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whytewidow

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I have never seen this before turning solid black in veg. This is the sundae stallion. Yesterday was droopy. Today it looks 100 times better. But for some reason it's just two fans. I originally thought I was too hot on the soil mix. But now I'm not sure. It's only the two fans. On the samenose. Across from each other. It has black water?? Transpiring from the one. You can see the dot.

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greenpointseeds

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Thanks, yea I clicked checkout before I knew this info. Going back to my order now, I don't have the remove option. It's all good no worries. I'll have more nuggets by the time jelly pie comes back out or is restocked.
Wait, so you want to remove Gold Nuggets from an order you already made in your orders list?

Just wanna make sure I understand correctly. Sorry for any confusion.

Because if you want to remove the GN from an order you already made, that wouldn't work. Because then the equal amount in dollars would need to be covered. See what I mean?
 

ahlkemist

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God damn you're a douchebag. Still. You were a douchebag 5 years ago, still are.
I made a comment and deleted it but cannot for the love of god keep my mouth shut any longer. Ww nothing personal but instead of telling you how I really feel, Im just ignoring you. Your a god dab fucking moron . And a closed minded douche. No wonder you fucking kill everything. Shut the FUCK up!!
Oh I guess it slipped. And ignore. I'm so glad I don't gotta hear you any more
 

40AmpstoFreedom

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I have never seen this before turning solid black in veg. This is the sundae stallion. Yesterday was droopy. Today it looks 100 times better. But for some reason it's just two fans. I originally thought I was too hot on the soil mix. But now I'm not sure. It's only the two fans. On the samenose. Across from each other. It has black water?? Transpiring from the one. You can see the dot.

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If it was too hot all your tips would be burnt. That is indeed some pretty dark necrotic markings.

Curious why do you think the soil was too hot?

Any ideas of what certain nute you may have added too much of?

What is the pH of your soil run off?

I personally think given previous description you over watered that one bit much and it just locked something out for a bit.

Since the issue is on the lower oldest leaves I think you locked out a mobile nutrient. I think this was only temporary due to reason above.

By the way for anyone interested knowing mobile and immobile helps to diagnose things often.

Mobile nutrients are nitrogen in the form of nitrate, phosphorus (P) in the form of phosphate, potassium (K), magnesium (Mg), chlorine (Cl), zinc (Zn) and molybdene (Mo).

Calcium (Ca), sulfur (S), iron (Fe), boron (B) and copper (Cu) are immobile.
 
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whytewidow

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If it was too hot all your tips would be burnt. That is indeed some pretty dark necrotic markings.

Curious why do you think the soil was too hot?

Any ideas of what certain nute you may have added too much of?

What is the pH of your soil run off?

I personally think given previous description you over watered that one bit much and it just locked something out for a bit.

Since the issue is on the lower oldest leaves I think you locked out a mobile nutrient. I think this was only temporary due to reason above.

By the way for anyone interested knowing mobile and immobile helps to diagnose things often.

Mobile nutrients are nitrogen in the form of nitrate, phosphorus (P) in the form of phosphate, potassium (K), magnesium (Mg), chlorine (Cl), zinc (Zn) and molybdene (Mo).

Calcium (Ca), sulfur (S), iron (Fe), boron (B) and copper (Cu) are immobile.
I thought it may have been to hot bc I used ffof I normally use promix bx. Those black Mark's weren't there yesterday. Or I didnt notice them. Or they were jus smaller and I didnt see them. I didnt think it was nute burn. I've jus nvr seen dark black spots like that. I was shocked how nice it looked at lights on. Then I pulled the plant out to check it for sexing and noticed them. It's in the middle of the plant. Like say nose 7 out of 13 nodes total.

Edit: I dont add separate nutes. I use megacrop. All in one. And it's only had I think one or two feedings of 1 gram per gallon. Max is 5 grams. Possibly the ffof soil i used. It's the only plant with that soil. Everything else is promix.
 

40AmpstoFreedom

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Yeah rest of plant looks great. I would just wait it out. Worst thing obviously is to over react. You aren't adding any nutes to FFOF are you? That stuff is solid until around day 36 or so of flowering. After that I would start feeding based on what plant is telling you.

If you start to notice some leaves sort of cupping up and becoming twisted at serrations from the stem of leaf forward towards tips it is pH issue locking something out. Mobile nutrients always show issues on older leaves going up the plant because those are the ones transferring/processing nutes upward. Immobile nutrient deficiencies always appear on newer growth first.
 

40AmpstoFreedom

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Edit: I dont add separate nutes. I use megacrop. All in one. And it's only had I think one or two feedings of 1 gram per gallon. Max is 5 grams. Possibly the ffof soil i used. It's the only plant with that soil. Everything else is promix.
Ok I missed your edit and that was key. You may know this but if you are growing soil-less you have to treat the FFOF completely different. It's soil so definitely needs ph of 6.5-6.8. Soil-less is always lower because its getting ever closer to hydro and coco. As I said definitely don't add nutes to the FFOF until it asks for it. That is a very good balanced soil and will take any plant well into flower but always dies out at the end which is obviously because the company wants to sell their nute line as well and not just soil. It is awesome soil though.

In veg i never ever needed to add anything except maybe some cal mag at very low doses depending on water testing results of your water source.

Another good thing for FFOF is using their premade tea line I can't remember name of it now but had all the micro and macro nutes you need plus small amounts of NPK. Very similar to a EWC tea pretty much but a little more loaded.

I don't think you have a lockout due to over fert I do think you have a lock out from pH swing. Plant will fix itself just keep ph in check.
 

sato108

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Not sure how these will turn out, couldn't find much background. I'll mention this they don't crop worth a shit, got huge hollow stems that are fairly fragile. I've torn these up a bit.
Be curious what Rusty from CV would have to say.
Here are the pics. This first one has the weird leaves . Not very full . The bus sure look off. It's only week three into flower, but it looks nothing like it's sister. Maybe I'm being too critical?
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The one on the right is the nice pheno of the cookie wreck. She has some twist to her leaves. Very bushy with a wonderful smell. I wish I could I describe this wonderful smell. But I'm high AF. And my dumb @$$ rubbed the stem with the hand I rolled my and smoked my joint with. :bigjoint:
 

sato108

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That first pic looks nothing like a mutation and very much over watering. Not sure as I am not running the op but very much my opinion upon looking. It definitely isn't too much N or the leaves would be way darker green.
Hmmm... She's been droopy like that since I got her back from my friend who ran out of space in his tent. I was letting the soil dry out before feeding her again and wasn't wet I took the pic.
 

whytewidow

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Ok I missed your edit and that was key. You may know this but if you are growing soil-less you have to treat the FFOF completely different. It's soil so definitely needs ph of 6.5-6.8. Soil-less is always lower because its getting ever closer to hydro and coco. As I said definitely don't add nutes to the FFOF until it asks for it. That is a very good balanced soil and will take any plant well into flower but always dies out at the end which is obviously because the company wants to sell their nute line as well and not just soil. It is awesome soil though.

In veg i never ever needed to add anything except maybe some cal mag at very low doses depending on water testing results of your water source.

Another good thing for FFOF is using their premade tea line I can't remember name of it now but had all the micro and macro nutes you need plus small amounts of NPK. Very similar to a EWC tea pretty much but a little more loaded.

I don't think you have a lockout due to over fert I do think you have a lock out from pH swing. Plant will fix itself just keep ph in check.
Yeah dry I went back and edited it. I think after you replied. As long as it doesnt spread to other parts of the plant. I'll jus top it. And go one with it. I do ph in veg. But not flower. Bc my tap set out after 24 hours. And megacrop ig sets n holds at 6.15. I'm in soil. Kindve. I mix by hand. Usually promix bx and perlite. But mostly perlite. Kinda like a hempy bucket. I get a little faster growth rate. But still get that soil grown taste. Somewhat. In most cases when i mix. One 3gal pot. Has about 3-4 cups of soil. Everything else is perlite and or vermiculite.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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Hmmm... She's been droopy like that since I got her back from my friend who ran out of space in his tent. I was letting the soil dry out before feeding her again and wasn't wet I took the pic.
Did this plant dry out to the point her root system was damaged? That looks like a plant that came close to dying from drying out but was watered in time to "save" it. Does the root area smell rotten to you, a sign that roots did die and are rotting?
 

whytewidow

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Does anyone think that plant has tmv man it looks like some pics of tmv?

Edit: the only reason I say that is white stuff is starting on fans.

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whitebb2727

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Does anyone think that plant has tmv man it looks like some pics of tmv?

Edit: the only reason I say that is white stuff is starting on fans.

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Nah. I don't think there's been an actual documented case of tmv in cannabis.

The white spots could be from pest like mites.

It could be normal. I forget what it's called but sometimes those spots are nothing to worry about.

One thing I'm positive of it's not tmv.
 

whytewidow

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Nah. I don't think there's been an actual documented case of tmv in cannabis.

The white spots could be from pest like mites.

It could be normal. I forget what it's called but sometimes those spots are nothing to worry about.

One thing I'm positive of it's not tmv.
There has been several cases of tmv in herb. You can Google it. Although I've nvr seen it. Theres a guy on IG right now that has a variegated og strain that has it. And it spread to his other crop. I jus Googled a few images that plant looks like how it starts. But idk for sure. I've nvr seen it in person. Hope it straightens for him tho.

Edit: I'll see if I can find it again
 

whitebb2727

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There has been several cases of tmv in herb. You can Google it. Although I've nvr seen it. Theres a guy on IG right now that has a variegated og strain that has it. And it spread to his other crop. I jus Googled a few images that plant looks like how it starts. But idk for sure. I've nvr seen it in person. Hope it straightens for him tho.

Edit: I'll see if I can find it again
I haven't seen an actual confirmed and tested case of tmv in cannabis.

I googled confirmed cases of tmv in cannabis. Just comes up with threads of people thinking it's tmv.

If someone has a link of actual confirmed tmv with test to prove it in cannabis I'll believe it.

Im about 99.9% sure your plant doesnt has it.
 
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