Grow Journal #5-12/12 from seed to finish, 400W Grow Cabinet, Hydro & Soil

Quick update of whats going on now..





If U guys remember, I had a few bubblicious clones and a few other clones I had just began. I also was trying to get a few seeds of mine to germinate as well.

well sadly I only have one bubblicious clones remaining, but I have other clones to make up for it..


(^^Bubblicious 2 weeks ago)


(^^Bubblicious now)




as far as the seedlings go I got 6 of them to sprout (3 indoor, 3 outdoor) and so far I believe that 2 of them are males...

I just wanted to show everyone the similarities...

Bubblicious²



Indica Dom (Mother)



Bubblicious (father)

Frosty Bud porn....

Thanks all for input with that information I will not worry so much about the CO2.


Spitt4Cash

That looks awsome man I am really impressed and excited to get one going just seeing how much you have learned through your couple journals. I am currently working on construction before I try my first one want to make sure everything is right. Workings on ventilation right now and gonna be doing a stealth grow LST in a 30 gal rubbermaid tub. Any recommendations? Also going to do the veg with CFL's, but thinking of getting like a 150watt HPS from lowes but don't know if it is a good idea in the tub. I might try just use two 30 gallon tubs on top of one another and not go with LST. Just looking for input and everyone here seems very helpful. Thanks alot again

love the bud porn.

lookin realy good bro keep it up

bettertoday55 said:

Thanks all for input with that information I will not worry so much about the CO2.


Spitt4Cash

That looks awsome man I am really impressed and excited to get one going just seeing how much you have learned through your couple journals. I am currently working on construction before I try my first one want to make sure everything is right. Workings on ventilation right now and gonna be doing a stealth grow LST in a 30 gal rubbermaid tub. Any recommendations? Also going to do the veg with CFL's, but thinking of getting like a 150watt HPS from lowes but don't know if it is a good idea in the tub. I might try just use two 30 gallon tubs on top of one another and not go with LST. Just looking for input and everyone here seems very helpful. Thanks alot again

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honestly, I found out that the HPS in any plastic probably isnt a good idea. Since the beginning I slowly noticed the cabinet starting to warp bcuz of the heat.

no matter if U go with CFL's or an HID, in order to do it right you need to have an air cooled reflector.

I actually store all of my clothes in 30Gal rubbermaid tubs, they look like they'll hold 2-3 mature females and a few clones or seedlings as well. they could yeild as much as an Oz each. and thats DEFINITELY possible to do under maybe 6-8 CFL's and a few fans setup for ventilation. maybe a few 8" pots.

but a setup like that would hardly be stealth unless it was hidden in a closet. and if that was the case then U might as well do a closet grow.

thank U all for the compliments.

I'll be starting a new journal when these clones finish up. it'll be a breeding project (Sweet Purple x Bubblicious²) so stay tuned.

What's up man, glad to see you back with another grow. I'm ready to see this thing get up off the grown man!

Didn't you do some breeding last grow? Are you growing any of that?

Spittin...

+ rep to you! thanks a lot you have answered a lot of my questions, and you right the rubbermaid isn't going to be very stealth bad choice of words on my part. i am still working on the fine details before i get started but the main problem i am running into is the fans. i can't seem to find them in stores around town. i have looked online but saving that as a last resort would rather see if i can find them in town first. if you have any recommendations for fans or the setup it would be greatly appreciated. itching to see the new grow!

ok somebody has to say something. first off weigh your stuff without the big logs and see what you have.second you feed your plants too much nitro ,all your plants look burnt from seedling stage and up.lay off the nutes for atleast 2 weeks prob longer for 12/12 FS. im not trying to be harsh just honest.also with a 400w even 12/12 from seed you should be getting more bud than that.

also 30 gallon rubbermaid tubs are to small . plants will be too tall even 12/12 from start,your gonna have to have room for the light and headroom for plants.if you try it good luck to you .im just trying to help you even though you didnt ask for it because i would like to see you yield as much as possible and no one else on here seems to want to help you.praise is good dont get me wrong, but when i see all this potential with your growing i just wanna help.im not a grow guru but ive got 100+ indoor grows under my belt just like to share knowledge.BTW the one reason why i say to much Nitrogen is because when your plant has to much its starts getting too green, the leaves start clawing,and the leaves get this waxy kinda glossy looking coat over the them. thats a red flag for over nuting with nitro.peace BIG YIELDS

Spittn4cash said:

Quick update of whats going on now..

If U guys remember, I had a few bubblicious clones and a few other clones I had just began. I also was trying to get a few seeds of mine to germinate as well.

well sadly I only have one bubblicious clones remaining, but I have other clones to make up for it..

(^^Bubblicious 2 weeks ago)

(^^Bubblicious now)

as far as the seedlings go I got 6 of them to sprout (3 indoor, 3 outdoor) and so far I believe that 2 of them are males...

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duncan idaho said:

ok somebody has to say something. first off weigh your stuff without the big logs and see what you have.second you feed your plants too much nitro ,all your plants look burnt from seedling stage and up.lay off the nutes for atleast 2 weeks prob longer for 12/12 FS. im not trying to be harsh just honest.also with a 400w even 12/12 from seed you should be getting more bud than that.

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my good man, I appreciate all of the info but I assure U Ive corrected everything U mentioned AND THEN some..

as U can see from the pix above the current situation is under control, those clones werent even fed any nutes until they were 6 weeks old, and the seedlings arent fed until 3 weeks in.. (regardless if its 12/12 from seed or not)

Ive found a good new method for my growing needs and I think im gonna give it a try using all of the recommended nutes, soil, and equipment. but i appreciate ur 2 cents tho.

im not sure what U mean by "big logs" but if ur referring to my cola's then thank you

my dry weight is what it is, no sense in worrying about it now.



oh and from the info u gave me i would like to be first to call bullshit to U saying uve done 100+ grows.

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also 30 gallon rubbermaid tubs are to small . plants will be too tall even 12/12 from start,your gonna have to have room for the light and headroom for plants.if you try it good luck to you .im just trying to help you even though you didnt ask for it because i would like to see you yield as much as possible and no one else on here seems to want to help you.praise is good dont get me wrong, but when i see all this potential with your growing i just wanna help.im not a grow guru but ive got 100+ indoor grows under my belt just like to share knowledge.BTW the one reason why i say to much Nitrogen is because when your plant has to much its starts getting too green, the leaves start clawing,and the leaves get this waxy kinda glossy looking coat over the them. thats a red flag for over nuting with nitro.peace BIG YIELDS

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my only reply to this quote is that U need to take a cruise thru the CFL section, ppl are growing in speaker boxes, cpu towers and cases, cupboards, rubbermaid tubs etc..

with careful planning U can accomplish it.

oh and ps
the clawing came from genetics, it carried on to the seeds and clones as well...and "General Hydroponics Kabloom" is responsible for the wax-like surface. the NPK of that stuff is 2-45-28.. still think its too much nitrogen?

lol@ that guy saying plants should yeild more than 4oz each 12/12 from seed just bcuz I have a 400w HPS...

edit: IMO the wet weight is more important than the dry weight, simply bcuz if the cops kick in the door, they'll weigh whatever is cut down and prosecute someone according to THAT weight...they wont wait till it dries and cures...

good deal bro glad to see things r going good ,also good to see that your aware of all your plants and the possible probs i mentioned. yeah there isnt crap you can do about genetics lol . i just meant the stems and also meant no disrespect. they can weigh a bit when wet and no the N content seems good. As long as you know why they are a little shiny its cool if it doesnt seem to be doing anything harmful (just looks lil bit funny no worries though) also 4oz per plant from 12/12 with 400watt is retarded i def did not mean that much ,but yes a 1oz -2oz per plant is highly feasible with 400 watt. dont get me wrong i wasnt haten on the skillz just adding my 2 cents.trust me you got skillz which im sure you already know peace>

i just started growin pot..i was =very successful at my fist attempt...producing 9 brilliant healthy seedlings....but late rthen learned not to put them in the window...becuz my father threw them in the fire....i jus need sum help wit making a box

thats the shit...... strain is called "webs" or "duckfeet"

I feel ya man, I just had a accident where a CFL Shop light suspension gave away, killed half my crop.

Luckily I was home or just about all my crop woulda been gone, most of the ones that did survive had burnt leafs. Only 2 came out alive.

I just seen my reply was about what you said in the first few pages of your grow, so you probably have no idea what I was talking about. You commented on the post you made about when you got stoned and the vent fell on a plant. And had to reroot it.

spittn where u been homie?