Living The Dream
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we're talking about sunshine #4 soiless mix. not hydro.
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we're talking about sunshine #4 soiless mix. not hydro.
ihavealotofquestions
Active Member
This nigga was talkin' bout hydro throwin' some random number of pH for hydro bra. What will people do with false information?! They will FAIL.
Living The Dream
New Member
look dude...everyone is entitled to their opinion man. i know poly and he knows his shit. i he said 6.2 it's for a reason or he mistyped by accident. i agree, 5.8 for hydro has always been the sweetspot for me. just no need to get fired up about it. just an online forum man.
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
Im running a bunch of shit in sunshine 4 at 5.8 ph also as a test i have a bucket of sunshine 4 on a flood table thats set to 5.8
And everything is looking great! And i got a buddy that does drain to waist with sunshine and he swears by 5.8.
The fact is for soilless/hydro medium 5.8 to 6.3 is a ok range! So theres no right or rong to this debait, more personal prefference.
And everything is looking great! And i got a buddy that does drain to waist with sunshine and he swears by 5.8.
The fact is for soilless/hydro medium 5.8 to 6.3 is a ok range! So theres no right or rong to this debait, more personal prefference.
nuglets
New Member
i've got my sunshine around 6.3 to 6.4 i'm gonna try and lower it and see how the plants react. i've got a crop in flower right now that is half "perfect" but the other half has this light yellow tinge to them. not sure if it is the strain or not. gonna try 6.0 and see what that does. maybe not 5.8 but if i lower it to 6.0 and it should be 5.8 then it will start to look better and then i'll know.
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
That light yellowing is a sign of under feeding
nuglets
New Member
i tested that theory out. it's what uncle ben told me to do. i ran the nutes at 1250 and 1475 over the last 2 weeks. no change though. 1475 for week 3 is pushing it. even got a little burn. nothing major though. that's what makes me think it's the pH cause everything thing else is dialed in. the other strain in the room is rockin. they look so healthy it's crazy.
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
Wow i thought you were running alot lower! Yah your ph is got to be it nuglet
nuglets
New Member
do different strain like different pH levels? i though pH affected medium, not strain? could it be that pH affects one but not the other? i don't want to mess up the other half that are doing great. i've been doing a feed, water, feed, water schedule for about 2 weeks. i started flower at 950, then went to 1200, and just 2 days ago i fed them 1475. trying to test where the limits are but i'm not there yet. i haven't really gotten a burn yet. maybe 1 or 2 leaf tips on a plant. by the time i water it's back and going good.
i'm gonna post some pics in my journal tonight when the lights come on. i think what i'm gonna do is like a mini flush on this next straight water. should be tomorrow. i'm feeding 1.5 gallons every 3 days and they are just soaking it up. i'm gonna pH the water to 5.9 for the yellow plants and put maybe 1.75 to 2 gallons through. not a real flush but get some runoff and really soak them. then on the healthy plants i'm gonna just dip it down a little to 6.1 and see how they react to that. i mean they are so healthy but not "perfect" maybe.
what do you think about that hellraizer?
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
Well nug some strains can be more picky on were they like the ph, and were you keep your ppm at.
why i stay at 5.8 as a average no higher than 6.0 although 6.3 has been ok to! Just not a sweet spot
for me.
why i stay at 5.8 as a average no higher than 6.0 although 6.3 has been ok to! Just not a sweet spot
for me.
nuglets
New Member
yea...i'm gonna test out my little theory there and post some results in the journal. i'll keep you up to date man.
Brother Numsi
Well-Known Member
Nug,
I am in negotiation for some of my list now:
Quantity Part # Description Disc. % Unit Price Extended
5 201851.2 BLB-023 Bad Boy 4ft 2900k Fl Grow Lamp 0 % $7.90 $39.50
10 201851.1 BLB-021 Bad Boy 4ft 6500k Fl Grow Lamp 0 % $7.90 $79.00
1 201850.3 Quantum Badboy T5 4ft 12 Bulb Fixture 0 % $279.90 $279.90
1 201577-3 Lumatek LK6240D 600W 240V Dual E-Ballast 0 % $264.90 $264.90
2 201551-1 RD6AC Radiant 6in AC reflector 0 % $109.90 $219.80
2 601041 DX600MH 600w Digilux MH grow lamp 0 % $59.90 $119.80
2 601045 DX600HPS 600w Digilux HPS grow lamp 0 % $59.90 $119.80
1 221225 ART-Dne adjustable recycle timer 0 % $54.90 $54.90
1 221253.2 Intermatic HB112C 15A 240v HD Timer 0 % $14.90 $14.90
1 999990 Lumatek Ice Pack 0 % $8.90 $8.90
1 999990 Can RS 6 HO, 440 cfm 0 % $149.90 $149.90
1 199907.5 Phresh Filter 6" x 24" 550 CFM 0 % $119.90 $119.90
Sub Total: $1,471.20
Tax: $95.64
Total Quote: $1,566.84
He has yet to quote me a 4" HO Can Fan and I asked him to quote me the Can Fan filter. His FL bulb pricing was $3 higher than his web site and the Ice Pack doesn't work with that ballast...a little test I gave him. I can get the Hortilux bulbs for $15 higher than the Digilux...worth it or not? His pricing was pretty sharp. Any comments?
I am in negotiation for some of my list now:
Quantity Part # Description Disc. % Unit Price Extended
5 201851.2 BLB-023 Bad Boy 4ft 2900k Fl Grow Lamp 0 % $7.90 $39.50
10 201851.1 BLB-021 Bad Boy 4ft 6500k Fl Grow Lamp 0 % $7.90 $79.00
1 201850.3 Quantum Badboy T5 4ft 12 Bulb Fixture 0 % $279.90 $279.90
1 201577-3 Lumatek LK6240D 600W 240V Dual E-Ballast 0 % $264.90 $264.90
2 201551-1 RD6AC Radiant 6in AC reflector 0 % $109.90 $219.80
2 601041 DX600MH 600w Digilux MH grow lamp 0 % $59.90 $119.80
2 601045 DX600HPS 600w Digilux HPS grow lamp 0 % $59.90 $119.80
1 221225 ART-Dne adjustable recycle timer 0 % $54.90 $54.90
1 221253.2 Intermatic HB112C 15A 240v HD Timer 0 % $14.90 $14.90
1 999990 Lumatek Ice Pack 0 % $8.90 $8.90
1 999990 Can RS 6 HO, 440 cfm 0 % $149.90 $149.90
1 199907.5 Phresh Filter 6" x 24" 550 CFM 0 % $119.90 $119.90
Sub Total: $1,471.20
Tax: $95.64
Total Quote: $1,566.84
He has yet to quote me a 4" HO Can Fan and I asked him to quote me the Can Fan filter. His FL bulb pricing was $3 higher than his web site and the Ice Pack doesn't work with that ballast...a little test I gave him. I can get the Hortilux bulbs for $15 higher than the Digilux...worth it or not? His pricing was pretty sharp. Any comments?
nuglets
New Member
hey buddy. nice stuff you got there. gonna be like christmas at numsi's house. lol.
* couple little things. first, you don't need the ice pack. those lumateks run pretty cool. just keep it out of the room and you'll be fine. you can put a fan on it if you want. no need though.
* you don't need a HO fan for the 4". not even a CAN fan. save yourself some money. any decent brand will be fine. it's only for an intake. get an EcoPlus or Active Air fan if he has them. should be around half the price. that 4" CAN will run like $140. get one for aroun $80-$90 and save the money.
* those Radiant hoods only come with the Hydrofarm lamp cord. there are 2 industry standard lamp cords (Common and Hydrofarm). this is the cord that runs from the mogul socket on the hood to the ballast. i am almost positive that the dual Lumatek ballast only comes with a Common lamp cord. the other Lumateks come in either but the dual one is only in Common. double check but I am pretty sure. if so then get a blockbuster, yield master, or cool sun. all great hoods and should be a little cheaper. they are Sun Systems hoods and come with Common styles lamp cords.
* it's up to you but i would recommend the Hortilux Super HPS bulbs over the Digilux ones. a much broaer spectrum with more blue light in it. the money you'll save on hoods and the 4" fan will more than cover it.
hope that helps bud.
Brother Numsi
Well-Known Member
Fine tuned the order, thanks. This is still an expensive project....
ihavealotofquestions
Active Member
Don't be sillly, I'm just playin' dude. Anyways everyone runs a different pH, whatever suits them and their ladies
nuglets
New Member
yea, i'm gonna test out hellraizers theory. just ran about 2 gallons of pH 5.9 into each of my plants. we'll see if it helps fix the minor problems i'm having. nothing major going on though. go check out my grow journal. just posted like 12 pics. day 18 of flower.
Brother Numsi
Well-Known Member
Wow, they look great! You do good work
I got a local hydro store to match pricing so the project, as far as buying materials, started today with 2 Hortilux 600w HPS at $95.81 each including tax. It looks like I'll probably go with GrowLabs 145 for veg and GrowLabs 145L for flower unless the 240 or 290 make more sense. I may not get the Quantum 12...may use an 8 and 4 from someone else...a compromise for leaving him bloody on the floor after matching prices LOL.
Later Nugs.
I got a local hydro store to match pricing so the project, as far as buying materials, started today with 2 Hortilux 600w HPS at $95.81 each including tax. It looks like I'll probably go with GrowLabs 145 for veg and GrowLabs 145L for flower unless the 240 or 290 make more sense. I may not get the Quantum 12...may use an 8 and 4 from someone else...a compromise for leaving him bloody on the floor after matching prices LOL.
Later Nugs.
nuglets
New Member
Wow, they look great! You do good work
I got a local hydro store to match pricing so the project, as far as buying materials, started today with 2 Hortilux 600w HPS at $95.81 each including tax. It looks like I'll probably go with GrowLabs 145 for veg and GrowLabs 145L for flower unless the 240 or 290 make more sense. I may not get the Quantum 12...may use an 8 and 4 from someone else...a compromise for leaving him bloody on the floor after matching prices LOL.
Later Nugs.
nice! glad to see you are on your way. just remember...a little extra room in a tent is a good thing. you are gonna need an a/c in the flower tent like we talked about but you may find that you need a dehumidifier later on or just want some room to move around. i see no problem using an 8 and 4 t5 light. when the plants are smaller you could probably just get away with the 8 bulb and save some electricity.
Brother Numsi
Well-Known Member
Not my electricity LOL. It's a 3 way deal...a friend's garage, another friend looking after everything, and my $$$ to get it off the ground. I am just a bit concerned about the room in the flower tent and adding both an A/C and dehumidifier. The dehumidifier can be on cinder blocks or something else to raise it up so it can drain out thru a hose and be out of the way.
I don't see where there carry a 600 watt MH bulb other than a conversion bulb. I'm not in a hurry
Your journal rocks!!
nuglets
New Member
Not my electricity LOL. It's a 3 way deal...a friend's garage, another friend looking after everything, and my $$$ to get it off the ground. I am just a bit concerned about the room in the flower tent and adding both an A/C and dehumidifier. The dehumidifier can be on cinder blocks or something else to raise it up so it can drain out thru a hose and be out of the way.
I don't see where there carry a 600 watt MH bulb other than a conversion bulb. I'm not in a hurry
Your journal rocks!!
thanks man...got a little something going on here at the house in the garage as well. flipping from 2 8x8 tents to 3 4x8 tents in a month or so after this harvest. gonna be running a hydro system with 18 plants and a soil setup with 18. do 2 flower tents on a perpetual flip. one runs for 12 hours and then the other for 12 hours. offset them by a month so that i can get a harvest every 30 days. who knows...may end up having to hire someone to help me with all that work and mixing different nutes. lol
test it out with the a/c first. you might not need a dehumidifier. not sure what the environment is like where you live. the a//c will dehumidify but the problem is even an a/c that is perfectly sized won't run much during lights out cycle. and a/c's need to run in order to dehumidify. that's how guys get humidity spike during lights out and walk into their tent walls covered in condensation. not good. invites mold and mildew.
if you get a dehumidifier then drain that thing to a garabage can or reservoir with a lid. free filtered water. dehu runoff water is like 20ppm and really cold. just keep the dehu filter clean and you're good to go.
digilux makes 600w mh bulbs. conversion bulbs are fine too.
