Greenpoint seeds!!

akhiymjames

akhiymjames

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Olive Drab Green said:
I didn't say that. I said I'm not buying that HSO rips people off, and I am pretty sure this is stupid shit being started by Gu. It's overly dramatic and it's disgusting, slandering the competition through his company's site after he fucked up. It's really unprofessional and makes me not want to do business with him just that much more.
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No bro HSO started this posting everywhere that Gu was selling fake beans and that he swaps them out and all this. HSO said they would slander Gu and snitch on him in every way possible. Gu never slandered anyone it's already stated where the beans came from and everyone knows cus Gu let everyone know before he started selling them. This has been blown way out of proportion and if I knew this was gonna start a shit storm I would've never said anything cus I just wanted to know if anybody grew any of the beans out from other breeders brought from Greenpoint cus I haven't heard of the beans beans fake yet. Nobody said HSO is ripping people off and they did not ask they straight out told people the beans were fake and started shitting on Gu but haven't said a word since Gu posted the screenshot of RAS convo with Sub. Proof shuts lies down and that what Gu has HSO has no proof the beans are fake all they can say is they won't stand by them cus they weren't authorized to sell them say way KiefSweat said Gu isn't authorized but didn't say they were fake or swapped.
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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akhiymjames said:
No bro HSO started this posting everywhere that Gu was selling fake beans and that he swaps them out and all this. HSO said they would slander Gu and snitch on him in every way possible. Gu never slandered anyone it's already stated where the beans came from and everyone knows cus Gu let everyone know before he started selling them. This has been blown way out of proportion and if I knew this was gonna start a shit storm I would've never said anything cus I just wanted to know if anybody grew any of the beans out from other breeders brought from Greenpoint cus I haven't heard of the beans beans fake yet. Nobody said HSO is ripping people off and they did not ask they straight out told people the beans were fake and started shitting on Gu but haven't said a word since Gu posted the screenshot of RAS convo with Sub. Proof shuts lies down and that what Gu has HSO has no proof the beans are fake all they can say is they won't stand by them cus they weren't authorized to sell them say way KiefSweat said Gu isn't authorized but didn't say they were fake or swapped.
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I think it's a bit extreme on HSO's part, but I can't blame HSO for misunderstanding the situation and switching to damage control mode. It'd be like stealing a musician's music. Look at how many people are trying to knock off respectable strains nowadays.
 
akhiymjames

akhiymjames

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Olive Drab Green said:
Pretty sure quite a few people did. At the very least, they shouldn't be talking shit on HSO to ruin business for it. At worst, it was just miscommunication. No one needs to be trying to sabotage each other over it. And like I said, based on what I know of Gu, I suspect he's capable of doing anything that brings him what he wants.
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They only said HSO scammed because they sent out a post saying they would send people free beans if you put in your info well nobody got any beans nobody so that means anyone around the world didn't get them

Also I believe midweeksong gets their beans through one of the major euro distributors so beans prolly already in wooden boxes but just think if they sent hundreds of packs in boxes like that how much would it cost to ship? Plus you couldn't be stealthy at all sending lots of them so I'm sure they send most beans to distributors not in packs. HSO fucked up jumped the gun before doing any research and it's cost them a lot of business from people in here for it. I've grown HSO like many of us have said they have good and they have bad anybody can reverse elites cuts to make s1 and crosses they ain't doing anything special. They won't get my business cus I def don't deal with people telling the world they will snitch just cus they mad somebody selling their product that they bought and it's not like stealing music cus that's stolen he bought the beans from Sub and Sub bought them from HSO now if they were on consignment then yes that would be stealing but Sub bought his stock so he can sell do whatever he wants with them and he sold them to Gu.
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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akhiymjames said:
They only said HSO scammed because they sent out a post saying they would send people free beans if you put in your info well nobody got any beans nobody so that means anyone around the world didn't get them

Also I believe midweeksong gets their beans through one of the major euro distributors so beans prolly already in wooden boxes but just think if they sent hundreds of packs in boxes like that how much would it cost to ship? Plus you couldn't be stealthy at all sending lots of them so I'm sure they send most beans to distributors not in packs. HSO fucked up jumped the gun before doing any research and it's cost them a lot of business from people in here for it. I've grown HSO like many of us have said they have good and they have bad anybody can reverse elites cuts to make s1 and crosses they ain't doing anything special. They won't get my business cus I def don't deal with people telling the world they will snitch just cus they mad somebody selling their product that they bought
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Like I said, if they were unaware that Gu was given the seeds by Sub, all I can say is, it was clearly bad comms. I understand what HSO was doing. They probably should have discussed more rationally. I feel Gu's going a bit overboard. They should both probably call a ceasefire, delete bad publicity, and discuss more thoroughly.
 
Adrosmokin

Adrosmokin

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Lol, this got blown way out proportion. From what I understand:
1. Substrate bought packs from multiple breeders up front for resale.
2. Substrate wasn't able to continue, sold remaining stock to Greenpoint.
3. HSO sees Greenpoint selling their seeds, knowing they've never worked with them, and calls Greenpoint out for faking seeds.
4. Greenpoint explains they've bought out Substrate remaining stock (paid for).
5. HSO shuts up.

...I think..
 
akhiymjames

akhiymjames

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Adrosmokin said:
Lol, this got blown way out proportion. From what I understand:
1. Substrate bought packs from multiple breeders up front for resale.
2. Substrate wasn't able to continue, sold remaining stock to Greenpoint.
3. HSO sees Greenpoint selling their seeds, knowing they've never worked with them, and calls Greenpoint out for faking seeds.
4. Greenpoint explains they've bought out Substrate remaining stock (paid for).
5. HSO shuts up.

...I think..
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Exactly they haven't said a word since on Instagram bro lol it's funny
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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Adrosmokin said:
Lol, this got blown way out proportion. From what I understand:
1. Substrate bought packs from multiple breeders up front for resale.
2. Substrate wasn't able to continue, sold remaining stock to Greenpoint.
3. HSO sees Greenpoint selling their seeds, knowing they've never worked with them, and calls Greenpoint out for faking seeds.
4. Greenpoint explains they've bought out Substrate remaining stock (paid for).
5. HSO shuts up.

...I think..
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Totally valid and fair.
 
kmog33

kmog33

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Olive Drab Green said:
They have a right to. It's their intellectual property.
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No they don't. After their gear is sold to a distributor that distributor can do whatever they want wit your gear legally. You sold it so it's not yours anymore. It would be like me trying to sue one of the artists that bought my productions from me. They aren't mine after I sell them, it's part of the contract.

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Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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kmog33 said:
No they don't. After their gear is sold to a distributor that distributor can do whatever they want wit your gear legally. You sold it so it's not yours anymore. It would be like me trying to sue one of the artists that bought my productions from me. They aren't mine after I sell them, it's part of the contract.

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I don't play that game. If you are selling it, you should have authorization. Like I said, it's like stealing a song from a musician. Unless you grow it for yourself. Or cross it, then it's no longer in its original state. Don't be crooked, and try to play on technicalities. That's one of the biggest problems with the world today, people trying to get one over on each other.
 
DonBrennon

DonBrennon

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Bought 3 packs of 'Mosca' through Greenpoint, C99 bx, Blue Iguana and Old Time Moonshine. All came in 'untampered' original breeders packaging, although a little weathered/old looking. I got all these 'cheap' through the reverse auction and sort of knew that they were 'Old stock' and probably done more airmiles than me(having read between the lines a little bit and finding that the old time moonshine hadn't been bred for 10 years or so). All 10 of the C99's germed(2 confirmed fems/8 uncertains), got 5/10 Blue Iguana (1 fem/4 males) and non of the old time moonshine popped. If I'd payed full price I might have been a little pissed at the germ rate and kicked off all guns blazing, bad mouthing Gu to everybody, but alas I didn't and these are the things you expect when you take a gamble.

I have no doubt of the authenticity of these beans and I know that Greenpoint are the only US seedbank that can get beans to me in a week, with no ordering fuck ups or excuses about it being their kids birthday this week so they been busy(Rocky mountain seed bank) PMSL
 
hockeybry2

hockeybry2

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Olive Drab Green said:
I don't play that game. If you are selling it, you should have authorization. Like I said, it's like stealing a song from a musician. Unless you grow it for yourself. Or cross it, then it's no longer in its original state. Don't be crooked, and try to play on technicalities. That's one of the biggest problems with the world today, people trying to get one over on each other.
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Id say it's more like a radio station playing a song but not paying royalties. The radio station isn't trying to say they wrote and performed the music. Glad to see this epic debate just about wrapped up here tho friend.
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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hockeybry2 said:
Id say it's more like a radio station playing a song but not paying royalties. The radio station isn't trying to say they wrote and performed the music. Glad to see this epic debate just about wrapped up here tho friend.
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I'll agree to disagree. I don't really have any interest in continuing it further. Who knows? Maybe I'll even order from them at some point.
 
blu3bird

blu3bird

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DonBrennon said:
Greenpoint are the only US seedbank that can get beans to me in a week, with no ordering fuck ups or excuses about it being their kids birthday this week so they been busy(Rocky mountain seed bank) PMSL
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Yeah, greenpoint don't play games. I've ordered and received shpping info within hours of placing my order. This is probably my favorite place to order from. Very fast and very professional.
 
Vato_504

Vato_504

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My last comment on this. Ask yourselves what business man is this world would sell you fake beans at such a discounted price then give you more money back to buy more or free? And from my understanding it's only 3 breeders that don't have tamper proof packs. HSO, keif sweat, and scapegoat. The only 3 that's saying the beans are fake so go figure.
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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Vato_504 said:
My last comment on this. Ask yourselves what business man is this world would sell you fake beans at such a discounted price then give you more money back to buy more or free? And from my understanding it's only 3 breeders that don't have tamper proof packs. HSO, keif sweat, and scapegoat. The only 3 that's saying the beans are fake so go figure.
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HSO does have tamper-proof packaging.
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