Withthebiscuit
Well-Known Member
would i be able to seal my door id i have no vent in the closet area???
Grow Room Too HOT!
- Thread starter Withthebiscuit
- Start date
D.Gotti
Active Member
your first concern is EXHAUST. get the hot air out. i use a 6" duct fan that costs $20. heat rises so put the exhaust fan up high.
once you start pushing hot air out, fresh cooler air will be sucked in through your intake. intakes are more difficult to light-proof.
after looking at your grow room, i say you need to cut a 6 inch hole in the top of the door, and one in the bottom of the door.
you can mount your duct fan through the top of the door with a short duct facing up, then put a short duct through the bottom turned down or to the side to prevent light from entering.
closets are really bad places to have grows, unless you dont mind cutting holes in walls, ceilings, floors and doors. you can get hollow doors at home depot for $20 to put holes in if you dont want cut up the one you have.
for odor you can get ONA gel or OZUIUM spray cheap, both work great but you have to buy new block of gel every so often or a new can of spray.
the best bang for your buck over time is a single OZN-JR. which you could also mount to your door on the inside right near your exhaust.
once you start pushing hot air out, fresh cooler air will be sucked in through your intake. intakes are more difficult to light-proof.
after looking at your grow room, i say you need to cut a 6 inch hole in the top of the door, and one in the bottom of the door.
you can mount your duct fan through the top of the door with a short duct facing up, then put a short duct through the bottom turned down or to the side to prevent light from entering.
closets are really bad places to have grows, unless you dont mind cutting holes in walls, ceilings, floors and doors. you can get hollow doors at home depot for $20 to put holes in if you dont want cut up the one you have.
for odor you can get ONA gel or OZUIUM spray cheap, both work great but you have to buy new block of gel every so often or a new can of spray.
the best bang for your buck over time is a single OZN-JR. which you could also mount to your door on the inside right near your exhaust.
D.Gotti
Active Member
lol with no ventilation, how do you suppose a cool tube would help him? he would need a cool tube, ducting, and a fan. instead of just ducting and a fan.
start with basic ventilation, then if its still way too hot, get a cool tube. i dont use them. i have 600w bulbs and my plants are 6 inches away, max temp i see is 82 F and my probe is mounted 6 inches from the bulb, rarely ever over 80 F.
RockyMountainHighMedical
Member
I'm with most of the other comments. As for whether to have forced intake, without seeing more data on your setup, it's hard to know. I use grow tents i bought on eBay inside the garage. One of the best things about their design is they have a LOT of passive intake vents, like at least twice as much intake as exhaust. My exhaust goes through a homemade carbon scrubber and you really can't smell much IN the garage, let alone outside it... I would say the best is to have larger passive intakes (like 2 6" intakes for every 6" exhaust) and stronger exhaust fans. The big advantage here is that it makes it easier to fit a carbon scrubber, and every crack then becomes an intake asset rather than a smell leak problem.
D.Gotti
Active Member
i use tents and those passive intakes are on 3 of 4 sides so you can keep the opened intake away from any outside light. versatility.
forced intakes cause pressure and pressure causes heat. when you inhale the exhaust from a bong, you pull the slide out to create an intake. you dont put a fan blowing into the slide opening. he needs to have a basic working setup before tweaking/perfecting it.
a carbon filter requires a more powerful fan, BUT "NOT LARGER INTAKES". if more air can enter than you can exhaust then you have that smell leaking from cracks and pin holes. the opposite of what the previous guy said. you should be exhausting the same as intaking.
forced intakes cause pressure and pressure causes heat. when you inhale the exhaust from a bong, you pull the slide out to create an intake. you dont put a fan blowing into the slide opening. he needs to have a basic working setup before tweaking/perfecting it.
a carbon filter requires a more powerful fan, BUT "NOT LARGER INTAKES". if more air can enter than you can exhaust then you have that smell leaking from cracks and pin holes. the opposite of what the previous guy said. you should be exhausting the same as intaking.
BCBuddy420
Well-Known Member
OPTION A;
Step 1: Remove the door and hinges
Step 2: Get a skill saw and some 1/4 inch or more plywood sheeting, cut yourself a new door that is about an inch or two bigger than the frame, so it overlaps (paint it white or match it to your house wall color, remember it's temporary only while you grow.) Do not mount yet.
Step 3: line the inside of door with reflective material or white paint and use styrafoam or anything you can think of to rim the whole door and get a bit of a seal, so the space is air-tight.
Step 4: use a sabre saw/reciprocating saw and cut 2 6inch holes in the door, one at the top and one at the bottom.
Step 5: Mount door with some simple hinges and small screws, tiny holes are not a huge concern and can be fixed.
Step 6: Find a source of fresh air or just room air ( I recommend an open window sometimes of the day ) if that's all you can get and install your intake ducting into the bottom hole and seal with tuck tape (good tape) Also install your intake fan at this time. It be installed on any part of the ducting as long as it's sealed in for max suction. I would mount it into the hole you cut on that door.
Step 6: You must now run your exhaust from the top hole of the door, also install your exhaust fan onto the ducting at this time. Install it on the door, through the hole. You should be able to figure out how to secure it inside the hole.
Step 7: Mount or place an oscillating ( turning ) fan in the grow room to circulate the air in your space.
Step 8: Watch your thermometer drop way down in temperature, also this way humidity shouldn't be a problem either.
This is cheap and easy to do, should be around $100-150 US for materials and fans and should only take you 2-4 hours to do depending on handiness. Your thinking how do I swing the door open to get in and out of the room?? eh? haha. Leave your ducting loose outside the grow room so you can open and close it enough to do your gardening like this. Here's some crappy illustrations of outside your room and inside...
OPTION B;
You can always just cut a couple 6 inch holes in the walls and do your intake/outtake that way. If you cut the holes out intact you can save them and fit them back in and drywall mud/paint the area, fixing the visible damage.
Step 1: Cut two 6 inch holes in space, one up high, one low.
Step 2: Install intake coming from a source of your discretion, find the best possible source, it may require a large bit of ducting and a new vent outside. Or just from a crawlspace or anywhere tucked away. I suggest taping cheesecloth on the entry part of intake for a bit of filtration.
Step 3: Install your exhaust with fan on grow room end and have it run to place it can be dispelled safely using the 6inch ducting.
Step 4: U should use a carbon filter, both option A/B i fogot to mention this, these will eliminate odour,( if that may be a problem later on?
It gets mounted before anything on your exhaust line, then your inline fan then the length of ducting example: mount the can high then your inline fan right to it with ducting going out.
Step 5: Now mount/place your osc. fan and you'll be set. seal the door though, best you can.
Here's my setup. I never use closets much, I try to look for easy venting spaces with cool air close by from the outside and a decent place to exhaust. This is just my vegging room but check out my venting setup... it's got the 4 inch stuffed into 6 inch and taped secure, the fan is pushing in cool clean fresh air really well. And my exhaust fan is mounted right up high at the start of my ducting as you'll see. I don't carbon filter this room due to no need. I did all my exhaust.intake fans etc. for $120 US roughly and bout 3 hours. Other than these two ways? I just don't know how you'd pull it off. Here's my pics of my venting setups;
intake behind osc. fan
exhaust up high, 6inch inline fan all sealed up
a good view of how my intake is setup
~ BCbuddy
Step 1: Remove the door and hinges
Step 2: Get a skill saw and some 1/4 inch or more plywood sheeting, cut yourself a new door that is about an inch or two bigger than the frame, so it overlaps (paint it white or match it to your house wall color, remember it's temporary only while you grow.) Do not mount yet.
Step 3: line the inside of door with reflective material or white paint and use styrafoam or anything you can think of to rim the whole door and get a bit of a seal, so the space is air-tight.
Step 4: use a sabre saw/reciprocating saw and cut 2 6inch holes in the door, one at the top and one at the bottom.
Step 5: Mount door with some simple hinges and small screws, tiny holes are not a huge concern and can be fixed.
Step 6: Find a source of fresh air or just room air ( I recommend an open window sometimes of the day ) if that's all you can get and install your intake ducting into the bottom hole and seal with tuck tape (good tape) Also install your intake fan at this time. It be installed on any part of the ducting as long as it's sealed in for max suction. I would mount it into the hole you cut on that door.
Step 6: You must now run your exhaust from the top hole of the door, also install your exhaust fan onto the ducting at this time. Install it on the door, through the hole. You should be able to figure out how to secure it inside the hole.
Step 7: Mount or place an oscillating ( turning ) fan in the grow room to circulate the air in your space.
Step 8: Watch your thermometer drop way down in temperature, also this way humidity shouldn't be a problem either.
This is cheap and easy to do, should be around $100-150 US for materials and fans and should only take you 2-4 hours to do depending on handiness. Your thinking how do I swing the door open to get in and out of the room?? eh? haha. Leave your ducting loose outside the grow room so you can open and close it enough to do your gardening like this. Here's some crappy illustrations of outside your room and inside...
OPTION B;
You can always just cut a couple 6 inch holes in the walls and do your intake/outtake that way. If you cut the holes out intact you can save them and fit them back in and drywall mud/paint the area, fixing the visible damage.
Step 1: Cut two 6 inch holes in space, one up high, one low.
Step 2: Install intake coming from a source of your discretion, find the best possible source, it may require a large bit of ducting and a new vent outside. Or just from a crawlspace or anywhere tucked away. I suggest taping cheesecloth on the entry part of intake for a bit of filtration.
Step 3: Install your exhaust with fan on grow room end and have it run to place it can be dispelled safely using the 6inch ducting.
Step 4: U should use a carbon filter, both option A/B i fogot to mention this, these will eliminate odour,( if that may be a problem later on?
It gets mounted before anything on your exhaust line, then your inline fan then the length of ducting example: mount the can high then your inline fan right to it with ducting going out.Step 5: Now mount/place your osc. fan and you'll be set. seal the door though, best you can.
Here's my setup. I never use closets much, I try to look for easy venting spaces with cool air close by from the outside and a decent place to exhaust. This is just my vegging room but check out my venting setup... it's got the 4 inch stuffed into 6 inch and taped secure, the fan is pushing in cool clean fresh air really well. And my exhaust fan is mounted right up high at the start of my ducting as you'll see. I don't carbon filter this room due to no need. I did all my exhaust.intake fans etc. for $120 US roughly and bout 3 hours. Other than these two ways? I just don't know how you'd pull it off. Here's my pics of my venting setups;
intake behind osc. fan
exhaust up high, 6inch inline fan all sealed up
a good view of how my intake is setup
~ BCbuddy
D.Gotti
Active Member
the door idea i was saying is just like the first picture from bcbuddy. without a fan on the bottom and less ducting. bottom duct would just make a 90 degree turn down or to the side. the top duct would make a 90 degree turn up. this way the exhaust is blowing at the ceiling outside of the door and not down to the intake. also the intake if faced down wont be open for light to enter. plus a hollow door from home depot is smaller and lighter than plywood, you can get the right size for your doorway, and is about $20. the duct is $10 at HD and the fan is $20 at hd, thats $50 for the same thing only cleaner. you can reuse the hinges and door knob you have. ill draw a picture of exactly what i see if you would like. and the best thing is if you can pop it off the hinges and throw the other one back on and the ducts and fan are small and attached to the door for easy moving. take it with you when you move to a new place too.OPTION A;
Step 1: Remove the door and hinges
Step 2: Get a skill saw and some 1/4 inch or more plywood sheeting, cut yourself a new door that is about an inch or two bigger than the frame, so it overlaps (paint it white or match it to your house wall color, remember it's temporary only while you grow.) Do not mount yet.
Step 3: line the inside of door with reflective material or white paint and use styrafoam or anything you can think of to rim the whole door and get a bit of a seal, so the space is air-tight.
Step 4: use a sabre saw/reciprocating saw and cut 2 6inch holes in the door, one at the top and one at the bottom.
Step 5: Mount door with some simple hinges and small screws, tiny holes are not a huge concern and can be fixed.
Step 6: Find a source of fresh air or just room air ( I recommend an open window sometimes of the day ) if that's all you can get and install your intake ducting into the bottom hole and seal with tuck tape (good tape) Also install your intake fan at this time. It be installed on any part of the ducting as long as it's sealed in for max suction. I would mount it into the hole you cut on that door.
Step 6: You must now run your exhaust from the top hole of the door, also install your exhaust fan onto the ducting at this time. Install it on the door, through the hole. You should be able to figure out how to secure it inside the hole.
Step 7: Mount or place an oscillating ( turning ) fan in the grow room to circulate the air in your space.
Step 8: Watch your thermometer drop way down in temperature, also this way humidity shouldn't be a problem either.
This is cheap and easy to do, should be around $100-150 US for materials and fans and should only take you 2-4 hours to do depending on handiness. Your thinking how do I swing the door open to get in and out of the room?? eh? haha. Leave your ducting loose outside the grow room so you can open and close it enough to do your gardening like this. Here's some crappy illustrations of outside your room and inside...
OPTION B;
You can always just cut a couple 6 inch holes in the walls and do your intake/outtake that way. If you cut the holes out intact you can save them and fit them back in and drywall mud/paint the area, fixing the visible damage.
Step 1: Cut two 6 inch holes in space, one up high, one low.
Step 2: Install intake coming from a source of your discretion, find the best possible source, it may require a large bit of ducting and a new vent outside. Or just from a crawlspace or anywhere tucked away. I suggest taping cheesecloth on the entry part of intake for a bit of filtration.
Step 3: Install your exhaust with fan on grow room end and have it run to place it can be dispelled safely using the 6inch ducting.
Step 4: U should use a carbon filter, both option A/B i fogot to mention this, these will eliminate odour,( if that may be a problem later on?
Step 5: Now mount/place your osc. fan and you'll be set. seal the door though, best you can.
Here's my setup. I never use closets much, I try to look for easy venting spaces with cool air close by from the outside and a decent place to exhaust. This is just my vegging room but check out my venting setup... it's got the 4 inch stuffed into 6 inch and taped secure, the fan is pushing in cool clean fresh air really well. And my exhaust fan is mounted right up high at the start of my ducting as you'll see. I don't carbon filter this room due to no need. I did all my exhaust.intake fans etc. for $120 US roughly and bout 3 hours. Other than these two ways? I just don't know how you'd pull it off. Here's my pics of my venting setups;
intake behind osc. fan
exhaust up high, 6inch inline fan all sealed up
a good view of how my intake is setup
~ BCbuddy
