Greenhouse seeds ...WHY?!

smokejoint

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That whiteberry looks great.What was the high like? I like my weed to be strong.. if it was strong smoke i would really consider it for the short flower time
 

Corso312

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Basing that on my and some friends/relatives past experience and thousands of others on this site and many other sites...suggestion? buy from a different breeder...I am not a fan of the Dutch..they have been getting by on name recognition for many years..they have been surpassed by hundreds if not thousands of breeders in the past 5 years.
 

smokejoint

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Oh right so let me see if i understand.You can diss breeders but you havent got any recommendations.That gives you 0 credebility and i think i will just overlook your (not so ) helpful comments from here on.
 

Corso312

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My recommendation was "to try another breeder" smart ass......The options are endless..give someone else try and you may just be surprised at the quality.
 

themanwiththeplan

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That whiteberry looks great.What was the high like? I like my weed to be strong.. if it was strong smoke i would really consider it for the short flower time

The high is good. I consider white berry an "all day" smoke. its something you wouldnt regret smoking in the morning to get the day goin or @ nite to unwind/go to sleep.

The breeder description is pretty accurate (which is always appreciated when buying beans online) heres what it says:

"White Berry is very fast to flower and particularly well suited to sea of green grows. This is model marijuana, slender and medium in height, with fresh green good looks and a single-cola dominance and homogeneity between the plants. The calyx-to-leaf ratio is good news for weed manicurists, because she is easy to trim.

White Berry becomes bejeweled with trichomes that frost her buds, and she generates a decidedly berry perfume. White Berry’s hybridized genetics create a complex and versatile smoke. The typical result is a crystalline Sativa head high. But when smoked in higher quantities, an Indica-style body stone comes forward.

Tokers who smoke lightly throughout the day, but want a deeper stone at night, may find that White Berry meets all their needs in one attractive, easy-growing package."
It also says its 15-18% thc.
Says effect is happy, lucid but i disagree. i think its much more diverse than that. if you smoke more than a moderate dose the indica properties will come forward and you'll get droopy eyelids, drowsy, relaxed etc. if you only smoke a decent amount its more "get stuff done" weed. very sativa like.


you said you like strong weed. my question is how strong is strong? this isnt mids by no means. ive heard of it fetching $300-340 in some clubs even in california. not that alone should determine if its any good im just asking because ive smoked some strains that blow this out of the water in terms of potency but i dont consider this some "light" or "below avg potency" marijuana. i think its definitely above avg and i give bonus points for being a good all around smoke (usually i have "night" mj and "Daytime" mj i grow but with white berry i can use both so thats always nice

that video you saw is alllll white berry plants i trained in a unique way (tied the main colas BACK so it created a huge canopy. kinda SCROG like but with LST materials on hand kinda lol) but these plants do grow very uniform. not clones in seed form exactly but i think only 1 was different from the rest in general appearance (thats the one that smelled like starburst. one of the best smelling plants i ever grew.)

its not hard to grow by any means. its genetically 75% indica (which is weird since it smokes like a sativa dominant) so its not as "fussy" as say a 75% sativa. it stays pretty short. i highly suggest topping/fim and/or LST to increase yield.

my yield seemed on point with the breeders suggestion of 400-450g indoor per m2 indoors since i fell less than 1 oz short of 1lb (448g is a lb and i was less than 28g away from it)

btw. white berry is white widow x blueberry.



if theres anything else i can answer about white berry let me know.
 

smokejoint

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Thanks .BTW i grow a similar way.. I top them at the 5th node grow them to about a foot and flower them and then when they have started to stretch i tie down the main stems to allow the lower branches to catch up . .I guess when i say strong i mean a smoke you WOULD regret smoking in the morning.I'm a night time toker only.I am heavily considering tora bora now....looks sick
 

Jogro

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Heres the problem , the 3 strains of theirs i'm interested in and have watched the video .The final THC content conflicts with the advertised thc content in all 3 plants.
The question pretty much answers itself, doesn't it?

If you need more explanation, here the two best ones:


-Shhhh. . .some breeders LIE about the potency of their strains. That 22% THC number? The "laboratory" that quantified that number was located in the ceed-seller's ass. Want to make ANY strain test at 22% THC?. . .Sprinkle some extra kief in your sample prior to testing, and voila. . .very impressive numbers.

A "few" of the name ceed houses in particular, have earned a reputation of shall we say less than stellar business practices. For example, Arjan Roskam of Greenhouse seeds was caught RED HANDED bribing Judges at a High Times Cannabis Cup in 2003 and had two cup wins that year taken away. But of course every cup win BEFORE and AFTER that. . .THOSE were all perfectly on the up and up. (LMAO!)

-Now in terms of strains ACTUALLY tested, theoretical potency (ie "up to 20% THC") and actual potency will often diverge.

When you see strains tested at 20%+ THC, typically you're looking at the best possible cut (the tippy-top bud from the top cola) of the absolute best pheno, grown perfectly, harvested at its absolute peak, manicured to perfection, cured perfectly and then tested immediately.

Take the exact same strain, grow it in your basement WITHOUT selecting the best pheno from 20 grown plants, harvest at the time listed in the ad copy (which is in reality 2-3 weeks sooner than the OPTIMAL time!), trim it normally, then test an AVERAGE bud, and you're likely to see quite a difference in potency.
 

Jogro

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I am a closet grower with very limited space.I can only grow 1 plant at a time so i need fem beans ,which mr nice does not do unfortunatley ,and before you start dissing fem beans i have never had 1 single seed in my weed from fem beans.
I'm not dissing fem beans, but I reject your premise entirely. Plenty of people do sex-selection of plants in areas smaller than a closet on a routine basis.

If you have the room to grow one plant to maturity, then you have the room to grow 2-3 plants in vegetative mode in small containers to sexual maturity to find one that is female. You can do this in 16 ounce cups in a space the size of a bookshelf (or smaller) if you need to.

I've seen nine-plant grows in an area 2x2 feet.

You may like the convenience of feminized seeds, but you don't "need" them.
 

canna_420

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Try female seeds C99 or grapefruit C99 is awsome fast, squat Sativa leaning hybrid with 10-10 bag,quality both love LST or SCROG, VERY impressing wnen you get it out to share
GF is a C99 hybrid ... enough siad.

Female seeds have better quality than GHS and have alot of them famous strains . (Widow, Bubblegum,AK47 etc) plus a 4 pack is cheap

Dinafem have good seeds to. But experience tells me they lie to as their Cheese is just a good skunk nothing like UK Cheese.

Barnies is another company that rushes seeds so quality can be hit n miss, but i keep a cracking blue cheese of BF



here is an example order

NameOptionsQuantityCost

C'99 Option 1: feminised
Option 2: 4
£21.49

2x Kandy Kush Reg n/a1FREE

1x White Widow x Blueberry Fem n/a1FREE

1x Auto Sweet Tooth Fem n/a1FREE

1x Auto Somango Fem n/a1FREE

1x Black Domina x OG Fem n/a1FREE


11% discount code :rollitup


I got 2 them freebies cracking now (the non autos)
 

smokejoint

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werid that canna ,before i came to read these replys i was just considering females c99..spooky lol

I really dont know what to go for though i don't want anything that would keep my awake at night ,i have pretty moderate insomnia as it is.

jorgo , i know what your saying i proably could grow 4 or 5 and sex them ,but why bother when i can take 1 seed plant it and voila ,no messing about potting and repotting 5 plants ,no wasted soil ,no headaches disposing of males..plus i have a gf who is accepting of the situation on a 1 plant only basis ,if she seen me potting up 5 plants she'd go mental.
 

calicat

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i see lol , whats the oppinion on barneys farm? The vanilla or violator kush interest me also
In my experience with Barney's Farm is that some of their seeds take longer to germinate than other companies. Some of their strains if you get the phenotype you do not want takes forever to finish. If you get winner(s) in terms of sound germination rates, great genetics, and you get over the hurdles thrwon at you from time to time you will be content. I probably won't run mutliple plants of their strains in the near future but maybe single seeds like those two you mentioned never grew those before and I hear both are pretty kick ass.
 

calicat

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werid that canna ,before i came to read these replys i was just considering females c99..spooky lol

I really dont know what to go for though i don't want anything that would keep my awake at night ,i have pretty moderate insomnia as it is.

jorgo , i know what your saying i proably could grow 4 or 5 and sex them ,but why bother when i can take 1 seed plant it and voila ,no messing about potting and repotting 5 plants ,no wasted soil ,no headaches disposing of males..plus i have a gf who is accepting of the situation on a 1 plant only basis ,if she seen me potting up 5 plants she'd go mental.
Mosca seeds have a bomb representation of the famous C99.
 

themanwiththeplan

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Thanks .BTW i grow a similar way.. I top them at the 5th node grow them to about a foot and flower them and then when they have started to stretch i tie down the main stems to allow the lower branches to catch up . .I guess when i say strong i mean a smoke you WOULD regret smoking in the morning.I'm a night time toker only.I am heavily considering tora bora now....looks sick
oh i see. if you're a night smoker only then you probably want a lights out indica instead of white berry. i found white berry to be a good all day smoke and only indica properties come out if you smoke a little more than you normally would to get a high (2 bowls instead of 1 etc)

if you want a lights out indica you could give sensi star a shot from paradise seeds. its a very heavy indica. one of my fav indicas ive ever grown (just so happens to also be from paradise seeds). they say 20% thc and i'd have to agree with them. the plant doesnt grow very tall (remember its like 90-95% indica). good idea to top/fim for as many main colas as possible. super sticky. pungent aroma. nothing too extreme but no fruity-sativa like smells here. theres so many trichs that you could literally smoke the trim (not fan leaves obviously) lol.

good above avg yield (3oz or so per plant under a 600w)

i say its really good for insomnia/sleep, relaxing and pain.

other than that you could try dinafem's california hash plant. its 90% indica as well.
 

smokejoint

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its between whiteberry and grapefruit now.I may go with grapefruit as it is advertised as low odour...unless the whiteberry doesn;t stink alot ...does it?
 

themanwiththeplan

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its between whiteberry and grapefruit now.I may go with grapefruit as it is advertised as low odour...unless the whiteberry doesn;t stink alot ...does it?
White berry didnt stink very much. if anything it had a fruity/floral scent while growing (except one pheno i got different from the rest smelled like starburst. like literally a package of starburst) but nothing super strong or skunk/stinky typical "pot stench". it was more refined than that.

ive never grown grapefruit though (ive wanted to) so i cant compare the smell between them but i'd place white berry low on the list of "most stinky strains ive grown".
 
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