• Here is a link to the full explanation: https://rollitup.org/t/welcome-back-did-you-try-turning-it-off-and-on-again.1104810/

got a few questions,

lahadaextranjera

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For a plant that is to go into flower, you need a good root system. Some clones can go into flower within 3-4 weeks from cutting. It also depends how many u put per light. If you grow SOG 20-25 per sq , then we flip them at 20 cms appx. Seeds take me 5-6 weeks usually. Don't clone seeded mums before 2 mths as you need the hormones and auxins to develop.
 

LadyZandra

Active Member
hey, i was here wondering what is the average time a plant should be vegged for, and about how long do the plants need till they can be put into flowering? basically what is the average veg time (how many weeks) for plants, and how many weeks is there before flowering should be introduced
Well- that all depends on you and what you are growing...

You can veg until they have just 5 sets of leaves and go 12/12-- they will keep vegging and bloom as soon as they are sexually mature-- but if it is a strain that needs veg time or is a connoisseur plant they won't yield for crap....

Most plants need at least 4 weeks of veg AFTER they get their 3rd set of leaves... Sativa Dominant plants do best with long veg times- up to 8 - 10 weeks or if they are a strain that gets huge, go right into 12/12 at the 5 sets of leaves- you'll still get a 3-4 ft plant....

Good Luck! ;)
 

Flaming Pie

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sorry guys, i thought the community was a place for advice, rather than using google, i like to ask real life people who have experience and its seems more assuring than to just a typical google search, if your going to tell me to just use google then what for have the community for grow advice, and blowincherrypie i forgot to utilize this link for all my needs
Advice. Not grow your plants for you. You can't come in here and expect to get a play by play how to grow from responses. The forum already has the information written down for newbies to find.

You haven't even taken the advice of members who have taken the time to respond.
 

AimAim

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sorry guys, i thought the community was a place for advice, rather than using google, i like to ask real life people who have experience and its seems more assuring than to just a typical google search, if your going to tell me to just use google then what for have the community for grow advice, and blowincherrypie i forgot to utilize this link for all my needs
Problem is there's a lot of people that just spout off as fact what they have read and actually have no or limited experience. There are people on this board that have never grown a gram of smoke, have not even attempted to. But they cruise the internets picking up buzzwords and "it's common knowledge" factoids, and since they have read it so many times they know it's true. When in fact it's just posers, regurgitating info they read from other posers. And they envision themself as a grower.

There are many, many excellent growers on this site that offer top notch advice. Just gotta do your Due Diligence and decide who to to listen to. And learn to enjoy the pissing matches.

Peace - AIM
 

slightlytoasted

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You can veg them 24/0 just fine. 18/6 works and so does 16/8. It all comes down to personal preference. Vegging plants don't need darkness. Flowering plants do.
I must disagree. Respectfully of course, but the plants always need darkness. Alot of really important growth is done during the dark phase. Dont believe me? Set up a night vision camera in your room at night. Am i saying it cant be done without darkness? of course not. But i believe that having a dark phase, even for 4hrs will give the plant its most potential for vigorous growth.

Personally, I use 24h light when in veg because it helps me control the temperature of my room. It gets too cool at night and I'd rather not place a heater in the room.
This is an outstanding reason to adjust your lighting. If you need to control your environment, by all means, do what you must to take care of your girls!

Realistically tho, how much of a difference does it all make in the long run? The possibility of a harvest a few days early? why would you spend more on electricity if the benefits are so slight?

On a different note, and to answer the OP's original question, Jorge Cervantes' Medical Growers Bible states that the hormone levels in a plant started from seed will be adequate for flowering after the 6th week of veg. Any clones taken will keep the same age as the mother it was taken from and can be flowered as soon as it's rooted. Again this isn't the only way it can be done as I've seen many growers go 12/12 from clone, even seed! All up to you.

I like curvy girls so i veg mine 8weeks or more.
 

lahadaextranjera

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^^^^ I'm 18:6 and unless I had ridiculously high swings in temp and high RH (over 80%) I would keep it that way. Jorge was raving it up in the Resin club here in March!!! :)
 

blowincherrypie

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I must disagree. Respectfully of course, but the plants always need darkness. Alot of really important growth is done during the dark phase. Dont believe me? Set up a night vision camera in your room at night. Am i saying it cant be done without darkness? of course not. But i believe that having a dark phase, even for 4hrs will give the plant its most potential for vigorous growth.


This is an outstanding reason to adjust your lighting. If you need to control your environment, by all means, do what you must to take care of your girls!

Realistically tho, how much of a difference does it all make in the long run? The possibility of a harvest a few days early? why would you spend more on electricity if the benefits are so slight?

On a different note, and to answer the OP's original question, Jorge Cervantes' Medical Growers Bible states that the hormone levels in a plant started from seed will be adequate for flowering after the 6th week of veg. Any clones taken will keep the same age as the mother it was taken from and can be flowered as soon as it's rooted. Again this isn't the only way it can be done as I've seen many growers go 12/12 from clone, even seed! All up to you.

I like curvy girls so i veg mine 8weeks or more.
I must disagree, respectfully as well. Since weed is a C3 plant they will photosynthesize as much light as you can throw their way.
 

mr2shim

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I must disagree. Respectfully of course, but the plants always need darkness. Alot of really important growth is done during the dark phase. Dont believe me? Set up a night vision camera in your room at night. Am i saying it cant be done without darkness? of course not. But i believe that having a dark phase, even for 4hrs will give the plant its most potential for vigorous growth.
It's extremely difficult to explain. But in short, most plants(cannabis included) don't NEED darkness to grow, they only need darkness to flower. If you want to understand it google "calvin cycle" "carbon fixation" and "C3".

One way in which plants are categorized is by the way they gather and handle carbon dioxide. Cannabis is a C3 plant. It uses the CO2 it gathers during the light period, when it is photosynthesizing. Plants designated C4 also gather CO2 during the dark period for use during the light period. Many C3 plants, including cannabis, do not need a rest period. They continue to photosynthesize as long as they are receiving light.
Photosynthesis is the process by which plants turn sunlight into food. Food that is created by this photosynthesis is used by the plant to add more tissue to itself, whether rit be more leaves, flowers, or fruits. Without the process of photosynthesis, plant growth would not occur, and eventually the plant would not only stop growing, but stop living.
The majority of photosynthesis occurs with the help of the chemical chlorophyll, which is found in special cells within the leaves known as chloroplasts. The visible light that hits the earth does so at different wavelengths. The different wavelengths correspond to different colors (there are seven, and can be seen within a rainbow). Chlorophyll is also what is responsible for making the leaves green and they use mostly wavelengths of light that are red. Leaves also possess pigments other than chlorophyll that are present so that the plant can make use of a greater range of visible light wavelengths.
The photosynthetic process occurs most readily when the sunlight available to the plant is the greatest. This is why plants in the tropics grow so large. They are near the equator where the sunlight is directly overhead much of the year. However, photosynthesis can occur in the dark. It does not occur as rapidly as during the daylight, but it is possible. If this were not the case, plants would shut down entirely every night when the sun went down.Therefore, the periodic darkness of nighttime does not affect plant growth very much. In areas of the world, like Alaska, that experience seasonal increases in the length of daylight photosynthesis does make plants grow very large. Although Alaskan vegetable gardens are filled with plants that do well with cool temperatures and a short growing season (turnips and cabbage, for example), they tend to grow very large. This is because the sunlight hitting the gardens can do so for up to 20 hours a day.
The whole idea that vegetative plants need darkness is a myth and there is no scientific evidence that can prove it. It's one of those things that go around grow forums that everyone repeats without really researching it themselves. Even in nature there is such a thing as 24 hours of day. Barrow Alaska gets 85 days of continuous sun a year in the summer. Obviously that isn't how it is around most of the world but that is a completely different discussion.
 
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