Grafted Mother Plants

Hi everybody!

Does anyone have any grafted mother plants? As in 2 or more strains grafted to one root stock?

I'm planning on trying this in a couple months (will post when I try it) and I'm wanting to know if anyone else has any plants like this already.

I'm hoping I can get 4 strains or phenos grafted to one root stock, that will remain true, so I can get cuttings from 4 different plants while only keeping the single mother.

Just an experiment at this stage. Let me know what your experience with this is,
Cheers.

Just remember, if you lose that one plant, you lose all of your strains. It should work, depending on your ability to graft. Its much harder than cloning, so good luck there.

I'll have clones of the strains too. So no losing strains going on. And I've never had a plant die on me, so not too worried bout that, a first time for everything though.

I've done grafting of trees and such, as well as air layering. It's part of my profession so although some may fin it hard, it's second nature to me haha.

Just waiting on the strains/phenos I want to graft to grow out.

I had never had a plant die on me either until I had a super lazy week and lost 2 of my moms. It was all my fault, but shit still happens.
Air layering is an awesome way to clone plants. I have never done it with MJ, but with other plants it works great. I went to school for environmental horticulture for 2yrs and got to do all kinds of fun stuff with plants. From grafting and cloning, to interesting experiments involving different lighting conditions, the addition of auxins, etc. I really enjoyed my schooling and plan on opening my own hydro shop here in the next few months.
Good luck with the grafting, let us know how it turns out. Even if you don't have the strains you want to use right now, it would still be cool to have a frankenstein tree of any strains. Shit, I would make a bunch and flower them. You could flower one plant and get like 6 different strains off of it. Now that would be awesome.

Cheers mate.

Will be a fun experiment for sure.

Good luck with the hydro store!

I think I might try this. cause I'm trying a closet grow, so it might take awhile but I think I'm gonna do this. any suggestions for strains

Strains I haven't quite figured out yet ... I figure you'd want them to have similar indica/sativa ratios, just thinking maybe it would be easier. I wonder what would happen if an indica was grafted to pure sativa root stock...?

I'm thinking I'll start with some AK, find a good pheno, then maybe get a big bud that grows crazy fast to use as the root stock... duno what else I'd graft to it, but AK sounds like a good place to start.

All of your root stock should be very similar I would assume. At least close enough to where it would work. Most of the time, when you are looking for "good" root stock, it is because you need roots that are adapted to that area, to grow dwarf plants, etc. If you are starting with a decent root stock, one with good roots so to speak, it will be the scion that matters.

Here is quick quote from a website

In most cases, one plant is selected for its roots, and this is called the stock or rootstock. The other plant is selected for its stems, leaves, flowers, or fruits and is called the scion.

This being said, as long as your root stock grows healthy plants on its own, I'm sure it will be able to support any scion you try and graft.

All of your root stock should be very similar I would assume.

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Yea that's what I was thinking.

But rootstock is important. The better the rootstock, the better the support provided for the scion. E.g - Avocado trees that fruit well, usually have poor growth, so they graft them to vigorous rootstock, allowing the grafted variety to also become a vigorous grower, with the benefits of also producing well.

It's really almost a 50/50 companionship.

This is very true. I was thining you were wondering more so whether all root stock would work with all scions.
As far as growth goes, yes teh root stock will matter. You may be able to "dwarf" a sativa with some short indica or possibly autoflower depending if they're close enough.

I wonder if I could get my Purple Urkel to grow faster by doing this? I may try it to get my PU growing faster. I will put it on like an Ice or Papaya root stock and check it out.

The only difference I see here is that most of the time when you choose a mother plant, you are choosing the vigorous, stoniest plants you can find. When your mothers that you already keep are already vigorous growers, all of your root stock should be pretty well suited to how you grow. I am assuming your mothers you have are where you would get your scion from, so they all should be good.

Also, yes sativas grow taller than indicas, but sativas usually use less nutes in comparison. SO that combo may not be too great.

I am by no means an expert on grafting MJ, or any plant for that matter. I only did it in class and learned from a book, so I may be completly off. But these were my stoned off hash and some sleeping pills thoughts.

Anyway, I hope it works out.

Also, yes sativas grow taller than indicas, but sativas usually use less nutes in comparison. SO that combo may not be too great.

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Wasn't really wondering about the height difference or anything like that, just curious if they'd b compatible at all.
Auto-flowering... Ew, don't want any ruderalis genetics in there hahaha.

Something interesting to try would be to get 1 plant that is very potent, but lacking in yield and 1 plant that isn't too potent but has large yield (where Big Bud comes in ) and try using one as rootstock, one as scion, and vise versa, and see if the rootstock effects the yield of the plant and/or potency.

I'm doing a few seed runs to find suitable plants before I try this... So may not get a proper experiment going for a year or so. Think I'll try grafting some of the plants I already have lying around to test it out first, iron out the flaws.

If anyone tries this in the mean time, please post your findings here, would greatly appreciate it! Pics would be great too.

oh my god this stuff is blowing my mind!!

that sounds amazing though it sounds like an awesome experiment. i'm just about to take my first clones before i put my first grow into flower, so i think i'll just stick with that for the time being but...

DAMN!!!

i can't imagine how cool that would be to harvest a tree with 4 different strains on it...you should definitely keep a journal to keep us all informed of your experiments, sounds like fun.

I've done some grafting myself, on cacti only though. I should probably look to answer my question but I'm gonna be a noob anyway. Can two species of plants be grafted together? Say, some strawberries to the roots of cannabis? I've got myself tempted to try. If it works, it would probably end up like white tiger, mules, things like that. A unique paring of parents that result in a unique offspring. The downside to that though is that it might not be able to breed after such a thing.

I just thought that would be awesome - cannaberries

In grafting, your root stock and scion must be of the same species. I believe it is the species anyway. I know they have to be fairly closely related. Like you can put limes, lemons, and oranges all on one plant because they are all the same species. But you can't put a cherry on there because it is a different family of fruit.
However, I don't think you quite understand what happens when you graft. WHen grafting, your scion (the part of the plant grafted to the root stock), will retain it original properties. If you use cannabis roots and strawberry tops as you mention, you will not get stony strawberries. You will end up with strawberries grown on a rootstock that is cannabis. No THC will be made in the strawberries.

limes, lemons, and oranges all on one plant because they are all the same species

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Actually they're not the same Species, they're the same Genus, they're all Citrus, but, for example, an orange is Citrus sinensis, and a lime (Kaffir lime in this example) is Citrus hystrix, they're both of the Citrus Genus, but two different species.

However, I don't think you quite understand what happens when you graft. WHen grafting, your scion (the part of the plant grafted to the root stock), will retain it original properties. If you use cannabis roots and strawberry tops as you mention, you will not get stony strawberries. You will end up with strawberries grown on a rootstock that is cannabis. No THC will be made in the strawberries.

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That's righty tighty. We all wish we could make THC filled strawberries though hahaha.

I almost wrote genus, but for some reason I thought I was wrong. Thats why I wrote I think its the species. Thanks for the corrections there. I missed that question twice on tests in my classes, and now it looks like a third time, lol.

Well then for your study purposes:

There are 8 main taxonomic ranks: Domain, Kingdom, Phylum, Class, Order, Family, Genus, Species.

There are slightly different ranks for zoology and for botany.

We'll quickly get a little more advanced in Botany from kingdom onward shall we!

*** *** ***
primary ranks (latin)

- - - secondary ranks (latin)

- - - - - - - further ranks
*** *** ***

kingdom (regnum)

- - - - - - - subregnum

division or phylum (divisio, phylum)

- - - - - - - subdivisio or subphylum

class (classis)

- - - - - - - subclassis

order (ordo)

- - - - - - - subordo

family (familia)

- - - - - - - subfamilia

- - - tribe (tribus)

- - - - - - - subtribus

genus (genus)

- - - - - - - subgenus

- - - section (sectio)

- - - - - - - subsectio

- - - series (series)

- - - - - - - subseries

species (species)

- - - - - - - subspecies

- - - variety (varietas)

- - - - - - - subvarietas

- - - form (forma)

- - - - - - - subforma

Hey that reminds me a lot of my plant biology class. I haven't taken classes for a few years now, but I'm still using a lot of what I learned for my own purposes.

Ah, well, one can dream; right? Cannaberries would be radical! Kinda like those one real bitter berries that are illegal to grow. They'll make you trip if you eat too many.

(Oh, I apparently meant genus as well. My mistake, oops.)

hmm .. it would be nice if u could graft a cannabis plant to a tree and then have it regrow each year .. but its not possible cause the properties of cannabis is to DIE!!