Green Crack seeds?

A buddy of mine just had some really good green crack but it had quite a few seeds.. He gave em to me since he has no use for them so I put em in the dirt and all of them popped, what are the odds that this is actually "Green Crack" ive been looking it up and sooo many people are saying that you can only get the strain from clone and if it does have seeds, they wont work.

Clone only eh? I'll bet BC Seeds, Riot Seeds and SickMeds would be surprised to hear that line.

If it is Green Crack (which IS clone ONLY) and has seeds either a hermed GC clone pollinated a non hermie GC clone,or a GC clone hermied and pollinated itself (both making no good seeds) or,a different strain pollinatef the GC meaning you'll have a hybrid and not legit GC.

Well lets just hope the buds are nice and gooey this winter!

Nootnam said:

A buddy of mine just had some really good green crack but it had quite a few seeds.. He gave em to me since he has no use for them so I put em in the dirt and all of them popped, what are the odds that this is actually "Green Crack" ive been looking it up and sooo many people are saying that you can only get the strain from clone and if it does have seeds, they wont work.

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You're already proven that they WILL work.

As already mentioned, you've got two real possibilities here.

-The se-eds in these buds were created by stray pollen from ANOTHER (non-Green Crack) plant. In that case, the ceeds are "bastards" and will grow into hybrid plants Green Crack x unknown father. How good these are will depend on the quality of the father, but there are plenty of Green-crack x something else hybrids on the market now, and many of them are quite good.

They won't be "true" green crack, but the chances of these se-eds yielding good plants is still pretty good.

-Se-eds found in buds this way could be "S1" ceeds, caused by a hermaphrodite male flower that grew on a female green plant under stress. Now, S1 se-eds like this are hybrids, and they should be expected to throw off a whole bunch of phenos. A *few* of them may be like the original Green Crack clone only line, but MOST of them won't be exactly like, it, they'll just have SOME similar characteristics.

Interestingly, S1 Green Crack plants tend to go purple.

If you read about why that likely happens, and what S1 Green Crack plants can do, please read my grow report on a Sickmeds S1 Green Crack I grew, in my signature below.

Bottom line is, no the plant wasn't the same as the original, but it had the characteristic mango/fruity smell and flavor, awesome purple-colored buds, nice fast flowering time (plants were done after 50 days of 12-12), and moderate potency. Yield wasn't all that high, but I certainly didn't think growing this was a waste of my time!

Sickmeds Green Crack S1:

Ou8aCracker2 said:

If it is Green Crack (which IS clone ONLY) and has seeds either a hermed GC clone pollinated a non hermie GC clone,or a GC clone hermied and pollinated itself (both making no good seeds) or,a different strain pollinatef the GC meaning you'll have a hybrid and not legit GC.

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By definition all clone only plants are genetically identical. So it doesn't really make any difference if a hermie GC plant fertilizes itself, or if it fertilizes a genetically identical "sister" plant right next to it. The results will be exactly the same; either way you're basically just making a cross of Green crack x Green crack (reversed).

As to the se-eds being "no good", see above.

So long as they're mature, S1 se-eds are perfectly viable. Lots of breeders offer then, I've grown these several times, and they grow just fine. In fact, S1 se-eds are typically "feminized", meaning that if that's what these are, all or virtually all of the se-eds in question will give rise to female plants.

In THIS case, the main issue with S1 se-eds is that they're basically a genetic F2 cross, and they'll throw off many different phenos. Some will be more indica-like, some will be more sativa-like, and some will have mixed indica and sativa-like characteristics (mine did). A few of them actually will put out plants similar in structure and appearance to the clone only line, but these are rarer, and you may have to grow out a number of plants to find one like that.

Again, if you've got the space to grow these and don't have something else you'd rather grow in that space instead, I'd definitely keep them.

Here is a picture of the clone only GC.
Super smell and taste.



Hope that helps.

Hermied seeds are female seeds for fuck sake, Christ I don't believe people still say that the odd seed in weed will Hermie.

Half the breeders use stress to make females Hermie sothe can produce female seeds. If no males were present, the pollen produced only has female genetics thus making a female seed.

yes, there is a chance a Hermie plant will make a Hermie seed, but if its from a stable strain that doesn't normally have hermaphroditism as a trait it will be fine. Near enough every female plant will self pollinate if you leave it too long, or if it gets slightly stressed. These will be feminized seeds.

its a natural defence the plant does, it thinks its going to die so produces a few male flowers and pollinates itself so it can produce seed for the next generation!

there u go, some of u have been schooled, and maybe we can stop all this misinformation.

errm, if I remember correctly one of the most famous strains was from grateful dead bag seed!


this was aimed at the peeps who said there not Good seeds, it got me so infuriated I replied before seeing jogros post, hehe.

Also I'll add, that when u get seeds like this, I actually think their better than seeds that have been bred to be s1 if u get me. As to produce s1s u really have to stress the fuck outta the plant.

usually when u have bag seed, it's a naturally occurring thing (ie trying to reproduce) or slight stress. The plant wouldn't have been stressed so much.
thats just my take and don't know if there's any fact to it, but I have grown 3 beans that I've found in my grows, and everytime they've grown like the parent and haven't hermied on me.
i know the s1 seeds I'm growing from a clone selfed, look nothing like what the strain should look like, with the bag seeds the 3 I've grown have all been what I was expecting.
I'll get back to you once ive grown more of the s1 out, but so far I'm not impressed and won't bother with s1 again.

so from my experience and i Know it's not much but here's my take.

3 bag seeds I've found have all been near enough copies of the parent plant.
2 s1s I've grown have both been completely opposite from what I was expecting.

now I know that's not really a good representation but it does make the bag seeds look good and def worth growing!

Thanks guys, Ive got seven of these bagseed's sprouted so ill post some pics tomorrow to see what some of you guys think as far as the way they are growing. I don't know anything about the plant the seeds came from but I have been told it was GC so lets pray that's not bullshit haha

Nootnam said:

Thanks guys, Ive got seven of these bagseed's sprouted so ill post some pics tomorrow to see what some of you guys think as far as the way they are growing. I don't know anything about the plant the seeds came from but I have been told it was GC so lets pray that's not bullshit haha

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Well , its going to be tough to know what you've got until it flowers.

Assuming you're planting outdoors, and depending a bit on where you're located (latitude) you can expect the plants to start to make flowers until maybe the middle or end of July.

But once they do make flowers, you'll know if they're Green Crack S1 or not, because of the characteristic scent. Green crack gives off a very distinct mango-like fruity scent once it starts to make flowers. The scent reminds me of mango sorbet.

Im located in socal. And yes I am planting outdoors.

Im just hoping it has some GC trait involved because its one of my favorites and would love to grow it

Nootnam said:

Im located in socal. And yes I am planting outdoors.

Im just hoping it has some GC trait involved because its one of my favorites and would love to grow it

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Hell, if you're in SoCal, why not just find yourself some clones of the real deal?

Green Crack (aka "Dream Queen") is one of the most popular "clone only" strains out there and shouldn't be hard to find at all. Lots of dispensaries have these; if you don't have a medical card, maybe you can get a friend who does to buy you some.

You might even be able to find viable clones of this on Craig's list. They're "supposed" to be sold only to card holders, but I'm guessing if you've got cash, you'll probably be OK.

Jogro said:

Hell, if you're in SoCal, why not just find yourself some clones of the real deal?

Green Crack (aka "Dream Queen") is one of the most popular "clone only" strains out there and shouldn't be hard to find at all. Lots of dispensaries have these; if you don't have a medical card, maybe you can get a friend who does to buy you some.

You might even be able to find viable clones of this on Craig's list. They're "supposed" to be sold only to card holders, but I'm guessing if you've got cash, you'll probably be OK.

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Awesome, I have seen a lot of "Dream Queen" clones in dispensaries around her.. I do have my card so that is not a problem, the only problem is I grow outdoors and don't really have a place I can harden clones off at. I live with my parents and then say only outdoors for some reason, gotta respect that at least though at least I can do this at all right!?

But as far as not being able to tell the pheno till flower, I have noticed that a very specific trait in each seedling where some are stretching like crazy while others are growing much more stocky and tighter. All of them are in the same area getting the same sun so could this potentially tell me whether they are s1 or not?

Nootnam said:

Awesome, I have seen a lot of "Dream Queen" clones in dispensaries around her.. I do have my card so that is not a problem, the only problem is I grow outdoors and don't really have a place I can harden clones off at. I live with my parents and then say only outdoors for some reason, gotta respect that at least though at least I can do this at all right!?

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Apparently there are two different versions of green crack/dream queen out there in clone form, and although they have the same smell and appearance, one is much higher in THC than the other.

Please check my grow report on "Green Crack S1" for pretty much anything you'd want to know about this line (not just the S1, but also the clone only), including some discussion of the above from a SoCal professional MMJ grower/vendor.

But as far as not being able to tell the pheno till flower, I have noticed that a very specific trait in each seedling where some are stretching like crazy while others are growing much more stocky and tighter. All of them are in the same area getting the same sun so could this potentially tell me whether they are s1 or not?

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All that this tells you is that the plants have different "phenos" (or traits). Yes, you can start to see differences between different plants pretty early, when they are even less than a foot tall.

While it would be normal to see a bunch of different phenos with Green Crack S1, that would also be expected with any number of hybrids of Green Crack x Something Else. So you can't tell the difference just based on that.

HSO releasing green crack fem seeds. Looks like the tude will be throwing 1 in on the Oct. promo. It shows out of stock under the HSO tab. Any opinions?

Next pack I am getting is the "Green Lotus" from Bodhi and hopefully they still have enough in stock that I can order during Oct promo to get the HSO CG as a freebie.

Nineball said:

HSO releasing green crack fem seeds. Looks like the tude will be throwing 1 in on the Oct. promo. It shows out of stock under the HSO tab. Any opinions?

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Can't form an opinion until I've seen it, grown it, or at least know something about it.

Right now, there isn't even a Green Crack line listed on the HSO website. HSO Green Crack is listed at Attitude, but there is no picture, and no price, so I strongly suspect that the ad copy is a place holder for new product that is due to come in stock shortly.

How good this will be depends on what it is. If HSO's version is just a simple Green Crack S1, it should be identical to Sickmeds (and Riot Ceeds) version.

Again, this is not an exact replica of the clone only strain, but it will give you a "taste" of the original, and these have a tendency to go purple. See here for a recent outdoor British grow of same:

For what its worth as of this posting Sickmeds GCS1 appears to be out of stock at most of the ceed banks, but I know Sickmeds is working on restocking, and when they did offer this, it was at a fairly reasonable price of $80 USD for 10 fem ceeds (plus if you order direct from the breeder, you may get some nice freebies).

Now, if HSO has actually tried to inbreed its own version of Green Crack that could be more interesting. I know someone who basically did this privately, but I don't know of any commercially available inbred version of Green Crack.

IMO, the best things about the original line are the flavor and fast finish. You can legitimately get something of good potency, great taste, that's easy to grow and has good plant structure done in 7 weeks. I think anyone trying to inbreed a version of this would probably have a hard time nailing down all the positive features of the "clone only" line in stable ceed form.

Sickmeds green crack was the WORST strain ever grown in 15 years of buying seeds. Short, low yielding, low potency, crappy purple sweet garbage. I got nothing good to say about Sickmeds greencrack, Red of sickmeds is a good dude though....

This gc cross caught my eye. MTG seeds
Cosmic Charlie


(LSD OG) X (Green Crack)
Sativa Dominant
Yield-Heavy
Flowering Time: 10 weeks
Outdoor – 3rd Week of October
Cosmic Charlie produces a very cerebral, creative effect with zero couch-lock. The high seems to have no ceiling, an allows you to just keep going and going until you reach that creative spot you needed. When growing, the sativa genetic show themselves as the plant likes to grow tall. As flowering sets in, the tall plant really fills in the bud structure and will provide a surprising yield. The flavor combines the earthy Kush with sweet hints of pine and even lime.