have wrung out the insulin market, with patent after patent and each time they re-patent it the cost skyrockets, yet companies like Eli Lilly & Co. boast about how cheap it is now to produce, thanks to genetic engineering.
Sound familiar?

So why then is insulin like $400 a bottle now that it is so much cheaper to produce?

I am sure Big Pharma and the FDA have plans to keep all cannabinoids tied up in patents and FDA approved drugs for as long as they can.
To prove my point Marinol (patent #US8324408B2), synthetic THC, which was patented in 2005 hasn't even had it's patent lapse yet and as of 2017 they are already setting it up to be re-patented as a medication for sleep apnea. It is currently in FDA trials on it's way to FDA approval... Thus continuing the perpetual patents of THC...

The same will happen with Epidiolex (patent #US9474726B2), CBD for the treatment of seizures, which was patented in 2017.

Big Pharma and the FDA have no plans to let up their control of cannabinoids any time soon.

Despite hemp and CBD "technically" being legal in the U.S now, look at what's going on in New York.
Looking at both sides of this story, on one side people are being way too loose with how they are using CBD (and claiming it can cure just about anything) and on the other the FDA is protecting Big Pharma.

Notice how when the FDA "cracks down" on someone adding CBD to foods or selling a CBD tincture marketed to pets with epilepsy, it is never because they are making health claims about it helping with seizures or epilepsy, this is because CBD is FDA approved for use in treating epilepsy, but they will "crack down" on those selling it for pretty much anything else.
 
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Chris Edward

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Makes me feel like I oughta dust off the ol' innoculation loop....Might even have a pack of sterile petri dishes stashed away from the freelance mycology experiments, back in my reckless days before the turn of the century....
There's a guy who sells a CRISPR kit online, genetic engineering "technically" isn't illegal as long as you stay within the guidelines (don't go cloning humans).

The kit now costs $159 (the video says $140).
http://www.the-odin.com/diy-crispr-kit/

In the video, Josiah Zayner, the dude who makes the kits actually mentions genetically modifying yeast (for beer making), but the general concept is the same in theory, although infinitely more complicated in reality.

 
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Chris Edward

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Hundreds of millions of years for the delicate balance of nature to evolve life to work in harmony and we think we can genetically alter it overnight and think there will be no long term effects. Stupid humans.
I love when people compare genetic engineering to hybridizing and try to say it's the same thing, only faster and more specific...
In Theory...

But that theory rarely translates smoothly into reality.

I always think of it like dominoes, when we edit we can easily miss connections and leave gaps that later fall flat, when nature does the editing, there are no gaps.

To be honest, my biggest concern with GMO's isn't the simple protein modifications that are being done, but the obscene amounts of pesticides being used on them both while growing and to help with processing. Specifically the use of glyphosate as a crop desiccant is troubling because it remains on the final product.

You can argue both sides of the GM issue, but the fact remains we honestly don't know the long term side effects and sadly by the time we do it will be too late to do anything about it, except double down and bio-hack the perfect human.
What could go wrong!

Look at DDT, this was "safe" as well, until it wasn't.

In the late 1940's and 1950's DDT was considered safe and it was sprayed on everything (including children) to try and kill mosquitoes thought to be carrying polio. Little did they realize that by spraying the DDT it only caused polio rates to double...
Here's a video of children being fumigated with DDT fog.



Just because we don't know something is bad at the time, doesn't magically make it not bad.
 
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