Grow Legally Money Grab

OldMedUser said:

Don't want to be on the hit list if the gov't rules against home growing like early indications seem to be pointing to

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What indications? You are confusing med with rec. We just won the right to grow...they ain't taking that back. I totally understand flying under the radar. Being on a government list is not ideal, but it's not going to result in anyone coming for your plants. I think small rec grows will also be allowed when legalization finally happens, but that's just my guess. Legalization laws will be completely separate from MMJ and do not affect our right to grow, imo. If you have been successful at keeping off of HC's list, I'd just carry on, but if you decide to register, it doesn't make you a target for losing your garden.

I don't trust any of those f'ers any further than I can throw them.

The way you don't become a target is to keep your head down.

OldMedUser said:

I don't trust any of those f'ers any further than I can throw them.

The way you don't become a target is to keep your head down.

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I hear ya, I have a real trust issue with any kind of authority and I will not sign up to the new program. But I will say that 5 years of mmar growing has not made me a target, nor do I fear them coming for my plants.
The task force delivers it's report this week, I believe, so we'll get a glimpse of where rec legalization is going.

For me it is a no brainier, we have a program that allows me to grow, it gives me protection from police, that is all that matters to me. If you own your home and get caught growing in it, they can take your home, if you have a license they can no do shit.Not a hard decision for me. Seeing as you can lose your home and seeing as Harper min mandatory are still in place, I opt for the ACMPR.

If LIFT is signing 12mo scripts, then your golden. Fuck all the scammers go to LIFT. I just sent 2 buddy's to them, we will see what happens.

I honestly hope when they go legal that we don't get all pushed into the rec world. no mmj, just go buy from.... news report today saying lps setting up for 5$ grams lol or less

Boogie Brew Canada said:

I honestly hope when they go legal that we don't get all pushed into the rec world. no mmj, just go buy from.... news report today saying lps setting up for 5$ grams lol or less

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I do not see that happening because med users have special needs, like high THC, daily usage, constant supply.

VIANARCHRIS said:

I hear ya, I have a real trust issue with any kind of authority and I will not sign up to the new program. But I will say that 5 years of mmar growing has not made me a target, nor do I fear them coming for my plants.
The task force delivers it's report this week, I believe, so we'll get a glimpse of where rec legalization is going.

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I have a couple buddies that got their permits to grow under the MMAR many years back and neither of them have had any issues other than the panic over the time they were supposed to shut down and destroy any pot they had in storage. Then of course the mail fiasco which would have outed me to the whole town. Our postal lady is a well known gossip in the small town where I pick up my mail.

I'm waiting to hear what the task force comes out with and if it's half-assed reasonable then I may file to grow just to cover my ass should I get busted somehow. I've been growing here since we bought the house 13 years ago so it's unlikely I'll get busted any time soon but I could then use some space in my shop where it's more likely that visitors may see something and I can show that it's legal.

I may be paranoid but it's kept me from ever even being charged with any pot offense after almost 50 years of having pot of various quantities on me at almost all times.

OldMedUser said:

I have a couple buddies that got their permits to grow under the MMAR many years back and neither of them have had any issues other than the panic over the time they were supposed to shut down and destroy any pot they had in storage. Then of course the mail fiasco which would have outed me to the whole town. Our postal lady is a well known gossip in the small town where I pick up my mail.

I'm waiting to hear what the task force comes out with and if it's half-assed reasonable then I may file to grow just to cover my ass should I get busted somehow. I've been growing here since we bought the house 13 years ago so it's unlikely I'll get busted any time soon but I could then use some space in my shop where it's more likely that visitors may see something and I can show that it's legal.

I may be paranoid but it's kept me from ever even being charged with any pot offense after almost 50 years of having pot of various quantities on me at almost all times.

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Ditto, as much as I'd like to be legal and I could even expand out my current size (both myself and my GF qualify and our docs would sign off anytime we want them for 5g each). I'm waiting to see where the chips fall on both medical and recreational (not holding my breath on recreational btw). The HC bull shit threatening to out growers left a bad taste in my mouth having to register with a government & big pharma puppet agency that would even threaten to do that (they would have been f'd legally but that's besides the point). We all know what their stance is on medical MJ, they're only doing it because they have to, they don't believe or support it's benefits. Yet in the next breath they continually approve bull-shit pharma meds with ridiculously long lists of KNOWN side effects. So it's normal to go ahead and approve/distribute garbage with known side effects that can lead to even death in some cases, yet they won't support MJ, a harmless/natural plant because there's insufficient data? Can you say hypocrites? No one has issues with this? Maybe it's just us older guys who have been fighting the establishment our whole lives that can't reconcile falling in line when the government says "trust us" and throws us a bone with arbitrary restrictions and registration when we've been growing it all our lives. F*k them, it's legal or it's not and I'm not about to register with nor thank any government body that tries to appease us with flawed programs.

I paid the grow legal fee. They are doing a service. Fuck I spend 800$-1000$ a month on legal weed.

Fuck what is the 600 or whatever it cost me? That's like two weeks of pain medicine costs.

ChronicPainzz said:

I paid the grow legal fee. They are doing a service. Fuck I spend 800$-1000$ a month on legal weed.

Fuck what is the 600 or whatever it cost me? That's like two weeks of pain medicine costs.

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some folks have no choice but to pay.
some Dr's absolutely refuse to sign or refer so there's nothing else we can do.
the people who "demand" their Dr's do things must have great Dr's because i don't know a dr that will keep you as a patient around me. there's so few Dr's that they can pick and chose

I recommend anyone who wants to grow or is growing and is not legal, to get legal, the more people in the system sends a clear message, that Canadians want to GROW. If they have this system and only 100 ppl sign up then they can say hey not a lot of people, but if we had 100,000 people signed up to grow that would be "Huge"

Make Canada Great Again. 25 plant med garden's for all........

Boogie Brew Canada said:

booze is over priced and run by gov making millions! same with smokes, same with hookers(mob), strippers(mob), and the prescriptions.
cannabis is a 10billion $ industry in the usa in the last 3 yrs its has grown 5x.
now what makes you think Canada, while legalizing is just going to GIVE you stuff and not profit?????? wake up people, this is not getting cheaper & its not going away, grow illegally, get off line, shut your mouth, like you did in the 60s, 70s, 80s 90s, how many of you voted for JT when he said legalize??? 85% of you did. except hippy

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Didn't vote Trudeau. Obvious scum. I'm doing the opposite though. I'm taking this fight public.

OldMedUser said:

I have a couple buddies that got their permits to grow under the MMAR many years back and neither of them have had any issues other than the panic over the time they were supposed to shut down and destroy any pot they had in storage. Then of course the mail fiasco which would have outed me to the whole town. Our postal lady is a well known gossip in the small town where I pick up my mail.

I'm waiting to hear what the task force comes out with and if it's half-assed reasonable then I may file to grow just to cover my ass should I get busted somehow. I've been growing here since we bought the house 13 years ago so it's unlikely I'll get busted any time soon but I could then use some space in my shop where it's more likely that visitors may see something and I can show that it's legal.

I may be paranoid but it's kept me from ever even being charged with any pot offense after almost 50 years of having pot of various quantities on me at almost all times.

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It's not paranoia if the motherfuckers really are out to get you.

ttystikk said:

It's not paranoia if the motherfuckers really are out to get you.

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and they are

torontomeds said:

Make Canada Great Again. 25 plant med garden's for all........

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And legalize it for export!

ChronicPainzz said:

I paid the grow legal fee. They are doing a service. Fuck I spend 800$-1000$ a month on legal weed.

Fuck what is the 600 or whatever it cost me? That's like two weeks of pain medicine costs.

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When there is no other option I certainly can't fault someone that has taken the option I've refused to take as a matter of personal principle ever since the MMAR first came into effect.

Sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do when the other option is not working for you.

It's easy for us that have been flouting the law for years and have a constant supply of meds we've grown ourselves to look down on those that need those meds but don't have the means to produce their own. I'm feeling that it's a really wrong-headed attitude and I for one will not preach to any that have to go down that road or do without.

I will however strive to educate those that aren't aware of the history of pot prohibition and the coming corporate takeover of cannabis culture that is arising. So many of us have put in much time and effort fighting for the rights to use a god given plant to help us cope with whatever ails us.

We've not been fighting for legalization, but RE-legalization. Not just pot has been removed from the early pharmacopeia that listed hundreds of natural remedies that have since been thrust aside to enrich the corporate greed that pervades our society and in de facto rules the modern world, but everything that cannot be patented and profited from is demonized and deleted from the common vernacular.

Big Pharma doesn't want to cure your diseases. It wants to manage your diseases with it's cornucopia of toxic, chemically derived concoctions that they can exploit to the max.

If cannabis is ever restored to it's rightful place as a legitimate curative Big Pharma stands to lose billions and that is one of the main reasons that the DEA still hasn't removed cannabis from Schedule 1. My Canukistanian gov't still maintains the same stance on the same Hellth Canada website that is run by the same people in charge of handing out permits for medpot patients to grow their own pot!

It's a long and convoluted trail that the path to the freedom of the plant has taken and there will be many more twists and turns before it's end.

torontomeds said:

I recommend anyone who wants to grow or is growing and is not legal, to get legal, the more people in the system sends a clear message, that Canadians want to GROW. If they have this system and only 100 ppl sign up then they can say hey not a lot of people, but if we had 100,000 people signed up to grow that would be "Huge"

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I gotta say that you really make sense with that logic Torontomeds!

A lifetime, (almost 50 years of dodging the cops), while I held, sold, grew, transported/smuggled and smoked tons of pot has distrust and justifiable fear engraved into the DNA of my soul. When you have 50 kilos of pot in the trunk of your taxi and a 2G payoff things get really tense sometimes.

I've witnessed and been actively involved in politics for most of those 50 years of what is now a 62 year old existence and it keeps going from bad to worse.

There's none to be trusted. Either in the US realm or here at home.

Every time I have been fully honest with any gov't authority I've been screwed. I'm talking from when I was 18 and got laid off from a meat-packing plant and filed for unemployment insurance I'd paid for the last two years. Too long a story but eventually had a happy ending.

So many more encounters over the decades weren't so happy at the end.