Greenhouse Train Wreck Area 51 XGS190 LED. Goatlicker.

Same here man. Running one seed at a time is risky with any company. If anything pop 2-5 and go with the best looking. I run one plant at a time too, but will run a couple tiny plants on the side to find better cuts.

A lot of it is in your hands, keep it healthy and it will do you good.

TW is awesome smoke. Great for pain relief and sleep aid which are two thibgs i need. Hooefully you have a couple seeds. Run through them and youll find a nice one

hydroMD said:

Same here man. Running one seed at a time is risky with any company. If anything pop 2-5 and go with the best looking. I run one plant at a time too, but will run a couple tiny plants on the side to find better cuts.

A lot of it is in your hands, keep it healthy and it will do you good.

TW is awesome smoke. Great for pain relief and sleep aid which are two thibgs i need. Hooefully you have a couple seeds. Run through them and youll find a nice one

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Yeah thats the problem, its really hard to get seeds from where i am, and only have good feminized seeds that i got in from over seas.. thank fuck.
I only pop one at a time and hope/baby the plant so that one plant gets my full attention.
Hopefully she comes out alright, i'll keep ya's posted with new pictures etc.

goatlicker said:

Okay, it sits around 30-45 now, i've put a wet towel in there.

I'm already real skeptical about it now i've heard all this stuff and feel as if its going to turn out shit
and waste my time as i only grow one plant at a time so it will fuck me over if it does :S

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I wouldn't worry too much about the bad reviews, always go with your own experience. If your TW is no good, take it as a lesson learned and stay away from GHS. I have some White Rhino on the way from GHS and I too read some bad reviews but I'm not sweating it, one thing about bad reviews, you usually know nothing about the reviewer or their grow setup. It also doesn't help that people who never grew their seeds also spread the rumor of bad seeds because they read a review.

Look into DNA, everything I have ran from them thus far has been great, they have a good reputation and lots of folks grow their plants and produce nice looking crops.

I order all my seeds from overseas too, I will not ever order a pack of GHS. They do horrible things, if you can trust the person how can you trust their genetics?

I just don't want to see you get burned in the end.

Sannies ships to Australia i think? his tealth in pretty good in my oopinion, and the strains in sanniesshop are very good.

a long time go i grew only 1 plant at the time aswell.. now i have too many plants ahahaha . Irecommend you to grow from regular seeds if you grow only solo plants.. i know it souds dumb, but its a question of stability! Regular seeds dont hermie very well unless they are super unstable. And any good breeder would never release bad/unstable genetics. A breeders work is their pride!

Other than that all i can say is make sure to make your homework when it comes down to chosing strains .

er0senin said:

i know it souds dumb, but its a question of stability! Regular seeds dont hermie very well unless they are super unstable. And any good breeder would never release bad/unstable genetics

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The same can be said about feminized seeds. Sex switching is a genetic trait that is already built into the plant. Also more common in equatorial sativa strains.

DJ Short article that talks about hermie traits being more common in landrace Sativas:

http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/2788.html

Also a study published by Erin Irish at Yale University that goes into detail about sex switching being a DNA trait (cannabis is a dioecious plant)

http://m.plantcell.org/content/16/suppl_1/S61?cited-by=yes&legid=plantcell;16/suppl_1/S61

Like you said a good breeder wouldn't release unstable genetics. A good breeder would breed this trait out of their strain.

(Not arguing about quality of GHS gear, just trying to pass on some good information.)

Mr.Head said:

Look into DNA, everything I have ran from them thus far has been great, they have a good reputation and lots of folks grow their plants and produce nice looking crops.

I order all my seeds from overseas too, I will not ever order a pack of GHS. They do horrible things, if you can trust the person how can you trust their genetics?

I just don't want to see you get burned in the end.

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er0senin said:

Sannies ships to Australia i think? his tealth in pretty good in my oopinion, and the strains in sanniesshop are very good.

a long time go i grew only 1 plant at the time aswell.. now i have too many plants ahahaha . Irecommend you to grow from regular seeds if you grow only solo plants.. i know it souds dumb, but its a question of stability! Regular seeds dont hermie very well unless they are super unstable. And any good breeder would never release bad/unstable genetics. A breeders work is their pride!

Other than that all i can say is make sure to make your homework when it comes down to chosing strains .

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BDOGKush said:

The same can be said about feminized seeds. Sex switching is a genetic trait that is already built into the plant. Also more common in equatorial sativa strains.

DJ Short article that talks about hermie traits being more common in landrace Sativas:

http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/2788.html

Also a study published by Erin Irish at Yale University that goes into detail about sex switching being a DNA trait (cannabis is a dioecious plant)

http://m.plantcell.org/content/16/suppl_1/S61?cited-by=yes&legid=plantcell;16/suppl_1/S61

Like you said a good breeder wouldn't release unstable genetics. A good breeder would breed this trait out of their strain.

(Not arguing about quality of GHS gear, just trying to pass on some good information.)

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Well that sort of comforted me a bit on this train wreck BDOGKush.

I will grow her out and hope for the best i guess.. If it fucks out i won't be ordering GHS again

These are my other seeds i have for now.. which ones are good and bad? :-/

Barneys - Lsd.
Barneys - Liberty Haze
Greenhouse - Jack Herer
Royal Queen - Flower power.
Kerala x skunk#1.
Greenhouse - Super Lemon Haze.
Greenhouse - Train wreck.
White widow x Bug bud
Barneys - Pineapple Chunk.

Those are all nice strains

hydroMD said:

Those are all nice strains

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So shouldn't have a problem with the rest of them breeders etc? and what about the other greenhouse strains?

goatlicker said:

So shouldn't have a problem with the rest of them breeders etc? and what about the other greenhouse strains?

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If you grow a plant correctly you should be happy with anything... some will just suite you better

BDOGKush said:

The same can be said about feminized seeds. Sex switching is a genetic trait that is already built into the plant. Also more common in equatorial sativa strains.

DJ Short article that talks about hermie traits being more common in landrace Sativas:

http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/2788.html

Also a study published by Erin Irish at Yale University that goes into detail about sex switching being a DNA trait (cannabis is a dioecious plant)

http://m.plantcell.org/content/16/suppl_1/S61?cited-by=yes&legid=plantcell;16/suppl_1/S61

Like you said a good breeder wouldn't release unstable genetics. A good breeder would breed this trait out of their strain.

(Not arguing about quality of GHS gear, just trying to pass on some good information.)

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thank you for good links!
repect!

goatlicker said:

Well that sort of comforted me a bit on this train wreck BDOGKush.

I will grow her out and hope for the best i guess.. If it fucks out i won't be ordering GHS again

These are my other seeds i have for now.. which ones are good and bad? :-/

Barneys - Lsd.
Barneys - Liberty Haze
Greenhouse - Jack Herer
Royal Queen - Flower power.
Kerala x skunk#1.
Greenhouse - Super Lemon Haze.
Greenhouse - Train wreck.
White widow x Bug bud
Barneys - Pineapple Chunk.

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from this list ive grown only the pineapple chunk. Very potent strain, but all my phenos had to flower over 100 days (not even close to 60 days as they say..) and it was very sativa. It also had very low tolerance to mould and low temperatures (16c so not rly that low imo..). The smoke was great tho, and no hermies . but just saying the plants i grew were NOTHING like the description!

I did grow a liberty haze but my dog ate the sprout 2 days after it broke soil so... yea cant say much about that one
What breeder is the WW x BB ? If its female seeds they are OK plants. yields preatty good, but lacks a bit in potency (OBS my tolerance is waaaaay to high ) . also the calyx/leaf ratio was not very good :/ .

goatlicker said:

So shouldn't have a problem with the rest of them breeders etc? and what about the other greenhouse strains?

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Barney Farms and RQS are both quality breeders and like I said let your own experience determine what you think of GHS. Like hydroMD says, grown properly, all those seeds should give you good plants.

To add to my comment about feminized seeds. In The Grow Bible by Jorge Cervantes, he suggests stress testing for the hermie trait so you avoid breeding these weak genetics and claims any reputable breeder would include stress testing in their genetic program.

er0senin said:

from this list ive grown only the pineapple chunk. Very potent strain, but all my phenos had to flower over 100 days (not even close to 60 days as they say..) and it was very sativa. It also had very low tolerance to mould and low temperatures (16c so not rly that low imo..). The smoke was great tho, and no hermies . but just saying the plants i grew were NOTHING like the description!

I did grow a liberty haze but my dog ate the sprout 2 days after it broke soil so... yea cant say much about that one
What breeder is the WW x BB ? If its female seeds they are OK plants. yields preatty good, but lacks a bit in potency (OBS my tolerance is waaaaay to high ) . also the calyx/leaf ratio was not very good :/ .

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BDOGKush said:

Barney Farms and RQS are both quality breeders and like I said let your own experience determine what you think of GHS. Like hydroMD says, grown properly, all those seeds should give you good plants.

To add to my comment about feminized seeds. In The Grow Bible by Jorge Cervantes, he suggests stress testing for the hermie trait so you avoid breeding these weak genetics and claims any reputable breeder would include stress testing in their genetic program.

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Niceee, yeah some of the pictures of my buds don't match the description of what i'm growing last two grows at least lol.
I not sure what breeder the WWxBB is.. sucks your dog ate your Haze lol.
Yeah true that bigdog, i've got the hang of growing and my grow space so i should be alright, i hope!

Few updated pictures.. shes growing quite slow it seems? Loadssss of stretch at the start even though my light was
at the correct distance it should be.. bought it down a little now though, but its stopped stretching. 4 days old? i think.

doesnt look that strechy . See the stretch between internodes . Anyways if/when you replant it, you can just burrow it a bit deeper so that the soil is right below the first set of leaves

Very nice looking seedling, second picture really shows that its loving that light. Looks like its about to pop it's next set of leaves out in a day or two.

er0senin said:

doesnt look that strechy . See the stretch between internodes . Anyways if/when you replant it, you can just

BDOGKush said:

Very nice looking seedling, second picture really shows that its loving that light. Looks like its about to pop it's next set of leaves out in a day or two.

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burrow it a bit deeper so that the soil is right below the first set of leaves

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Oh that's good to know then haha.
Any suggestions on what I should do this time in terms of mainlining etc? I liked the main line but it took so long veg wise.

Dont mainline trainwreck. Top then supercrop. Only way to get any kind of a yield with it is get as many tops to the canopy as possible.

Plus your in here worrying about plants being finicky and now your about to perform one of the most brutal training techniques there is!

IMO this isnt a good mainlining strain because it grows fat baseball size nugs and the nodes are about 6" apart. The side shoots all stretch like crazy during flower so getting things even shouldnt be a problem.

Each nug does not need a lot of space to form either since they arent that tall.

This is not a high yielding plant just so you know But i love smoke.


this is a VERY average looking pheno of trainwreck. Its a bottom branch i took iff at 8 weeks. Going to see if the plant does anything special towards the end of 9.


Hope you find some of this info helpful bro.

This is a dried test nug pre cure. Trich coverage is slightly better than average for a whole, but below average for this phenotype. It is also the lowest yielding pheno every time ive got it. If i ever find a priducer, it will become a mother in my stable

You can see a blank seed in there but i took that at 7 weeks and it just went to jars today. Maybe 40 grams...


(Ill stop clogging your thread anytime, just ask )

hydroMD said:

Dont mainline trainwreck. Top then supercrop. Only way to get any kind of a yield with it is get as many tops to the canopy as possible.

Plus your in here worrying about plants being finicky and now your about to perform one of the most brutal training techniques there is!

IMO this isnt a good mainlining strain because it grows fat baseball size nugs and the nodes are about 6" apart. The side shoots all stretch like crazy during flower so getting things even shouldnt be a problem.

Each nug does not need a lot of space to form either since they arent that tall.

This is not a high yielding plant just so you know But i love smoke.


View attachment 3182200 this is a VERY average looking pheno of trainwreck. Its a bottom branch i took iff at 8 weeks. Going to see if the plant does anything special towards the end of 9.


Hope you find some of this info helpful bro.

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Damn. That's all good though!
I have no idea how to super crop, I do know how to top though. When do I top, how many nodes etc? And how many times.
don't worry bout my thread ask info is good thanking you