GREAT WHITE MYCO generates a transparent slime?

Mattossz

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Hi, I started using great white myco in dwc, I used 1gr in 5lt of distilled water. In just 1 day a kind of transparent slime was formed on the roots. Is this normal with said product?
 

J232

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Not sure but clear slime could also be brown algae, any light leaks, it won’t take much. I wouldn’t put great white or enzymes in hydro as a preventative, I looked into it and it was pretty mixed for opinions. Any pics of the roots or said slime?
 
You are using mycorrhizal fungi in a DWC? So myco is a mycelium, stuff that fruits mushrooms. It’s typically white... and will attach to the roots. In nature, it’s what breaks down the nutrients in soil. It also exhales CO2 and breathes oxygen. Ive never heard of it being used in a DWC. But I don’t grow hydro. I swear by the stuff for organic soils though. I am interested to see your results.
 

Mattossz

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Not sure but clear slime could also be brown algae, any light leaks, it won’t take much. I wouldn’t put great white or enzymes in hydro as a preventative, I looked into it and it was pretty mixed for opinions. Any pics of the roots or said slime?
Forget the quality of the photos, the slime is there, but new roots are emerging from there, I notice the happiest plant although this is that viscous slime, Heinserberg himself in a very old topic indicated that if a lot of great white was added this would generate a viscous layer.
 

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Mattossz

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Not sure but clear slime could also be brown algae, any light leaks, it won’t take much. I wouldn’t put great white or enzymes in hydro as a preventative, I looked into it and it was pretty mixed for opinions. Any pics of the roots or said slime?
This only happened after adding great white myco, the aeration in the bucket is triple the recommended flow rate, I do not have any light leakage, and the temperature of my grow room is between 20 to 23 degrees maximum. @Heisenberg
 

Wastei

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Don't use organics in DWC. The only real exception is SouthernAG fungicide containing bacillus amyloliquefaciens. Same as Hydroguard but concentrated instead of heavily watered down.

I believe they also got some controlled kelp extract I've seen good results with. But if your not running a chiller you will have better results running sterile with an oxidizer like bleach (sodium hypochlorite).
 

Mattossz

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Don't use organics in DWC. The only real exception is SouthernAG fungicide containing bacillus amyloliquefaciens. Same as Hydroguard but concentrated instead of heavily watered down.

I believe they also got some controlled kelp extract I've seen good results with. But if your not running a chiller you will have better results running sterile with an oxidizer like bleach (sodium hypochlorite).
I will see how the next few days continue as an experiment and I will return to the leija. Thanks
 
So mycelium will have metabolites. I know this isn’t a mushroom growing thread but I posted a picture of mycelium being grown in jars. The yellow/brown spots on the white mycelium are the metabolites or myco “piss” for lack of another term.
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In soil it’s great for roots.... there are hundreds of case studies that show that mycelium and plants grow symbiotically. Mycelium breaks down the nutrients in the soil to increase bioavailability and create a communication network between plants if they are in the same container... trees in a forest actually pass nutrients to each other through mycelium.

I don’t grow hydro and it’s just an odd concept for me... when you grow mushrooms you want an environment that is barely damp. Like a paper towel that was wet but then had the water rung out. There are very few fungi that live in a hydro environment. For comparison the picture I posted. Once the jar is fully colonized it’s dunked in water, but typically for like 4-8 hours, never longer than 24 hours and that’s just to rehydrate the cakes that haven’t been touched for a month since they were initially created and to trigger fruiting of mushrooms. They are then set in a humid area so they can fruit mushrooms. Having mycelium drowned in water 100% of the time is not their normal environment.

but for all those reasons that’s why I was interested to see what would happen with your experiment... I am just wondering if that “slime” is actually the metabolites of the mycelium.
 

Mattossz

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In soil it’s great for roots.... there are hundreds of case studies that show that mycelium and plants grow symbiotically. Mycelium breaks down the nutrients in the soil to increase bioavailability and create a communication network between plants if they are in the same container... trees in a forest actually pass nutrients to each other through mycelium.

I don’t grow hydro and it’s just an odd concept for me... when you grow mushrooms you want an environment that is barely damp. Like a paper towel that was wet but then had the water rung out. There are very few fungi that live in a hydro environment. For comparison the picture I posted. Once the jar is fully colonized it’s dunked in water, but typically for like 4-8 hours, never longer than 24 hours and that’s just to rehydrate the cakes that haven’t been touched for a month since they were initially created and to trigger fruiting of mushrooms. They are then set in a humid area so they can fruit mushrooms. Having mycelium drowned in water 100% of the time is not their normal environment.

but for all those reasons that’s why I was interested to see what would happen with your experiment...
Thanks for the explanation, I will keep the subject updated as the days go by.
 

Wastei

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Thanks for the explanation, I will keep the subject updated as the days go by.
There's no mycelium in hydro because there's no medium to inoculate. You only use bacteria cultures to prevent root rot and the microbes die off because there's no medium to colonize. You strive for more good bacteria than bad essentially.

Like I said it only work as preventative measures and do nothing in terms of yield and potency in hydro.
 
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