Green Dragon

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
I think if you made your own absinthe (as most of the ones online suck balls), and then made your own green dragon.. it would be badass!
 

flipsidesw

New Member
I got a couple of bottle of lucid.. I think its good it does what it claims to do.. A clear head drunk... It just seems to take forever to wear off...
 

Big P

Well-Known Member
yo shep


this decab thing is driving me batty


i put 4 grams in the oven just now at 220 F


so you are pretty sure i wont have to decarb it 1 whole hour?


how long do you think it will take for the decarb to occur fully at 220 f?

im thinking of trying 45 min.
 

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
okay.. I don't rly know how else to put this..

Take a chopstick (like the one you eat chinese food with), Hold one end in one hand and the other end in the other hand. Snap it in half.. you either 1) Do not break the chopstick, or 2) break the chopstick.

It shouldn't matter how long, as long as the bond breaks it has been decarboxylated. I already posted a time and temp way back.. "150-200 F for maybe 10-15 minutes."
 

nad90

Active Member
what do you guys think about kief being used in green dragon? think more surface are would have an effect?
 

Troglart

Well-Known Member
what do you guys think about kief being used in green dragon? think more surface are would have an effect?
what do you mean as in more surface area?
as far as kief being used i think you would have some strong green dragon using pure kief, put your grinder to better use lol.. but i mean why use kief also when u could make hash and save stems / leaves (or if you pollinate ur bud for seeds, use the pollinated buds also if u wanna put it to better use bcuz the smoke isnt as good)
 

Troglart

Well-Known Member
i guess so, everything is ground up already into a powder but yeah keif would be better for that since it is powder
 

Troglart

Well-Known Member
sounds great man, im guessing that your going the path that doesnt require heating the alcohol + baked weed over a stove with fire risk, ive never done this method (yet) but im going to so i can answer questions about it.. maybe even make GD my signature thing about me like "Hey ask troglart about how to make some dank green dragon for cheap", idk its kinda funny to say about myself but green dragon had caught my interest ever since i took enough to make me stupid high with my friends until i woke up partially high the next day, ide like to help any1 else make this amazing drink in any possible manner because, when made right, will get a stoner with the highest tolerance (ide like to say i have a high tolerance since it takes me atleast 1 joint of the dankest u can find to get me satisfied with how high i am) higher then a kite
 

Troglart

Well-Known Member
oh and with stems.. i made a batch of pure stems in alcohol.. i dont think i took enough to get me fucked up .but if your primarily using stems / leaves along with the ground up baked bud (or just the stems as a replacement) u need alot more then 1/2 a gram per 1 fl oz of alcohol extract (if using my method) to make it, because the stems just dont equal up in THC value then the alcohol. so for my next batch of pure stems.. im going to use 1 fl oz of alcohol and 1 gram of stems and take whatever it makes and see how that works.

Also for those just reading this.. Upon making green dragon if you drink a bit of alcohol (a beer or so should cut it) it will intensify the high a small bit (no not bcuz ur tipsy). Also, the time ive been the most fucked up off green dragon.. i didnt drink another drink with it, but actually i rolled a blunt of JUST MIDS and by the time the blunt was done and i finished my drink (within the same 5 mins) i was speeding through the wait time on green dragon to hit you like it was almost instant.. so for best results with your green dragon roll a blunt and crack a beer right after you finish ur drink and you will be FADED
 

Big P

Well-Known Member
ya i noticed that too like if you take a drink it helps your body process the dragon faster.


I also notice if you make what we call "Green Lizard" which is using oilive oil instead of alcohol (used for people who cant drink or dont want to drink alcahol)


noticed if you eat food somtimes it helps it hit faster too.


i made a batch last night, 1 pint or 12 shots of drink wih 10 grams primo bud


took 2 shots and was pretty tossed. i couldnt stop eating, that shit will give you munchies at critical mass, then i passed out like before 10 pm

woke up 2:30 am starving lol

rolled outa bed and started eating a bag of chips lol.


man i ate too much last night


so last night I was a level 2 dragon slayer


i went to level 2 and so did my buddy so thats 4 shots outa a 12 shot bottle. i got 8 shots left:mrgreen:


its hard not to take more when its just sittin in the freezer:eyesmoke:
 

Troglart

Well-Known Member
yo i definately think your using alot more bud then needed man, 10 grams for 12 shots.. i dont think theres enough alcohol in there to dissolve all the THCA n other cannabinoids. I took 2 shots from a 3 shot batch i made with just 1.5 grams of mids and 3 shots of lemon extract (83% alcohol) and it got me stupid
 

nad90

Active Member
if i were to say fuck boiling shit and just grind my shit up, and put it in my alcohol, do you guys think that putting this concoction in front of a dryer vent twice a week would be enough heat to get the reaction im looking for?

ps sorry for the rediculous question lol. creative thinkers lol.
 

Troglart

Well-Known Member
well if your worried about boiling it theres other methods, ive never heard of any1 trying that.. to answer ur question, technically, yes it will work, but it will change the potency of the green dragon, so you might need to change the amounts in the recipe

the potency (how much thc dissolved) of your green dragon relys on 3 main factors:
1. the amount of alcohol (volume and potentcy of the alcohol both vary, so 2 shot of alcohol with 40 proof would dissolve the same as one with 80 proof
2. the amount of thc (less bud is needed when using regs vs some chronic)
3. temperature (heat in this case)

the solubility (amount of material a liquid can absorb) of a liquid increases when the temperature increases, so if i was boiling my green dragon to 160 degree as opposed to letting it sit at 80 degrees, ide be able to absorb 2 times more thc into the boiling alcohol. Although this doesnt mean you are going to waste any thc, all you need is to use more alcohol in the recipe to absorb the remaining thc in the bud, the only difference is you need to drink more of it to get as high, which is fine because it makes alot of it

basically think of it in terms of prices vs weight on regs vs chronic

you have $100 dollars (or in the recipe, the amount of bud (thc) being used). you could buy 1/4 oz of chronic for $100 or an oz of regs (regs vs chronic = non-boiled green dragon vs boiled green dragon) either way you get your moneys worth but youde have to smoke alot more regs (drink alot more unboiled green dragon) to get as high as off the chronic((boiled green dragon), but theres so much more of it
 

Twistedfunk

Active Member
Fun Fact: Properly cured marijuana is already decarbed. All you are talking about doing is quick-decarbing for the sake of ingestion. You could do the exact same thing with properly cured pot and not have to go on about all this decarbing. So what happens when your properly cured weed is put in the oven at high temps? A shit load of the active ingredients that you associate with being "stoned/high" get evaporated or damaged. Just use cured buds to make green dragon.

(queue music) THE MORE YOU KNOW...
 

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
Fun Fact: Properly cured marijuana is already decarbed. All you are talking about doing is quick-decarbing for the sake of ingestion. You could do the exact same thing with properly cured pot and not have to go on about all this decarbing. So what happens when your properly cured weed is put in the oven at high temps? A shit load of the active ingredients that you associate with being "stoned/high" get evaporated or damaged. Just use cured buds to make green dragon.

(queue music) THE MORE YOU KNOW...
May I see a source for that please?
 

Twistedfunk

Active Member
May I see a source for that please?
check the Harvesting and Curing section for details. I collect information from credible sources...not the sources themselves. I realize that by not providing the sources my information may seem somewhat less credible and for that I apologize but it should be easy enough to find.
 

Big P

Well-Known Member
check the Harvesting and Curing section for details. I collect information from credible sources...not the sources themselves. I realize that by not providing the sources my information may seem somewhat less credible and for that I apologize but it should be easy enough to find.

i think you are correct but at room temp i think it takes atleast 1 year to get it close to fully decarbed, and 1 year old weed will begin to degrade at room temperature and that coupled with the fact that you may not have exactly 1 year old weed to get the full % decarb for 100% strengtht, i would still put it in the oven as long as you keep it under 240 Deg F, no active ingidiants will be vaporized

cannabinoids will begin vaporizing at 240 deg f to 400 deg f

THC beging one of the last to vaporize starting at around 360 Deg f


decarbing at these low temps 230 deg f, will take about 45 - 60 min to compleatly decarb your weed to give you the most punch for your reefer punch
 
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