Groing in soil at the minute but thinking of changeing ideas help and info please

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shenko

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Hey there. Right im fairly new to this game now but im already considering in changeing my grow medium. I use soil at the minute.

Is it easy to set up an aerophonic system??? I have been looking at these and think it would be better to grow in as you dont have to go out and buy soil ect.

Also are yeilds bigger???

And ast the roots get oxygen a lot better will that make them grow faster too???

Any advice on this please as im looking into the matter as a future grow. Places to buy items from or guides to a diy makeing site.
 
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Plebscrubber

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areoponics is the best setup for hydro... no other system will grow plants as quickly

soil is filthy and dirty (like your mom)

you will yeild a lot more with aero, buy some nozzels and hose and a big plastic box with a lid from home depot and make your own aero setup
 
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shenko

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Plebscrubber said:
areoponics is the best setup for hydro... no other system will grow plants as quickly

soil is filthy and dirty (like your mom)

you will yeild a lot more with aero, buy some nozzels and hose and a big plastic box with a lid from home depot and make your own aero setup
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Yea i do plan on makeing my own. Do you know any good diy tutorials? Looking around for good ideas to use?
 
Serapis

Serapis

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They are all over the internet. And if you would rather someone make a DIY for you, eBay has a few entrepreneurs that make and sell them, and they aren't high priced. If you want to go out and shop for the stuff and want to diy, try a diy search on google using the following keywords w/o the quotes... "diy guide tutorial tote rubbermaid aeroponic" Feel free to copy and paste the terms, just drop the quotes. I normally always point to a roll it up resource, however the search is turning up next to nothing on RIU regarding DIY aeroponics.

shenko said:
Yea i do plan on makeing my own. Do you know any good diy tutorials? Looking around for good ideas to use?
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shenko

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Serapis said:
They are all over the internet. And if you would rather someone make a DIY for you, eBay has a few entrepreneurs that make and sell them, and they aren't high priced. If you want to go out and shop for the stuff and want to diy, try a diy search on google using the following keywords w/o the quotes... "diy guide tutorial tote rubbermaid aeroponic" Feel free to copy and paste the terms, just drop the quotes. I normally always point to a roll it up resource, however the search is turning up next to nothing on RIU regarding DIY aeroponics.
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Thanks man. Im just in the middle of looking now. Might get it all ready for my next grow or something
 
i420

i420

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shenko said:
Is it easy to set up an aerophonic system???
Also are yeilds bigger???
And ast the roots get oxygen a lot better will that make them grow faster too???
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I started off in soil and moved to hydro all in 1 year. There are vast differences.

Soil is a good medium to learn in and is a great medium to grow in. Soil is more
forgiving than hydro. Soil is slower than soil. The taste is clearly better. There
will be those that add sweeteners and then tell you the taste is just as good
but you are just adding more "stuff" to the equation.

Soil is more susceptible to bugs were as hydro is more susceptible to fungi and
mold. Soil is more stable but yields are less than in Hydro as a general rule for
similar or alike environments.

"Ponics" has a few variations and I'm not sure anyone can claim one to be any
better than any other. Each grower and each garden is different. You should
find the system that best suites your style or requirements and limitations of
growing.

I went from soil to "BB" bubble buckets. Then added some drip rings driven by
the venturi method in waterfarm drip rings. A combination of both and now am
adding a recirculating reservoir to the set up. Aeroponics are sure to be in my
future but my style dictate I grow into it. My learning curve has not yet turn
that direction.

If you are looking for that golden bullet you wont find it. Let me put it this way.
A great grower can take the worst scenarios and out grow a bad grower with
the best scenario. You will need to educate your self in not just marijuana. Air
handling, heat management, lite construction, lite electrical, water control etc.
So no one type of "set up" will ever overcome any short comings in the other
areas of knowledge. I would suggest learning as much in as many aspects as
you can. I think "that" is what tells you what to grow in.

Peace and good luck


Hydro:
Yes ... hydro yields are bigger
Yes ... hydro cycles are faster
Yea ... hydro is less detectable
Yes ... hydro equal fewer bugs

Yes ... I converted to hydro :leaf:
 
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shenko

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Serapis said:
They are all over the internet. And if you would rather someone make a DIY for you, eBay has a few entrepreneurs that make and sell them, and they aren't high priced. If you want to go out and shop for the stuff and want to diy, try a diy search on google using the following keywords w/o the quotes... "diy guide tutorial tote rubbermaid aeroponic" Feel free to copy and paste the terms, just drop the quotes. I normally always point to a roll it up resource, however the search is turning up next to nothing on RIU regarding DIY aeroponics.
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another thing when you do aeroponic. how do you determin how much neuts you add? is there something to read the water like a ph tester?
 
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shenko

Well-Known Member
i420 said:
I started off in soil and moved to hydro all in 1 year. There are vast differences.

Soil is a good medium to learn in and is a great medium to grow in. Soil is more
forgiving than hydro. Soil is slower than soil. The taste is clearly better. There
will be those that add sweeteners and then tell you the taste is just as good
but you are just adding more "stuff" to the equation.

Soil is more susceptible to bugs were as hydro is more susceptible to fungi and
mold. Soil is more stable but yields are less than in Hydro as a general rule for
similar or alike environments.

"Ponics" has a few variations and I'm not sure anyone can claim one to be any
better than any other. Each grower and each garden is different. You should
find the system that best suites your style or requirements and limitations of
growing.

I went from soil to "BB" bubble buckets. Then added some drip rings driven by
the venturi method in waterfarm drip rings. A combination of both and now am
adding a recirculating reservoir to the set up. Aeroponics are sure to be in my
future but my style dictate I grow into it. My learning curve has not yet turn
that direction.

If you are looking for that golden bullet you wont find it. Let me put it this way.
A great grower can take the worst scenarios and out grow a bad grower with
the best scenario. You will need to educate your self in not just marijuana. Air
handling, heat management, lite construction, lite electrical, water control etc.
So no one type of "set up" will ever overcome any short comings in the other
areas of knowledge. I would suggest learning as much in as many aspects as
you can. I think "that" is what tells you what to grow in.

Peace and good luck


Hydro:
Yes ... hydro yields are bigger
Yes ... hydro cycles are faster
Yea ... hydro is less detectable
Yes ... hydro equal fewer bugs

Yes ... I converted to hydro :leaf:
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well i must say thank you for all of that info man!

was well woth the read. im just reading up things now about it and to see what way to go like hydro areo ect. if you do aero do you have to keep the roots out of the bottom of the water?

how do you know how much neuts to add?

is it costly to make? i have been looking around at ideas ect. at the moment i have a veg room with flouros and a flowering room with 2 600w lights in. i think i will have to make 2 one for the veg and one for the flowering
 
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Plebscrubber

Active Member
hydro yeilds more than soil...

you can give the plants exactly what they need, and make it easy for them to get it

much less problems from bugs and disease

only hippys and ghetto trash grow in the filthy dirt
 
i420

i420

Member
shenko said:
well i must say thank you for all of that info man!

was well woth the read. im just reading up things now about it and to see what way to go like hydro areo ect.

if you do aero do you have to keep the roots out of the bottom of the water?
how do you know how much neuts to add?
is it costly to make?

i have been looking around at ideas ect. at the moment i have a veg room with flouros and a flowering room with
2 600w lights in. i think i will have to make 2 one for the veg and one for the flowering
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A) There are variations or styles of aero. The key factor is air. If your roots sit in water they will die.
If that same water has plenty of oxygen (air) in it the roots will thrive. Think of cool-aid -VS_ soda.
One is flat and one is fizzy. Your roots want fizzy with air. "Aero" as you call it aerates the water
during the spray process. The roots that are in the open space get air and nutes and as the water
fall back into your res it aerates the water. So you have some roots out of the water and some in water.
But you will have plenty of air in the water so those roots will do fine. Use air stones in the reservoir
and recirculate.

A) You use a PH meter and PPM (TDS) meter and test your water. You will want lower PPM for young plants,
cuttings and seedlings. You will gradually increase the PPM as the plants grow. You will want to maintain
a steady PH number depending on your medium (soil, hydro). The meters range from $20 up. I use "Hanna"

A) Cost, as in all aspects of life, is relative. You can buy ready built systems or DIY it to save $. The size and
design of systems contributes to cost. Yes some set ups are awesome yet some are a 18 gal tote with a few
bucks in PVC pipe, a pump and a few spray heads.

If you can be more specific ... so can I. There is no one "aero" system so it really depends on your understanding and willingness. What do you want to do? What is available? What is your grow space? What is your budget? These are determining factors.

As a rule I suggest to start simple and grow into a niche or for knowledge. But you need to get a grasp on things before you invest big. Bubble buckets are a good simple way to go. Same with bubble totes but as a beginner you want to segregate your plants so if you have a problem or make a mistake you wont loose all your girls.
 
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shenko

Well-Known Member
i420 said:
A) There are variations or styles of aero. The key factor is air. If your roots sit in water they will die.
If that same water has plenty of oxygen (air) in it the roots will thrive. Think of cool-aid -VS_ soda.
One is flat and one is fizzy. Your roots want fizzy with air. "Aero" as you call it aerates the water
during the spray process. The roots that are in the open space get air and nutes and as the water
fall back into your res it aerates the water. So you have some roots out of the water and some in water.
But you will have plenty of air in the water so those roots will do fine. Use air stones in the reservoir
and recirculate.

A) You use a PH meter and PPM (TDS) meter and test your water. You will want lower PPM for young plants,
cuttings and seedlings. You will gradually increase the PPM as the plants grow. You will want to maintain
a steady PH number depending on your medium (soil, hydro). The meters range from $20 up. I use "Hanna"

A) Cost, as in all aspects of life, is relative. You can buy ready built systems or DIY it to save $. The size and
design of systems contributes to cost. Yes some set ups are awesome yet some are a 18 gal tote with a few
bucks in PVC pipe, a pump and a few spray heads.

If you can be more specific ... so can I. There is no one "aero" system so it really depends on your understanding and willingness. What do you want to do? What is available? What is your grow space? What is your budget? These are determining factors.

As a rule I suggest to start simple and grow into a niche or for knowledge. But you need to get a grasp on things before you invest big. Bubble buckets are a good simple way to go. Same with bubble totes but as a beginner you want to segregate your plants so if you have a problem or make a mistake you wont loose all your girls.
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Yea thanks for that man. I think what i am going to do is make something that holds a few plants. Still do a soil grow and see the difference in them both. Got some white widow seeds for my next grow. So do so many in soil and so many with what i decide
To try.
 
i420

i420

Member
shenko said:
Yea thanks for that man. I think what i am going to do is make something that holds a few plants. Still do a soil grow and see the difference in them both. Got some white widow seeds for my next grow. So do so many in soil and so many with what i decide
To try.
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Right on .... a good "side-by-side" is always cool. :leaf: You should
find hydro produces a larger plant. It will be interesting to hear your
smoke report.


Serapis said:
Hobbes' grow is anything BUT average....
Have him do what he is doing in hydro ;)
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Yea ... if I was hitting 3Gs a watt I would call it a success story and
be pretty happy. :clap:
 
robert 14617

robert 14617

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the start up cost and learning curve has kept me in soil , the meters nutes and hardware are more than i want to spend at one time
 
i420

i420

Member
robert 14617 said:
the start up cost and learning curve has kept me in soil , the meters nutes and hardware are more than i want to spend at one time
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Believe it or not my forst hydro set up was from a leaking faucet. It kept dripping and instead of replacing it I placed a coffee can (plastic) under the drip. I added 1/4" black tubing to the bottom of the coffee can and ran the tubing to a bucket. To save the water. Then I realized I could use the drip to water a plant. So I got a 6" net cup and cut it into a lid and wha la .... I even use gravel instead of hydroton. I used MG food that cost about $3 at walmart. I just added a lil bit of MG to the coffee can every couple of days.

Also .... if you can barrow a meter you can measure out a 1 gal solution and just use the measurments over and over. Each gallon will be the same so you only need to make the formula once. I did this with my wife when I use to travel a lot.....

LOL ..... memories.


StinkBud .... you rock!
 
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