Green Planet Nutes - Terpinator

Ok , I'm finally running low on my host nute line of : Fox Farm and have been pretty happy. But came across this particular line while scoping out maybe something else to try. I was thinking GH or another 2 part like my DYNA Gro but was curios if any of you used Green Planet.

And NO I'm not going to go AN ( I would have to knock over a bank ) just get the goods.

And was looking into at least the TERPINATOR additive. I know it has LIMONENE which is a citrus based product and I do pop a few lemony strains here and there but am wondering on anyone using it in the field.

Just an honest answer from those that ACTUALLY used it. Or propose a nice NO-FRILLS NUTE LINE TO TRY.

I AM A SOIL / SOILESS GROWER.
Thanks

I've run Terpinator several times. I'll give it a mild thumbs down... It does work but there's a few problems.

-Terpinator does work but you have to use it at full strength or double strength to start to "smell" benefits... very subjective on smell tho' but I think it does have more stank to them.

-If you look at the MSDS of Terpinator, they list "potassium sulfate" as the chemical composition.
http://media.hydroponics.net/item-documents/terpinator/140658/749300_msds.pdf I would look for a cheaper source.

- I would look at alternate sources of sulfur, like so-po-mag. Or make sure your fertilizer has a significant ammount of sulfur in the guarnteed analysis of of the ingredients. For example Flora Nova Bloom has 2% sulfur. If running soil I would rather run langebenite if my mix didn't already have it instead of terpinator.

My own data point suggests it is a watered down additive...

I run recycled organic soil now but I have used Terpinator many times in the past. It does seem to increase the olafactory attributes of your strains but I'm still not convinced that equates to greater potency. Though the smell of your plants in bloom might be more lemony pungent the overall taste of the bud was not as good as what I can get from using soil amendments & compost only. I assume that is due to the chelated salts present in all bottled liquid nutrients. I stopped using Terpinator a few cycles ago & notice no change in potency. Not saying don't use it but I agree it seems to be more hype than anything else.

Richard Drysift said:

I run recycled organic soil now but I have used Terpinator many times in the past. It does seem to increase the olafactory attributes of your strains but I'm still not convinced that equates to greater potency. Though the smell of your plants in bloom might be more lemony pungent the overall taste of the bud was not as good as what I can get from using soil amendments & compost only. I assume that is due to the chelated salts present in all bottled liquid nutrients. I stopped using Terpinator a few cycles ago & notice no change in potency. Not saying don't use it but I agree it seems to be more hype than anything else.

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Agreed, there seems to be anecdotal evidence that terpinator enhances smell.. Myself included, Ive used it on several strains with and without and Terpinator treated strains have an enhanced smell or so it seems. For example.. I didn't double bag some chemdog and I was having coffee and the waitress kept walking by saying.. somebody smells good!..

But I've had the same experience with girl scout cookies, in organic soil.. I think a well ammended super soil does the same thing.. I dont always tell people that the GSC I was growing was hydro or soil but I can tell you this.. I ran out of the organic cookies way faster than the GSC hydro/terpinator cookies.

As far as the chelation comment, I can say with certainty that the formula is potassium sulfate.. and asking Rizoflora whats in this stuff and they say "proprietary", I agree with you that there might be a chelating agent in there.. It seems logical to have that.

Thanks for the responses , was curious but it seems the LIMONENE component will dominate the smell , making a " fruitier " or " lemony " smell , which isn't always what I want from my grows. I prefer the different characteristics that strains have , earthy , piney , caramel or whatever. I don't want to MASK or change the flavor profile the weed.

Is their any " supplements " or additives that are nice finishers or stick with molasses ?
I actually have gotten some more sugar from UVB but I don't like running those bulbs a lot because of its exposure issues.

I use Floralicious Bloom. It's fermented seaweed, it smells awful.

Budzbuddha said:

Thanks for the responses , was curious but it seems the LIMONENE component will dominate the smell , making a " fruitier " or " lemony " smell , which isn't always what I want from my grows. I prefer the different characteristics that strains have , earthy , piney , caramel or whatever. I don't want to MASK or change the flavor profile the weed.
Is their any " supplements " or additives that are nice finishers or stick with molasses ?
I actually have gotten some more sugar from UVB but I don't like running those bulbs a lot because of its exposure issues.

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Lets look at this as an example:

Im sure that we all know about DJ Short and his breeding work with blueberry strains. Read his book "Cultivating Exceptional Cannabis".. anyways I'll summarize.

He advocates organic soil growing.. and the use of guano's bat and seabird during blooming.
He also prefers sunlight grown cannabis vs HID grown.
If he does use HID, he uses a HPS:MH in 1:1. However he does mention it give it better color, no reference to flavor

So if you use DJ's data points... Indoor HPS Hydro weed is the least favorable conditions,

Lastly I'll throw this in.. This applies to wine grapes but still.. in viticulture, there seems to be some suggestion that the high mineral content of the soil gives the wine a superior flavor.. Of course that high mineral soil is in France, like the champagane region... I guess the subsoil has lots of sea shells..

Here's my data point..

I too have found that hydro tends to exaggerate the lemon/citrus notes.. as well as calyx size. Potency and weight is good however the structure and aroma tends to be diffferent. Sometimes the colors and crystals are better in hydro.

I found that HPS/MH in a ratio of 2:1 works best if one does not want to use UV lights for supplementation. I have also experimented with 10,000Kelvin lights and potency seemed to be improved, as far as sativa dominant strains, however it seemed to lengthen ripen times. Ive had great success with 2:1 and everytime I do a grow I try to incorporate MH.

Ive noticed when using only MH with plants like chives grown in hydro.. They have a sharper onion flavor than the sungrown counterpart albiet smaller. I too have noticed this with MH only with cannabis.. smaller but very potent small flowers.

Lastly I'll say that I've tried many resin boosters, flavor enhancers, hardners (non PGR) etc.. And since I run dirt and hydro in some setups I can see if it really works.. they kinda have some effect but its either not as good as advertised or has an unwanted side effect... Like foxtailing. etc.. I'm curious, so I'll continue to try them but I know that a quality hydro nutrient should have most of the things needed to create flavor.. This goes with soil, a well fed soil should grow a plant without any additives and give superior structure and flavor.