God.

researchkitty said:

I know, it sucks when Google, Yahoo, Bing, and all those cool search engines dont work for popular phrases.

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Lol why speak Latin?
Please state your debate in English buddy, .

[video=youtube;ElgdkJoV3to]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElgdkJoV3to[/video]

...sorry about the horrible quality. I don't know who made the video either, but, a little bit fitting.


Supra Genius

Something I can't comprehend
Something so complex and
Couched in its equation
So dense that light cannot escape from

In the dark your brain glows
And it goes
Way um way, way um way um

I know you're a supra genius

Will you shoot the blue earth down?
In the space station
Polishing the ray gun
You say correllation is not causation

If we must debate about something that doesnt exist, should the language matter if the words wont mean anything in the end?

researchkitty said:

If we must debate about something that doesnt exist, should the language matter if the words wont mean anything in the end?

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So aliens don't exist? Where's your evidence to back up your statement?
And yes in order to debate I must read your argument in English.

Hepheastus420 said:

So aliens don't exist? Where's your evidence to back up your statement?
And yes in order to debate I must read your argument in English.

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I thought the subject was God, rather than aliens. I believe in aliens, but can not demonstrate that they exist.

researchkitty said:

I thought the subject was God, rather than aliens. I believe in aliens, but can not demonstrate that they exist.

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Why are you so skeptical of god and not aliens? And yes I said I think "aliens" are angels and god(s) and vice versa; that's where this started from, lol.

Hepheastus420 said:

Why are you so skeptical of god and not aliens? And yes I said I think "aliens" are angels and god(s) and vice versa; that's where this started from, lol.

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Aah yea, the date of threads catches up to you when you forget the original purpose after a while.

I'm skeptical of "God" because there's so many versions and varieties, all with beliefs that are different where some go to hell for things in some religions but dont in others. All based upon "words" and "events" that were tall tales from old times and most with logical explanations.

I'm optimistic for "Aliens" because there's countless suns and countless planets and many within liquid water range.... I can not demonstrate that aliens exist, obviously. Nor can a religious person prove that a God exists. However, I can point to numerous scientific papers and sky surveys and formulas for calculating the number of planets probable with life on them.

What can I say, I tend to lead to the evidence side of the arguments......

[video=youtube;Qlt0hkLNr3w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlt0hkLNr3w&feature=related[/video]

Knowledge FTW. 93% of ELITE SCIENTIST REJECT GOD.. no 7% OF ELITE SCIENTISTS DONT REJECT GOD...

Belief in God holds Mankind back.

ALEINS ARE FAR FAR FAR MORE PROBABLE THAN GOD. If you cannot realize that please eject yourself from this thread now.

A simple Bacteria from another planet would be considered Alien Life.. So with over 100 Billion Billion planets estimated... you would think an Almighty GOD is more probable than Aliens? Not even Close my man.

researchkitty said:

Aah yea, the date of threads catches up to you when you forget the original purpose after a while.

I'm skeptical of "God" because there's so many versions and varieties, all with beliefs that are different where some go to hell for things in some religions but dont in others. All based upon "words" and "events" that were tall tales from old times and most with logical explanations.

I'm optimistic for "Aliens" because there's countless suns and countless planets and many within liquid water range.... I can not demonstrate that aliens exist, obviously. Nor can a religious person prove that a God exists. However, I can point to numerous scientific papers and sky surveys and formulas for calculating the number of planets probable with life on them.

What can I say, I tend to lead to the evidence side of the arguments......

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There's also so many versions and varieties of alien life forms. And knowing how much we don't know about the universe doesn't make you think there can be a slight possibility of a god?

Hepheastus420 said:

There's also so many versions and varieties of alien life forms. And knowing how much we don't know about the universe doesn't make you think there can be a slight possibility of a god?

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Here's where you must first define god. If you mean an intelligent agent that created the universe, than that is much more improbable than alien life that must have come about by some slow evolutionary process. Alien life that is the equivalent of bacteria is much more probable than alien life that is intelligent which is more probable than alien life that is intelligent enough to travel interstellar distances.

... which is more probable than intelligent, technical aliens being in our neighborhood (and minding us) now. cn

mindphuk said:

Here's where you must first define god. If you mean an intelligent agent that created the universe, than that is much more improbable than alien life that must have come about by some slow evolutionary process. Alien life that is the equivalent of bacteria is much more probable than alien life that is intelligent which is more probable than alien life that is intelligent enough to travel interstellar distances.

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Good point.... Sorry to leave you hanging but I'm done arguing anything that has to do with my beliefs. There's just no point. I'm not trying to be a dick I'm completely serious about stoping my argument and admiring I don't have no evidence to back my claims.

I think at some point intelligent people should just agree that they disagree & move on.
Promise I won't try to convert you to Scientology, Nuwaubianism, but I might really try to sell you on The Church of Euthanasia..

Just .02 c.

Edit; Does this horse make my ass look big?

Our god could be an average joe in another universe on another dimension, that created your reality with his mind. fuck you.

Hepheastus420 said:

There's also so many versions and varieties of alien life forms. And knowing how much we don't know about the universe doesn't make you think there can be a slight possibility of a god?

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No, not really. I think its human fear and explaining what they couldnt explain at their technological adolescence. I would expect most advanced alien civilizations to also have been well past the religious belief period of their respective times. After all, religion on Earth has only been around a few thousand years and the ability to be more skeptical of it increases every day. The Universe has been around for 13.75 ± 0.13 billion years. If a "God" was going to make himself known, would he have really given a bunch of tablets to some asshat on a mountain?

When he could have simply Inscribed the 10 commandments on the Moon.. that would be getting his point across a little better.

researchkitty said:

No, not really. I think its human fear and explaining what they couldnt explain at their technological adolescence. I would expect most advanced alien civilizations to also have been well past the religious belief period of their respective times. After all, religion on Earth has only been around a few thousand years and the ability to be more skeptical of it increases every day. The Universe has been around for 13.75 ± 0.13 billion years. If a "God" was going to make himself known, would he have really given a bunch of tablets to some asshat on a mountain?

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RawBudzski said:

When he could have simply Inscribed the 10 commandments on the Moon.. that would be getting his point across a little better.

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...he put them on the sun instead...know which one?

religion = people asking money so you can gain favor from the gods.


in the old nordic religion, priests (called godar)

controlled rituals to please the gods and sometimes told the future (basically it was a system of you give this guy a rabbit or something and he cuts it open and either "reads" the future in its intestines (no idea why)
or spills the blood over some statue and says some crap to please the attendee.
the rabbit or whatnot is of course left behind for the gods (who do you think ate it and got a regular nice meal for putting up a bit of a show?

then of course this turned into more "big" affairs as the "priests" influence grew..


how it started? well, i think it might have gone something like this.

Thunder rolls in the distance, 2 skinclad men are sitting there tending a flock of sheep, they get to talking

"what do you think that is rolf?" "maybe its a big guy that does that hans"

"really" "yeah, i mean what else can it be? only thing around that creates stuff is us and we cant do that, so it gotta be bigger people"

years pass and since tending sheep is really boring, this gets to be the main conversation (since this is a area where thunderstorms happen alot it gets compounded)

and later on the big people get called gods and get names like thor.

years pass again and some bit natural disaster happens, everyone is shitscared.

and one dude, thinks aloud

"i wonder if the gods are angry"

"i wonder if we can please them"

"so..what do they like?"

"well, i like sheep"

so they try to sacrifice a sheep and offer it unto the heavens.
coincidentally, the natural distaster stops at the exact same time.

and now the guy that thought of this is a really important guy.

and so on. lol , maybe

A little more advanced than us? Honestly you & I could not be certain on in fact how advanced humans actually are. Public sector technology is YEARS BEHIND what is being/ has been created for LAB / Military Use.

Anywho I think you make a good point. Though I feel that any Aliens who were not originally from earth making contact here would have to be drastically superior to what we could imagine.