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panta

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i just saw this on my white russian 25th day flower. conditions 24c temp humidity 45% 600w hps soil light,it started on the lower leaves so im quesing its a def.
 

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panta

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euphoria DP 25th day flowering ,its in a 3gallon pot shes 75cm high i heard that if u can pul the plant from its container shes root bound is that true,couse i read in the fag's that for a 3ft plant thats 90cm a 3 gallon pot is enough i had some plants much bigger in the same pot size so i had to transplant them now i started pulling my plants from their pot and what i found is that most of them i can pull out like that,i dont whant to transplant all these plants
 

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Bubba Kushman

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Its either a phosphorous or a potassium deficency. What is the NPK of your nutes. The recomended NPK for flower is 10-30-20. If the stems and leaf bottoms are red its probably a Phosphorous deficency. Check out the FAQs to see whats up!
 

UserFriendly

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That usually happens in the low light levels of bottom leaves. The plant starts pulling from them because they aren't able to produce. Leaves will come and go. It's the nugs you need to be worried about now, especially with the short flowering WR. It could be a deficiency but nothing you need to worry about.

Don't transplant when flowering. Fresh soil is going to be loaded with nitrogen, and that'll stretch out your buds and set you back a few weeks.
 

Bubba Kushman

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I dont think the pot size is a issue. Ive grown pretty big plants in 3 gal pots. I have a feeling its a phospho problem. Make sure to adjust your ph to 5.2-5.8 for hydro or 6.0-6.8 for soil and water with a complete fertilizer. Try something close to 10-30-20 if you can.
 

panta

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That usually happens in the low light levels of bottom leaves. The plant starts pulling from them because they aren't able to produce. Leaves will come and go. It's the nugs you need to be worried about now, especially with the short flowering WR. It could be a deficiency but nothing you need to worry about.

Don't transplant when flowering. Fresh soil is going to be loaded with nitrogen, and that'll stretch out your buds and set you back a few weeks.
already did transplant some prople here told me that if i can pull the plant from the pot that its rootbound so i panicked a little and transplanted good thing this soil is very low on nutes,hope they dont hermie on me,what happens if a plant gets root bound in the midle of flowering
 

panta

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I dont think the pot size is a issue. Ive grown pretty big plants in 3 gal pots. I have a feeling its a phospho problem. Make sure to adjust your ph to 5.2-5.8 for hydro or 6.0-6.8 for soil and water with a complete fertilizer. Try something close to 10-30-20 if you can.
im new to this and somebody here told me that i should use 5 gallon pots these this 3g are small and thats that,im using 15-40-15 and some superdrive and a little bit od molasses
 

panta

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man i wanted to give u 2 some rep put i cant yet,have to spread some first,thanks for the help
 

UserFriendly

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As long as you can keep them watered, pot-bound roots are nothing to worry about. I don't even consider transplanting unless I have to water every day. ;-)
 

panta

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these leaves are from the same plant,didnt see it couse my grows a little crowded,most of the bigger leaves have it in the middle of the plant is this n.burn
 

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panta

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these are from 2 other plants dp euphoria and kc brains mango,are these spots on the euphoria also n.burn it looked to me like mites but i cant see anything under the leaves,this shows on the big leaves on the midle of the plant,and on the mango what is that
 

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UserFriendly

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Leaves are burnt. The pic with the spots look like it could be mites. You'd need a powerful looking-glass to catch them early, otherwise you'd be looking for spider webs, and by that time you can see them crawling all over. The splotches look like they could be powdery mildew, but the red tint to the pics makes it all hard to distinguish.

Pyrethrin bombs would take care of any pests. You'd have to do it at least twice for mites, 6 days apart. Something like neem oil is a good preventative, so you should be spraying them down every couple weeks minimum.
 

panta

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i was confused about that the leaevs as u said look to me as they have mites and the other set like its mildew but i heard that mites can attack my plants when the conditions are too dry low humidity and for the mildew when its too high,my humidity's 40%-46% i thought that was good,also yesterday i found out that the ph of my solution got to 7.8 it use to be stable before once i adjust it now i was adding molasses so i quess thats the reson for the rise,could that couse those spots and i did inspect the plant with a mag.glass but didnt find anything no webs,whats the best way i can cech if i have mites or mildew couse i have about 20 plants these so i can isolate the few before it spreads
 

panta

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Pyrethrin bombs,i dont think i can find those in my country,but i did order neem oil hope it passes the customs
 

panta

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just found these /Ingredients:
3 hot green peppers (canned or fresh)
2 or 3 cloves garlic
3/4 tsp liquid soap
3 cups water

Puree the peppers and garlic cloves in a blender. Pour into a spray bottle and add the liquid soap and water. Let stand 24 hours. Strain out pulp and spray onto infested plants, making sure to coat both tops and bottoms of leaves.,

If you find Spider Mites you must act fast and hit them hard with either a bleach solution (1 tablespoon of bleach to 1 gallon of 95°F, pH balanced, water in a spray bottle.) or use a miticide with Abamectin or lindane in it. That seems to work best

can i use any of htese before i get the neem oil,if i get it
 

Brick Top

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As long as you can keep them watered, pot-bound roots are nothing to worry about. I don't even consider transplanting unless I have to water every day. ;-)

I would not recommend repotting while in flower unless it was absolutely necessary but having root-bounds plants is not something to not be concerned about.


The following symptoms may be observed if you allow your plants to become root-bound:

  1. Stunted Growth.
  2. Stretching.
  3. Smaller and slower bud production.
  4. Needs watering too often.
  5. Easy to burn with low % nutrient solution mixtures.
  6. Wilting

Think ahead, plan ahead, use as large size pots as you possibly can, well that is within certain limits. It is not like you need a 50-gallon pot or anything. But remember the root structure will be pretty close to the same size as your above soil or growing medium size so if you look at your plants and say if I tried to cram all that into my pot it would be really hard or impossible then your pot size is way to small.


What you shoot for is a pot size where when your plants reach their full size the roots are using the entire pot but are not circling the pot and are not all wrapped around and through each other. Anything larger than the roots will ever use is wasted space and wasted soil and wasted nutes and wasted water. Anything less that that size causes root-bound conditions and the list of problems above can likely occur, or at least some of them.
 

UserFriendly

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Shit dude, I never heard of anyone spraying bleach onto their plants; that just seems fucked. You've already got the neem coming so just hold off until you know for sure or you get the neem. Anything you spray is likely to cause more burn to an already diseased plant.

I've never had to worry about mildew, but high pH makes it go away. I see a lot of cats spray with milk (diluted?) or a high pH water. I would start off with distilled or reverse osmosis and add pH+ to that.

In which country do you live? You've got the internet so it can't be that bad. You should be able to get anything you need with a credit card. In which country do you live?
 

panta

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Shit dude, I never heard of anyone spraying bleach onto their plants; that just seems fucked. You've already got the neem coming so just hold off until you know for sure or you get the neem. Anything you spray is likely to cause more burn to an already diseased plant.

I've never had to worry about mildew, but high pH makes it go away. I see a lot of cats spray with milk (diluted?) or a high pH water. I would start off with distilled or reverse osmosis and add pH+ to that.

In which country do you live? You've got the internet so it can't be that bad. You should be able to get anything you need with a credit card. In which country do you live?
I live in Bosnia thats in europe but the undeveloped part,yes i got internet and a credit card but as far as supplys go almost everything u can get in your local store i have to order from germany or some other EU country and thats not so bad as the customs couse last time i ordered some ferts. advanced nutrients big bud and all that stuff after waiting for 3 weeks i got the email that the package has been returned,so i never know what they'l alow and what gets rejected,i just now saw in the FAQ's the milk recepie so how can i make sure its mildew before i use it,and what about that pepper mix for mites or the nicotine mix does that work if i have mites i wana act as fast as possible couse i have alot of plant veg.mothers,clones,2 flowering chambers
 
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