Grand Daddy Purple autoflower. Pics

rob333 said:

you no who would no is @vostok inlighten us brother

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^^^ this prick been here longer then me he would no for sure wouldent you @vostok

rob333 said:

think we need a auto breeder casue breeding regs and fems are easy auto,s got me fucked i have done it once but that was only with a strain from the high lands of china called the yunnan strain she would get to a point of 31-41 days in veg and start to flower but you would need to switch to 12/12 as she would hermi if u did not

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I will be breeding autos.
Currently in the works of starting a small seed company with fair prices and killer genetics.
Breeding Autos is quite easy just takes several generations.
I have a Diagram i made a while back to make auto breeding make more sense.

Trippyness said:

I will be breeding autos.
Currently in the works of starting a small seed company with fair prices and killer genetics.
Breeding Autos is quite easy just takes several generations.
I have a Diagram i made a while back to make auto breeding make more sense.

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i do not think they will be a pure auto just cause u mix a pheno than breed that pheno with a auto does noy mean you will get auto's atm i am speaking to someone from barneys farm to jump on and explain the process to us

rob333 said:

i do not think they will be a pure auto just cause u mix a pheno than breed that pheno with a auto does noy mean you will get auto's atm i am speaking to someone from barneys farm to jump on and explain the process to us

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i do no that you do need a femmed pheno mixed in the the auto's or you will just get male auto's

rob333 said:

i do not think they will be a pure auto just cause u mix a pheno than breed that pheno with a auto does noy mean you will get auto's atm i am speaking to someone from barneys farm to jump on and explain the process to us

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I just posted above how Auto genes work.
Im well aware of how they work.

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Auto = aa
Photo = AA

Auto x Photo = Aa (will not auto)

Aa x Aa (two of the non-autoing offspring crossed together) = AA, Aa, Aa, aa (One fourth will auto. Keep that one)

*Note: During all steps, only select the offspring with your favorite traits to continue breeding with (ie. Not all of the autoflowering offspring in this step will be identical).

aa x aa (two auto'ing offspring from the last generation) = aa (all auto'ing)

Your new auto's would have 50/50 genetics from the auto and the photo parent.

You can then repeat the process with that new autoflower you just made, instead of the one you used originally, to make the genetic percentage lean more and more towards the photo parent, through back-crossing (crossing the new auto offspring to the original photo parent). The catch is, the percentage difference each time is exponentially less, and never reaches 100% (you need at least the autoflower gene(s) from the auto parent).

50/50 -> 75/25 -> 87.5/12.5 -> 93.75/6.25 -> etc.

Therefore, within four rounds of this breeding, your auto would be very very close to the original photo. Depending on how suitable your auto parent choice was, you might not be able to even tell the difference between the new autos and their photo parents.

Ideally, after you settle on having back-crossed enough times, you would take your latest batch of seeds, and label them F1.

Then cross siblings from each generation, until you hit F7 to have a very stable strain that shows little difference (Should have one phenotype).

It sounds like a ton of work, and it definitely isn't easy, but given the life cycle of most auto's you should be able to finish the process in a few years if you are really on top of your game.

The reason there is so much variation in commercial seeds, is that it is much easier and more cost effective to make a simple cross, and start selling it while leaving it in an early generation, because 1, you benefit from hybrid vigor, and 2 people cant just spray one with cs and inbreed them for more seeds that will be the same, because there will be a ton of variation due to it not being stable yet.

Trippyness said:

I just posted above how Auto genes work.
Im well aware of how they work.

Quote from another forum

-----------------------------------
Auto = aa
Photo = AA

Auto x Photo = Aa (will not auto)

Aa x Aa (two of the non-autoing offspring crossed together) = AA, Aa, Aa, aa (One fourth will auto. Keep that one)

*Note: During all steps, only select the offspring with your favorite traits to continue breeding with (ie. Not all of the autoflowering offspring in this step will be identical).

aa x aa (two auto'ing offspring from the last generation) = aa (all auto'ing)

Your new auto's would have 50/50 genetics from the auto and the photo parent.

You can then repeat the process with that new autoflower you just made, instead of the one you used originally, to make the genetic percentage lean more and more towards the photo parent, through back-crossing (crossing the new auto offspring to the original photo parent). The catch is, the percentage difference each time is exponentially less, and never reaches 100% (you need at least the autoflower gene(s) from the auto parent).

50/50 -> 75/25 -> 87.5/12.5 -> 93.75/6.25 -> etc.

Therefore, within four rounds of this breeding, your auto would be very very close to the original photo. Depending on how suitable your auto parent choice was, you might not be able to even tell the difference between the new autos and their photo parents.

Ideally, after you settle on having back-crossed enough times, you would take your latest batch of seeds, and label them F1.

Then cross siblings from each generation, until you hit F7 to have a very stable strain that shows little difference (Should have one phenotype).

It sounds like a ton of work, and it definitely isn't easy, but given the life cycle of most auto's you should be able to finish the process in a few years if you are really on top of your game.

The reason there is so much variation in commercial seeds, is that it is much easier and more cost effective to make a simple cross, and start selling it while leaving it in an early generation, because 1, you benefit from hybrid vigor, and 2 people cant just spray one with cs and inbreed them for more seeds that will be the same, because there will be a ton of variation due to it not being stable yet.

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i understand what you are saying here 100% but it still seems like a bit of hit and miss but i am gunna give it a wirl what about femmed ?? i do no that you do need to breed a femmed into the pheno as most auto's will auto female but i have heard if u dont throw a femmed into the mix it will auto male ?

rob333 said:

^^^ this prick been here longer then me he would no for sure wouldent you @vostok

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Sorry to say the GDP. I know of is a strain composed mostly of Hawaiian Sativa's

big lush heat loving plants that don't mind the tropical wet

as its a well known 99% sativa you'd be wanting to see them thin leaves

and a well oiled chain saw for harvest

but hey.. many do and have mixed in the Ruderalis

to prop up the fading Dutch seed market,...shame really

IMO: add 2 more cfl's this time to prevent the squat shitty look,

ensure those 2 are at 2700k or warm white to encourage vertical growth too

the 150w HPS puts out more heat than light, so use two, come budding

good luck

vostok said:

Sorry to say the GDP. I know of is a strain composed mostly of Hawaiian Sativa's

big lush heat loving plants that don't mind the tropical wet

as its a well known 99% sativa you'd be wanting to see them thin leaves

and a well oiled chain saw for harvest

but hey.. many do and have mixed in the Ruderalis

to prop up the fading Dutch seed market,...shame really

IMO: add 2 more cfl's this time to prevent the squat shitty look,

ensure those 2 are at 2700k or warm white to encourage vertical growth too

the 150w HPS puts out more heat than light, so use two, come budding

good luck

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i run two 600 watt hps and the gdp just kill my tent for space cinderella is another strain that it pretty damn close to the gdp