Heisengrow
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Yeah his stardawg likes making boys
Greenpoint seeds!!
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naiveCon
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@naiveCon what size tent and pots are you using ? Bummer on the boys
Gorilla 2' x 2.5' with my own homemade vent system.
I settled on the grow pro 10 inch root master pots, after trying numerous others.
Two of the four are definitely showing male, I'll know soon enough about the other two, but I can't really complain because I've had good success in the past of male female ratio.
hillbill
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It seems that highly cross bred polyhybreeds seem to make more males but I have seen it more with Bodhi but not overwhelming. Last spring I went 1/10 with Gorilla Bubble bx2 and that was frustrating! My first try with Dreamcatcher was 3/4 male and a mutant with no growing tip.
Gu~
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Some seeds produce more males.
Some produce more females.
This is not determined by the male, but rather the combination of the two.
At Sackmastaflex’s grow in PR he popped around 100 Seeds per strain and the ratios were all over depending on the variety.
Hickok Haze was one of the varieties that showed a heavy male ratio, but there were plenty that showed a heavy skewed ratio to the female side.
It’s all about the population size. The more seeds you pop the more true 50:50 you will see. 10 Seeds is not a big enough population size to state a stud “likes making boys”
Some produce more females.
This is not determined by the male, but rather the combination of the two.
At Sackmastaflex’s grow in PR he popped around 100 Seeds per strain and the ratios were all over depending on the variety.
Hickok Haze was one of the varieties that showed a heavy male ratio, but there were plenty that showed a heavy skewed ratio to the female side.
It’s all about the population size. The more seeds you pop the more true 50:50 you will see. 10 Seeds is not a big enough population size to state a stud “likes making boys”
Heisengrow
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chemphlegm
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I always use late flower pollen or open pollination.
if I use the late flower pollen my resulting seedlings are not only all fems but they sure seem more
alike than if I used open pollination with a male. nothing to do with making males vs fems but what is the science behind
selfing/ open vs late flower pollination-plant uniformity/stability? excuse my ignorance on breeding, I do it only to make more seeds of a like variety, discover new varieties. Punnets Square...meh, pollen chucking is my fun.
figured this to be as good a place as any to ask....
if I use the late flower pollen my resulting seedlings are not only all fems but they sure seem more
alike than if I used open pollination with a male. nothing to do with making males vs fems but what is the science behind
selfing/ open vs late flower pollination-plant uniformity/stability? excuse my ignorance on breeding, I do it only to make more seeds of a like variety, discover new varieties. Punnets Square...meh, pollen chucking is my fun.
figured this to be as good a place as any to ask....
Heisengrow
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Plants that are female that produce male pollen are 100 percent female.they lack the male chromosome to make both sex offspring.so late flower herms or forced reverse will result in all female offspring.
I personally hate dealing with males and had to make changes to deal with the extra bodies laying around wasting resources.
I would much rather deal with fems.regular seeds adds like an extra month to my grow time till I get them sexed.
Once I get a few good fire mom's I never wanna see another fukin male as long as I live
I personally hate dealing with males and had to make changes to deal with the extra bodies laying around wasting resources.
I would much rather deal with fems.regular seeds adds like an extra month to my grow time till I get them sexed.
Once I get a few good fire mom's I never wanna see another fukin male as long as I live
Heisengrow
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And it's funny when people dog fem's out but a shot load of the ileet cuts being used to breed are females that came from a hermied plant.a lot of good plants were found in bag seed from a dispensery,or someone who found a couple seeds from an indoor female grow
I bet there are more fire as females out there that came from a hermied fem than from breeding a male and female.
GG4 came from a hermied plant.OG kush came from a bag of weed from a female grow so I would also assume.
Any accidental pollination that comes from a room of females is techically a feminized seed
I bet there are more fire as females out there that came from a hermied fem than from breeding a male and female.
GG4 came from a hermied plant.OG kush came from a bag of weed from a female grow so I would also assume.
Any accidental pollination that comes from a room of females is techically a feminized seed
Bakersfield
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Some of the best weed I've grown came from fems.
The Nigerian that Swamp Boys are using for their fem crosses, is epic!
I do believe that the Nigerian they use was originally bred by JJ.
I am planning my first big fem chuck-fest, with all of my favorite ladies in the stable, this coming winter. I hope to build a pollen chamber with a hepa filter, to prevent accidental pollination.
Greenpoint genetics will be well represented.
The Nigerian that Swamp Boys are using for their fem crosses, is epic!
I do believe that the Nigerian they use was originally bred by JJ.
I am planning my first big fem chuck-fest, with all of my favorite ladies in the stable, this coming winter. I hope to build a pollen chamber with a hepa filter, to prevent accidental pollination.
Greenpoint genetics will be well represented.
ahlkemist
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What's the absolute shortest green point strain any one with experience please!?
I'm growing frustrated to say the least.
There is zero true information. Every reach out has been left in either one word response or ignored as if im asking an unspeakable.
I select the best full circle looking plant aesthetically and then shortest. Not always the shortest in the pack but usually.
Again
Bandit breath is towering almost 5 ft. Short?
Doc holiday rite with her.
I've tried both "short" and there is nothing short about it.
Funny I thought it's an additive for a while, Not genetic. Then realizing I forgot that i stacked 3 7inch risers under a lifesaver. She stands even with the rest for a level canopy.
I need compact. Idk what to even do it's making me spin confused, questioning stupid now.
I cull the most stretched as im waiting for sex to show.
Has gu not grown out his own f1s??!?
It seems stardawg it's to stretchie for me and I'm thinking super dumb, seems Stardawg and crosses are NOT for me what so ever.
Guys im struggling really hard. Thinking I have like a dozen and a half packs that I can't use. Id LOVE to but can't run 30 plants for numbers. Like 10/12 good solid mid size, 4 big, like now these 4 look like a god damn car sitting there.
Any positive thoughts or constructive criticism is welcome. imma trade ALL my gps packs for 1 compact... LOL jk but seriously im considering turning my garden off ALL together after this... THAT'S how frazzled I am...
Not complaining, I'm asking and reaching out for help. I sincerely want to see this and stick to it.
I threw out over 5 yrs of work. All my keepers to refill w gps.I'm east coast non legal state and that label don't help get anything.
H e l p
I'm growing frustrated to say the least.
There is zero true information. Every reach out has been left in either one word response or ignored as if im asking an unspeakable.
I select the best full circle looking plant aesthetically and then shortest. Not always the shortest in the pack but usually.
Again
Bandit breath is towering almost 5 ft. Short?
Doc holiday rite with her.
I've tried both "short" and there is nothing short about it.
Funny I thought it's an additive for a while, Not genetic. Then realizing I forgot that i stacked 3 7inch risers under a lifesaver. She stands even with the rest for a level canopy.
I need compact. Idk what to even do it's making me spin confused, questioning stupid now.
I cull the most stretched as im waiting for sex to show.
Has gu not grown out his own f1s??!?
It seems stardawg it's to stretchie for me and I'm thinking super dumb, seems Stardawg and crosses are NOT for me what so ever.
Guys im struggling really hard. Thinking I have like a dozen and a half packs that I can't use. Id LOVE to but can't run 30 plants for numbers. Like 10/12 good solid mid size, 4 big, like now these 4 look like a god damn car sitting there.
Any positive thoughts or constructive criticism is welcome. imma trade ALL my gps packs for 1 compact... LOL jk but seriously im considering turning my garden off ALL together after this... THAT'S how frazzled I am...
Not complaining, I'm asking and reaching out for help. I sincerely want to see this and stick to it.
I threw out over 5 yrs of work. All my keepers to refill w gps.I'm east coast non legal state and that label don't help get anything.
H e l p
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coppershot
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I can't speak to GPS as I haven't yet grown any but maybe you need to adapt your growing style to be more compatabile with your needs. Have you considered scrog or other means to keep them shorter? How is you space set up? While genetics plays a roll your set up may also contribute to your plants stretching out rather than encouraging tight node spacing. Could try flowering sooner....
I am sure you have considered this stuff but I thought thst I would mention it.
eminiplayer
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hillbill
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My plants are never much over a foot tall because I LST, supercrop, bend and twist them. It's a little labor intensive but I have time. All my buds are within inches if each other in height and are all in prime light. You can control the shape ofyour canopy in many ways.
chemphlegm
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excessive stretch is sometimes a response to environmental conditions. The vegging plant will continue to "stretch" but thats really just growing up. She can get to a a massive tree size if lighting and resources are provided before stretching/growing.
In flower I've got dozens of different @ Gu~ strains in different stages. I have some like Chinook that I expect to be taller than the rest maybe, so I flower those much earlier/younger than I would the others. (I dont like the weed but the frikken oil is over the top in flavor and stone, uncanny candied tangerines for sure))This makes their flowering stretch/growth spurt only even out with my desired canopy. Not always guaranteed with new unknown selections but they all will listen to your habits. With these Chem lines I expect to see both indica and sativa expressions in seed packs. Once I get to know her I tell her how tall and wide to grow for my fit.
RH/temps/light quality/quantity/air exchange/c02 is often the culprit when I've seen unusual stretch indoors. I cant rec Raindance enough(as you know). I find one tall unruly and one short fat fast in my seed pack. I killed the unruly one though it would stand net to any with flavor and stone. Copper Chem will be unruly for you I think.
hillbill
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I have a Dynamite Diesel that is blooming with a Black Gold. While the BG is lanky, the Dynamite Diesel is short and bushy in structure. Nice chunkbuds and smelling fuely today. Hibernate is shorter also. Night Rider has leaned a little stretchier for me.
As good as Gu's stuff is I would find a way to make it work.
As good as Gu's stuff is I would find a way to make it work.
Jaybodankly
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@ahlkemist. Seeds aint your problem. Read up on some plant training techniques before you trade away excellent seed. If your space is really limited flip to 12/12 sooner. Maybe autoflowers are your thing. Fast growing, strong plants is not a considered a bad problem. As far as adding info to packs. Almost every breeder adds limited info. Why? Because people consider it a promise of sorts. Some breeders send out testers of strains but for the most part you are getting a new seed crop. Do you think a breeder is going to wait four months to grow out a large number and report back with results before releasing a new seed crop.
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