Gnats! Wanna sterilize soil

mattman089

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That's the stuff, Bt-i targets most double winged flies.
Other varieties are mostly for outdoor, different bugs.
  • Bt israelensis takes out insects of the order diptera (two-winged “true flies”). The israelensis strain has been instrumental in fighting mosquitoes, black flies, and fungus gnat larvae.
  • Bt aizawai targets lepidoptera (butterflies and moths). This strain is used in honeycombs to fight off wax moth larvae.
  • Bt kurstaki is another lepidoptera fighter. It hones in on the population of gypsy moth, hornworm, cabbage worm or cabbage looper, tent caterpillar, spruce budworm, and many other common leaf-eating caterpillars and vegetable pests.
  • Bt san diego and Bt tenebrionis will take out certain coleoptera (beetles). These types come into play when battling the elm leaf beetle and Colorado potato beetle on potatoes, tomatoes, eggplants, or elms.
  • Bacillus popilliae kills off Japanese beetles with milky spore disease. It was the first botanical Bt product developed for commercial use.
How do you use this?? Seems like this is for huge amounts of water lolol

I just received some from Amazon today. Is it just a water solution ration and water it in??

This stuff is not going to leach into the plant and be smoked right? Haha I would assume not considering it’s being posted in the organic section haha
 

F_T_P!

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How do you use this?? Seems like this is for huge amounts of water lolol

I just received some from Amazon today. Is it just a water solution ration and water it in??

This stuff is not going to leach into the plant and be smoked right? Haha I would assume not considering it’s being posted in the organic section haha
Prepare the solution and soak your pots, repeat 3 times 3 days apart. Kill fliers with sticky traps and/or doktor doom foggers if in veg, be sure to top your soil with sand. No it will not hurt when smoked and BT is a soil bacteria, the very essence of organic.
 

mattman089

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Put strips of duct tape down on the soil grow tobacco plants in the tent. They are very sticky and collect alot of bugs.
This is a fun thought


Prepare the solution and soak your pots, repeat 3 times 3 days apart. Kill fliers with sticky traps and/or doktor doom foggers if in veg, be sure to top your soil with sand. No it will not hurt when smoked and BT is a soil bacteria, the very essence of organic.

Thanks to both!
 

Samwiseman420

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I learned to live with my gnats and granted them mercy and land to build their homes on. In response, they built a temple dedicated to me in one of my pots and now call me "your grace". They have selected a queen and only she is allowed to lay eggs. We thought about marriage but the male gnats were fully against it, especially the qeensguard. I can understand why.

I make sure to keep my pots extra moist and in return they refrain from flying into my ears, nose, eyes and mouth while I work. I know they are happy because they have laid out umbrellas and chairs next to their swimming pools. Many have fallen into heavy boozing and must be incarcerated from time to time but overall they are behaving rather well.

I shall soon write a best selling book called "How to live with and learn to love fungus gnats". It should fly off the bookshelves quickly :eek:
 

mattman089

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Prepare the solution and soak your pots, repeat 3 times 3 days apart. Kill fliers with sticky traps and/or doktor doom foggers if in veg, be sure to top your soil with sand. No it will not hurt when smoked and BT is a soil bacteria, the very essence of organic.
Excuse the ignorance as I’m so unfamiliar w this stuff but I have ZERO idea how to “prepare the solution” with this stuff. The directions state nothing apart from like 2ml in 2 THOUSAND gallons of water lmaaaaao!

Can you help a fellow growmie out here?? Lol

Pics attached as a reference

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compassionateExotic

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Excuse the ignorance as I’m so unfamiliar w this stuff but I have ZERO idea how to “prepare the solution” with this stuff. The directions state nothing apart from like 2ml in 2 THOUSAND gallons of water lmaaaaao!

Can you help a fellow growmie out here?? Lol

Pics attached as a reference

Edit: pics too large file size to attach ‍
That’s the rate for mosquitoes like for ponds

fungus gnat apply microbelife bmc (BTI) at .5ml-1ml per gallon every 7-14 days if infection high every 3-4 days . Key is to 100% saturation of medium . If u have a drain tray let the plant soak the runoff for a few minutes

key is airflow onto top of medium to deter adults , yellow traps to capture adults and also to know how bad ur pressures are . If ur populations get bad if indoors/closed loop greenhouse get rove beetles for adult fungus gnats or h miles if greenhouse/outdoors . I realize organics/no till it won’t ever be 109% dry but u can def deter them by having nice layers of straw ontop and let the medium have times of drying points . Point is u can def deter/control for FG by knowing u need to not over water and watching ur pest pressure and also knowing by time u see fliers the life cycle is high . I let my roves and h miles and misc have a nice home so therefore after A few rounds I noitce my traps even outdoors don’t ever get bad. those predators and ecosystem def will make FG their food and for years I def didn’t think it was possible To say that .

if ur really getting high pressures/populations of FG I suggest using the 1ml higher dosage of liquid BTI every watering for 2-4 times just remeber the adults are not being killed by BTI alone , than 3-7 days .5ml per gallon, once u see low populations go to 7-14 days at .5ml ( key is watching ur pest pressure ) . nematodes work great too for the babies but for everyday control I use liquid BTI (microbe life bmc) . The 1 gallon version is way cheaper but expire date is 12 months from day u open it, all anout how big ur grow is . The mosquito Bits even thou same species is only 6 months and if u do cost per dosages the liquid version def a better deal but also liquid is 8% BTI vs 4% (bits)


 
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livinthadream

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Excuse the ignorance as I’m so unfamiliar w this stuff but I have ZERO idea how to “prepare the solution” with this stuff. The directions state nothing apart from like 2ml in 2 THOUSAND gallons of water lmaaaaao!

Can you help a fellow growmie out here?? Lol

Pics attached as a reference

Edit: pics too large file size to attach ‍
how did u end up using them? and di they work for you??
i just recieved some and put half a "donut" into my 3 gal pale i keep my water in, i let it soak for about 30 mins before watering my plants now i will just keep it in the pale and let it soak in my water till i water again....hope this works
 

mattman089

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how did u end up using them? and di they work for you??
i just recieved some and put half a "donut" into my 3 gal pale i keep my water in, i let it soak for about 30 mins before watering my plants now i will just keep it in the pale and let it soak in my water till i water again....hope this works
Keep me posted. It’s just been sitting on my counter unused.. I’m not happy about it lol
 

cat shit

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I love organic but now ima fighting gnats like a bastard with fabric pots! I wanna sterilizer my soil sense I’m switching to a cocoa promix and lotus fertilizer from now on! How would y’all go about getting rid of the gnats and eggs I have sticky traps to keep them in check for now!
Soil is LM-ap with coast of main mixed and have been top dressing.
Get this stuff on ebay or anywhere online, I presoak my fabric pots with this just before planting and don't have any gnat issues repeat dosage if necessary its good stuff
 

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MannyPacs

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A couple years ago I contacted the microbelift guys after it wasn't seeming to work and they said 10-20 ml per gallon when dealing with a serious infestation. Then once I saw a dramatic decrease to cut down to 2.5-5 ml/gal once a week. I have continued doing that since but they still seem to come back little by little whenever I ease up and it doesn't take many to wreck a tray of seedlings
 

mattman089

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That’s the rate for mosquitoes like for ponds

fungus gnat apply microbelife bmc (BTI) at .5ml-1ml per gallon every 7-14 days if infection high every 3-4 days . Key is to 100% saturation of medium . If u have a drain tray let the plant soak the runoff for a few minutes

key is airflow onto top of medium to deter adults , yellow traps to capture adults and also to know how bad ur pressures are . If ur populations get bad if indoors/closed loop greenhouse get rove beetles for adult fungus gnats or h miles if greenhouse/outdoors . I realize organics/no till it won’t ever be 109% dry but u can def deter them by having nice layers of straw ontop and let the medium have times of drying points . Point is u can def deter/control for FG by knowing u need to not over water and watching ur pest pressure and also knowing by time u see fliers the life cycle is high . I let my roves and h miles and misc have a nice home so therefore after A few rounds I noitce my traps even outdoors don’t ever get bad. those predators and ecosystem def will make FG their food and for years I def didn’t think it was possible To say that .

if ur really getting high pressures/populations of FG I suggest using the 1ml higher dosage of liquid BTI every watering for 2-4 times just remeber the adults are not being killed by BTI alone , than 3-7 days .5ml per gallon, once u see low populations go to 7-14 days at .5ml ( key is watching ur pest pressure ) . nematodes work great too for the babies but for everyday control I use liquid BTI (microbe life bmc) . The 1 gallon version is way cheaper but expire date is 12 months from day u open it, all anout how big ur grow is . The mosquito Bits even thou same species is only 6 months and if u do cost per dosages the liquid version def a better deal but also liquid is 8% BTI vs 4% (bits)


This is very very helpful- thanks again…

Would this stuff do any harm to worms living in my bins? Also have some popping up in a worm bin itself. Would hate to nuke 2k worms haha

I imagine it’s Kline but figured I’d ask lol

thanks
 

compassionateExotic

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This is very very helpful- thanks again…

Would this stuff do any harm to worms living in my bins? Also have some popping up in a worm bin itself. Would hate to nuke 2k worms haha

I imagine it’s Kline but figured I’d ask lol

thanks
BTI will only kill larvae of mosquitoes and fungus gnats , also if u have h miles and swiski mites in there it def would help have a natrual aid to decomposting and defense against many bad bugs . For me I have such a high population of h miles and they seem to wanan be in my worm bins.
 

mattman089

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BTI will only kill larvae of mosquitoes and fungus gnats , also if u have h miles and swiski mites in there it def would help have a natrual aid to decomposting and defense against many bad bugs . For me I have such a high population of h miles and they seem to wanan be in my worm bins.
Now this is something else I’m going to have to delve into curious about the h miles and semi mites.
 

mattman089

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That’s the rate for mosquitoes like for ponds

fungus gnat apply microbelife bmc (BTI) at .5ml-1ml per gallon every 7-14 days if infection high every 3-4 days . Key is to 100% saturation of medium . If u have a drain tray let the plant soak the runoff for a few minutes

key is airflow onto top of medium to deter adults , yellow traps to capture adults and also to know how bad ur pressures are . If ur populations get bad if indoors/closed loop greenhouse get rove beetles for adult fungus gnats or h miles if greenhouse/outdoors . I realize organics/no till it won’t ever be 109% dry but u can def deter them by having nice layers of straw ontop and let the medium have times of drying points . Point is u can def deter/control for FG by knowing u need to not over water and watching ur pest pressure and also knowing by time u see fliers the life cycle is high . I let my roves and h miles and misc have a nice home so therefore after A few rounds I noitce my traps even outdoors don’t ever get bad. those predators and ecosystem def will make FG their food and for years I def didn’t think it was possible To say that .

if ur really getting high pressures/populations of FG I suggest using the 1ml higher dosage of liquid BTI every watering for 2-4 times just remeber the adults are not being killed by BTI alone , than 3-7 days .5ml per gallon, once u see low populations go to 7-14 days at .5ml ( key is watching ur pest pressure ) . nematodes work great too for the babies but for everyday control I use liquid BTI (microbe life bmc) . The 1 gallon version is way cheaper but expire date is 12 months from day u open it, all anout how big ur grow is . The mosquito Bits even thou same species is only 6 months and if u do cost per dosages the liquid version def a better deal but also liquid is 8% BTI vs 4% (bits)


Let me ask you this lol - any issue using this stuff in flower and or up to harvest? Lol

Only reason I ask is I know some people like to flush their soil before harvest (I do not personally) but is there any chance that the roots take this stuff up onto the plants?

Maybe I’m just being paranoid lol
 
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