wiseguy316 are you using a groclone? I used to use cloning gel with rapid rooter plugs, but that has always seemed to slow the process dramatically when using a groclone or an ez-clone. I am not new to this (20 years and counting), it is just that I have never encountered the slime, let alone twice back to back until I started using the groclone units. This slime appeared two days after being in the groclone, it looks just like cloning gel but it ain't cloning gel. Just like last time the grand daddies are already showing signs of root development and the grape punch is developing an abundance of slime, the candy purples were just cut yesterday so there is no slime (yet!). Worst case scenario I break out the 2 ez-clones and give up the space I was trying to save (3 groclones @ 159 points take up less space than 2 60 point ez-clones) but get the clones I need. The room temp is a constant 75 and the groclone water temp is a constant 75 as well. I used spring water with a starting temp of 65 as the manufacturer recommended which is the only variable. I always used RO tap water with the ez-clones.