Grow-A-Long with Dick

Richard Drysift said:

Have concerns about this one, it’s looking much better after aact but still a bit off color. Been feeding Neptune’s harvest but now I’m thinking it’s due to too much N as opposed to not enough.
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I want to say Mg.

Budzbuddha said:

Ever think about steeping male plants for a tea , like they do using nettle ? Banana peels for K too.

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I’m lazy; it’s just so easy to throw them into the worm bin. I’ve also used raw plants in the mix globally; they just disappear it’s amazing. I keep trying to post about my gradual step down flower flip but I’ve yet to see someone actually do it. Really does push bigger flowers and works great in conjunction with a monster cropping which can easily double the yield if you have the patience. Saw this tek once in a back issue of Skunk and now I always do it.

Richard Drysift said:

I’m lazy; it’s just so easy to throw them into the worm bin. I’ve also used raw plants in the mix globally; they just disappear it’s amazing. I keep trying to post about my gradual step down flower flip but I’ve yet to see someone actually do it. Really does push bigger flowers and works great in conjunction with a monster cropping which can easily double the yield if you have the patience. Saw this tek once in a back issue of Skunk and now I always do it.

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Good share .... I have some vegging plants that I might try that , definitely gonna give you a proper mention as it plays out.
If plants burst into flames ... well I’ll cry.

PadawanWarrior said:

I want to say Mg.

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Totally possible but hard to believe. I’ve added a few different minerals and composted eggshell. I’ve been giving them natural spring water and snow/rain runoff so it’s not like I haven’t been providing macros. I do want to give a dose of calmag just to see if it helps though; may have to order some if nothing else works.

Richard Drysift said:

Totally possible but hard to believe. I’ve added a few different minerals and composted eggshell. I’ve been giving them natural spring water and snow/rain runoff so it’s not like I haven’t been providing macros. I do want to give a dose of calmag just to see if it helps though; may have to order some if nothing else works.

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I was thinking you shouldn't really be low on Mg since you amend with Dolomite. But that's kinda what it looks like. Too much Ca might be locking out Mg too, I don't know. I'm no master by any means. Just guessing based on the looks of the leaves.

If you have some Epsom salt, I'd want to do a foliar spray with it and see if they look better in a day or two.

But I think you have more experience than me.

And that water you're using now probably doesn't have much Mg.

They look to have been a little burned, but not too much N...

Richard Drysift said:

Have concerns about this one, it’s looking much better after aact but still a bit off color. Been feeding Neptune’s harvest but now I’m thinking it’s due to too much N as opposed to not enough.
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What stands out to me is the interveinal chlorosis all over the plant.

Mg does this but only middle leaves until they develop necrotic spots.

Also Zn def causes it on newer growth.

When more than one def is present I suspect pH. If pH is ok then I look to an element that messes with whatever def I’m seeing. Too much P messes with those.. could it be that??

Thinking it’s a ph issue but I am gonna try giving a dose of soluble cal/mag and keep w/ aac teas regimen every other week. Thanks for the insight.

I recently checked the ph of the snow around my place, and it was like 8.4, which I thought was nuts. I live pretty well Medea from each coast and know that rainwater generally gets less acidic as you head inland, but 8.4 seemed a bit much. Have you checked yours?

lakesidegrower said:

I recently checked the ph of the snow around my place, and it was like 8.4, which I thought was nuts. I live pretty well Medea from each coast and know that rainwater generally gets less acidic as you head inland, but 8.4 seemed a bit much. Have you checked yours?

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Whoa, rainwater is supposed to be neutral. Mine is about 6 here in the middle of the country. Perhaps the collection container was tainted? Good luck..

Just transplanted my two little ones into the 19 gallon tote I had my soil resting in from my last run. I ground up some malted barley and sprinkled it on top and watered it all in with some coconut powder. The soil has been recycled and mixed with fresh batches many times now, so hoping for another successful run with it.

Decided to retire the 3 gallon fabric pots this time so hopefully things go well. The 3 gallon pots worked good enough for me, but I expect these to do a lot better with a fair bit more soil to grow in. Going to go pick up something to mulch with tomorrow. Have a local shop that carries build a soil's barley straw and rice hulls or was thinking of just grabbing some pine bark nuggets from home depot for a fair bit cheaper and 2 cu ft instead of 1 cu ft. Whichever route I go, I plan on throwing the extras in a different tote with some homemade biochar/compost/amendments (probably alfalfa, kelp and some rock dusts since I have tons of all 3 to use up) to hopefully help get the char all sorts of charged up. Any suggestions on which way to go? Normally I use rice hulls or pumice, but used up all my remaining stock so figured I'd try something a little different.

Here's to hoping for at least one female though out of the two. The plant in the first picture is doing some funky things, only threw out one leaf on its first true set and some growth coming out of the middle of one leaf.

Sorry the long rambling post but wish you all success with the grows and thank you for another good thread drysift.

I know your not supposed to "pH an organic grow", but pH is always my issue when organic growing. For some reason the soil pH gets super low.

lakesidegrower said:

I recently checked the ph of the snow around my place, and it was like 8.4, which I thought was nuts. I live pretty well Medea from each coast and know that rainwater generally gets less acidic as you head inland, but 8.4 seemed a bit much. Have you checked yours?

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Nope ...never checked the ph nor do I even have a way to check ph. It’s just one out of ten plants. Most of the year I use reclaimed dehumidifier water that is stark but since winter set in it collects nothing. Snow and rain were very recently added as it stayed fairly dry up until not too long ago.
I’m ruling out a macro def. In addition to everything else I’ve done to provide macros I also have access to a natural spring which tested high in mineral content. Been watering with it through the winter. They use bubble filtration to remove the radon from the deep rocks it flows from so it’s doubtful there’s a macro issue here; then again anything is possible.
More than likely I failed to mix up everything good enough in the tote I use to amend & recycle the soil in. There’s spots that were hotter than others; maybe this pot didn’t get the love that the others did.

@Richard Drysift Was skimming through this thread. Have you ever said what is in your organic soil? I don't see it. I'm curious because my mix always turns out acidic and I think I'm missing dolomite or garden lime. Aiming for garden lime because of the high ratio of Magnesium to Calcium in the Dolomite.

This is 50/50 FFOF and HF for the base.
Then per instructions on the bag per gallon I mix in:
EWC
4-4-4 All Purpose
DTE Flower Girl (I think its 3-9-4)
Fish bone meal
Kelp meal

This will "cook" in a tote for months before use. Again I think im missing the lime, but curious to know your recipe. Thanks

Don’t really have my own recipe. I started out with bags of FFOF and just keep on amending & recycling it over and over. There is a post in here somewhere where I list what I added but I never built my own mix. Not even consistent doing that; I switch it up all the time based on what I got on hand. Every so often I get more base soil and add it to my recycled mix but it will sustain plants for pretty long while even if I don’t fully amend it & just toss in fresh ewc. Here’s a link to my old thread which might have some info helpful to you if ya wanna check it out:

ebcrew said:

@Richard Drysift Was skimming through this thread. Have you ever said what is in your organic soil? I don't see it. I'm curious because my mix always turns out acidic and I think I'm missing dolomite or garden lime. Aiming for garden lime because of the high ratio of Magnesium to Calcium in the Dolomite.

This is 50/50 FFOF and HF for the base.
Then per instructions on the bag per gallon I mix in:
EWC
4-4-4 All Purpose
DTE Flower Girl (I think its 3-9-4)
Fish bone meal
Kelp meal

This will "cook" in a tote for months before use. Again I think im missing the lime, but curious to know your recipe. Thanks

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For bagged soil you don’t have to amend it beforehand; it should work as is for the first run. You can always lime it after harvest. Can usually get away with just adding fresh worm castings but if you already put extra fertilizer then wait a few weeks at least to use it.
30 days is usually all you need to cook for even if you amend the soil heavily. D-lime needs a little time to work but if you go with something like crushed oyster flour for now you can just toss it into the containers directly when you build them to help buffer ph from the extra fertilizers. Consider also aquiring some garden gypsum; a great source of macros and the fungi love it.

anyone else just come for the long dick pics?

Edit: (overplayed, sorry)

ColoradoHighGrower said:

anyone else just come for the long dick pics?

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I predict ample shots of donkey dick colas coming all over your face before long; stay tuned Colorado

Richard Drysift said:

I predict ample shots of donkey dick colas coming all over your face before long; stay tuned Colorado

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What? You're in CO too? Or you're just talking to @ColoradoHighGrower, lol. I'm kinda slow, lol.

Anyways I think you might be on to something with the mix not being mixed up enough. That would make sense.

Little update on me zour apple. Doing great she’s been in the 5g for 17 days now. Top dress last week with some ewc and 444 Did some super cropping today. She’ll land in a SIP before too long.