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Cptn

Cptn

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@Gu~
Please correct the strain description for "East Coast Stardawg" on your website.
Currently it lists the same pedigree as Dynamite Diesel and does not correctly identify the reversed male used.

People buying those seeds today are left to hope that it is the reversed "Corey" Stardawg cut. Probably the most famous Stardawg cut in the world.
Failing to correct the listing might seem to suggest that the reversed pollen donor was not the Corey cut we all assume it is, but something else.
 
Bodyne

Bodyne

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Cptn said:
@Gu~
Please correct the strain description for "East Coast Stardawg" on your website.
Currently it lists the same pedigree as Dynamite Diesel and does not correctly identify the reversed male used.

People buying those seeds today are left to hope that it is the reversed "Corey" Stardawg cut. Probably the most famous Stardawg cut in the world.
Failing to correct the listing might seem to suggest that the reversed pollen donor was not the Corey cut we all assume it is, but something else.
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I want some of what you're smokin, lol. I thought that was how you listed the name, the mom and the pollen donor second, its a reversed female corey cut, aka pollen donor, so I'd say its listed right. Dynamite Diesel is a cut of ECSD crossed with Gu's male stardog and Im not sure its the corey cut. But those are regs, not fems.
 
Dats my bike punk

Dats my bike punk

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Bodyne said:
I want some of what you're smokin, lol. I thought that was how you listed the name, the mom and the pollen donor second, its a reversed female corey cut, aka pollen donor, so I'd say its listed right. Dynamite Diesel is a cut of ECSD crossed with Gu's male stardog and Im not sure its the corey cut. But those are regs, not fems.
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The Corey was the female used for the seeds. The east coast was the pollen donor. That's the story I got as I just asked H.
 
jonesaa

jonesaa

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Anyone out there with access to Bandit Breath seeds, or know where I can snag a pack? I've been after this plant type for a minute...

Here's my "keeper" Bison Breath #1. It's revegging at the moment, very slow, but I have seeds of this nice plant. Crossed #1 female with Bison Breath #5 male that has identical structure and smells. Hope the seeds yield some nice plants in the next generation .


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These pics are from the harvest day, I believe I took these down at 74 days of bloom. This one is an all green phenotype, no purple came through. The male #5 was also all green, stinky, oily and had crystals... I've seen pics of males with trichomes but I never had the experience of having one in the garden. I didn't keep the male but I have pollen from it... quite a bit... in the fridge now with the seeds from the #1.

The buds from this plant have been curing for the last month and a half, I don't have access to pics of the dried buds (will post later) but they twinkle pretty nice, are rock hard dense spear shaped calyxes, and have a lemon/skunky and some fuel... more like used motor oil... and ripe underarm smell... YEAH!!!

Smoke is good. Tastes like lemon drops, very dense, has some hints of pine on the inhale... On the exhale it's pure stale motor oil, plain and simple. smooth smoke, ash is gray as I like to flush for a long time... This one took a while to get that faded look. As a consequence there was a tonne of milky trichomes and a bunch of amber. Effects, a great mixture of Chem and OG. But damn, it's a knockout, makes you super hungry and then out for the night! my kinda narcotic smoke!!! purely for night time, or siesta!!!

I have 3 full and half an opened packs of these to go through and I found my fave after getting one female out of five in half a pack... going through these will be fun!

Planning next round of GPS seeds to be popped and plants to bloom:

Hibernate
Tombstone
More Ghost Town... All males last round looking for a female! (1 full pack left) - didn't have much luck from the first pack... out of 11 popped 5 germed, then died. The remaining were all males (collected some pollen from nice ghost looking plants)
Blizzard Bush - these are fun to grow, very forgiving and damn gotta put shades on when looking at these after 3-4 weeks of bloom. and it gets better as they mature.
MACDawg (thick) regvegging... been growing this since Jan. (Damn) I know... but I love this little plant. When I'm home again I will post up some photos of this little bush...
Garlix
The Deputy

Also going to pop some Heisen/GPS fem seed too. Very interested to see how the Purple Cake, East Coast 91 and GMO Cakes turn out...
 
Cptn

Cptn

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Bodyne said:
I want some of what you're smokin, lol. I thought that was how you listed the name, the mom and the pollen donor second, its a reversed female corey cut, aka pollen donor, so I'd say its listed right. Dynamite Diesel is a cut of ECSD crossed with Gu's male stardog and Im not sure its the corey cut. But those are regs, not fems.
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LOL ;-)
He fixed the website ya'll.
Before today the listing for east coast stardawg said that it used Gu's Stardawg male.
 
Cptn

Cptn

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Dats my bike punk said:
The Corey was the female used for the seeds. The east coast was the pollen donor. That's the story I got as I just asked H.
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Yeah, those 2 should really get the story straight.

Up until today, the website said it was:
ECSD x (Gu's stardawg male)

Now it says:
ECSD x reversed Corey cut

But Heisen (supposedly) says that it's:
Corey x reversed ECSD

???
 
K

ky farmer

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Cptn said:
Yeah, those 2 should really get the story straight.

Up until today, the website said it was:
ECSD x (Gu's stardawg male)

Now it says:
ECSD x reversed Corey cut

But Heisen (supposedly) says that it's:
Corey x reversed ECSD

???
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Man there Both telling the truth.lol...you know they would not lie just ask around.Wishing every one the best and hope your alls grows turn out great.
 
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40AmpstoFreedom

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Just sharing mine and other peoples experience. The order does not effect outcome of progeny. Only seed size and look. Literally can't tell the difference between any that I have done like that and many I have spoken to all seem to agree. Chimera, nspecta, samskunkman, tom hill, yada, yada. I would never be concerned based on personal experience and talks with many which fem was reversed into the other. I haven't read or seen any scientific journals on it yet, but there are just too many people I respect that tell me my experience is the norm.
 
Cptn

Cptn

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40AmpstoFreedom said:
Just sharing mine and other peoples experience. The order does not effect outcome of progeny. Only seed size and look. Literally can't tell the difference between any that I have done like that and many I have spoken to all seem to agree. Chimera, nspecta, samskunkman, tom hill, yada, yada. I would never be concerned based on personal experience and talks with many which fem was reversed into the other. I haven't read or seen any scientific journals on it yet, but there are just too many people I respect that tell me my experience is the norm.
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Thanks 40.
I'm not concerned that which plant of 2 elite cuts was reversed might effect the quality of the offspring.
Each plant will contribute the same DNA regardless of which role it played in the cross.
I just want accurate pedigree information when I spend money for seeds, and this is uncharacteristically sloppy documentation for Greenpoint.
Many people feel that way about genetics.
The fact that the industry is filled with outright liars and frauds makes transparency and attention to detail a valuable difference for a company like @Gu~ 's.
I am simply trying to help them fix/improve their listing.
 
daveybc

daveybc

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Great report and nice buds. I have 2 packs of Bison Breath I will be running at once. Any other input on pheno's is appreciated. I am looking for a male as well as hitting my pink kush cut.

@jonesaa At what size did you flower them? How many nodes? Looks like they were flowered early.

jonesaa said:
Anyone out there with access to Bandit Breath seeds, or know where I can snag a pack? I've been after this plant type for a minute...

Here's my "keeper" Bison Breath #1. It's revegging at the moment, very slow, but I have seeds of this nice plant. Crossed #1 female with Bison Breath #5 male that has identical structure and smells. Hope the seeds yield some nice plants in the next generation .


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These pics are from the harvest day, I believe I took these down at 74 days of bloom. This one is an all green phenotype, no purple came through. The male #5 was also all green, stinky, oily and had crystals... I've seen pics of males with trichomes but I never had the experience of having one in the garden. I didn't keep the male but I have pollen from it... quite a bit... in the fridge now with the seeds from the #1.

The buds from this plant have been curing for the last month and a half, I don't have access to pics of the dried buds (will post later) but they twinkle pretty nice, are rock hard dense spear shaped calyxes, and have a lemon/skunky and some fuel... more like used motor oil... and ripe underarm smell... YEAH!!!

Smoke is good. Tastes like lemon drops, very dense, has some hints of pine on the inhale... On the exhale it's pure stale motor oil, plain and simple. smooth smoke, ash is gray as I like to flush for a long time... This one took a while to get that faded look. As a consequence there was a tonne of milky trichomes and a bunch of amber. Effects, a great mixture of Chem and OG. But damn, it's a knockout, makes you super hungry and then out for the night! my kinda narcotic smoke!!! purely for night time, or siesta!!!

I have 3 full and half an opened packs of these to go through and I found my fave after getting one female out of five in half a pack... going through these will be fun!

Planning next round of GPS seeds to be popped and plants to bloom:

Hibernate
Tombstone
More Ghost Town... All males last round looking for a female! (1 full pack left) - didn't have much luck from the first pack... out of 11 popped 5 germed, then died. The remaining were all males (collected some pollen from nice ghost looking plants)
Blizzard Bush - these are fun to grow, very forgiving and damn gotta put shades on when looking at these after 3-4 weeks of bloom. and it gets better as they mature.
MACDawg (thick) regvegging... been growing this since Jan. (Damn) I know... but I love this little plant. When I'm home again I will post up some photos of this little bush...
Garlix
The Deputy

Also going to pop some Heisen/GPS fem seed too. Very interested to see how the Purple Cake, East Coast 91 and GMO Cakes turn out...
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Cptn

Cptn

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40AmpstoFreedom said:
Yeah totally get that, just wanted to share info that may or may not be of interest to peeps. This was a serious question for me for many years I wondered about.
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Right on brother.
It's amazing how much myth and mysticism has been explained in our community the last few years.
Hard to imagine what things will be like 5 years from now.
Just gotta keep the whole game from being stolen by Chads and lab coats ;-)
 
jonesaa

jonesaa

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daveybc said:
Great report and nice buds. I have 2 packs of Bison Breath I will be running at once. Any other input on pheno's is appreciated. I am looking for a male as well as hitting my pink kush cut.

@jonesaa At what size did you flower them? How many nodes? Looks like they were flowered early.
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@daveybc Thanks dude! these bison breaths are fun to grow. Out of the five seeds I sprouted this one was the shortest and only female. I kept them small on purpose (kept in solo cups for about a month) since my current space is very limited. I started flower when this plant was exactly 1ft. Final height was just under 2ft... Not sure how many nodes were there when I started bloom, but I removed some cuts at the bottom earlier on to give away and to clean up the plant a little.

The other Bison Breath males looked and smelled identical to each other (#'s 2,3 and 4). Male flowers turned reddish purple, very little crystals on the flowers and "sugar leaves". They had a sweet fruity/body odor stench to them. All the males were pushing close to 3.5 to 4 feet and stretch much more than the female.
 
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